What in the hell is up with these stupid, ignorant, and non-english speaking Dirty South Rappers. Who is buying this stuff! Why does this stuff get so much radio airplay. I was a big supporter of rap in the 80's and 90's. What happened to the music. I miss the days of Whodini, LL, Run DMC, Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul, Dana Dane, Heavy D, Naughty by Nature, etc, the list goes on. These Black Minstral shows need to end. I'm tired of see Black People being portrayed this way on music videos. I'm tired of see people with rotten teeth and $100,000 grills. Back in the day you had quality rappers that didn't even get airplay on MTV, now it gets airplay on all radio. How did this happen? It's almost like this new rap has been promoted more just to put these negative images on TV. It used to be that Blacks were portrayed in a bad light on the nightly news. The sad thing is that these Ignorant Rappers are putting fuel on the fire. This new form of Rap is spreading ignorance and caos amongst today's youth. I'm talking about those kids who have no male role models in their life who try to immulate these so called Rappers. It's almost cool to be ignorant. These kids give more props to those who have been in jail verses those who go to college. This is really sad! Stop buying this ignorant rap and support artists who are positive and make a difference.

i agree with what you are saying. it's become really sad. it's such a cliche' and they is no more originality but the kids love it so it's not going anywhere unfortunately. i wish someone would seriously have an intervention with the rap community and explain why is this setting a bad example for kids and young adults. these people have so much power yet all they do is talk about hoes, and ice grilz.

I hate rap because of this. Absolutely hate it.

i have to remind myself that acts like roots and mos def are still around, though they're becoming more and more scarce.

It was fucked up long before these southern rappers came on the scene. They just came along and put a "country" edge to it.

I wonder sometimes if popular hip hop is the same as the conspiracy theory about crack.

Coon Theory, 2006 Edition.

Graycap23 said:

i don't get it but...

what is the deal with "coon" being the new "nigga" these days? i've heard kids say things like, "i was just coonin'," and i don't get the mentality. that shit is so disrespectful. where are these kids' parents at to teach them the basics?

sallysassalot said:

Step and fetch it.....1940/50's TV.

Graycap23 said:

are you intentionally speaking in riddles?

sallysassalot said:

No.....haven't u heard of Step and fetchit?

Graycap23 said:

nope. what is it?

i googled him. i gotcha now. unfortunately.

Since you brought it up, i'm curious how long it'll take for this...



...to become a faded memory. (http://www.latimes.com/en...es-entnews)


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theAudience said:

2 weaks.....(spelled properly)

When provocative work is drained of context, nuance, depth and perspective, then it can devolve. Especially when it comes to the mass marketing of black culture. One can argue that gangsta rap never had it to begin with, and that's debatable. But the reason that it has been able to flourish is because 1) black artists are getting paid handsomely for it; and 2) black, white, brown, and yellow people across the globe lap it up.

Hip-hop needs its Ornette Coleman, Sex Pistols, Clash, or Nirvana to break this cycle. Artists with the charisma and power to change the genre from within or jolt the genre into a sea change.

Graycap23 said:

That's too bad.


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namepeace said:

I agree.

The problem with these gangsta knuckleheads is that they'd probably attack those Artists for knockin' their hustle and not keepin' it real.





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sallysassalot said:

are you serious? people are saying that? that is so dispicable!

theAudience said:

Another problem is also that maybe the last truly great rapper was 2Pac. What was unique or interesting or challenging becomes stale & homogenous. Unfortunately the greats spawn a whole slew of crap in their wakes.

NDRU said:

Can't co-sign that at all.

Common
Mos Def
MF Doom
Q-Tip
Plugs 1 (Kelvin Mercer a/k/a Posdunous) and Plug 2 (Dave a/k/a Trugoy)
Guru
Ghostface
Nas
Jay-Z
Jeru The Damaja
Talib Kweli
OutKast
The Pharcyde

Just a few MCs and groups that have shone brightly since Tupac's untimely death.

namepeace said:

Okay, you're right good hip hop didn't die with Pac, but some of those guys are his contemporaries, not next generation. And really only Jay Z & Outkast are near his level in terms of impact.

But that's not really my point anyway. I just mean he was great and had a huge impact (maybe the biggest). And people tend to choose the wrong things to emulate in our great artists. It goes back to people thinking they should do heroin because Charlie Parker did.

dancerella said:

i should have mentioned that the kids i've heard say things like this have been black kids. i think its a new "black thing," and i can't figure out if that is more or less disturbing than white people saying it.

Well there alot of things that contribute to the lack of vision in Rap and alot of entertainment industry. Money would be one thing, the fact that labels lose money so much these days and the "suits" still make money, everyone is looking for a quick million/hit, so with that as your motive, creativity and vision take a back seat to what "sells". The thing with the whole "selling" thing, is that there isnt medium in music/rap these days, the playing field isnt level, rappers like the Roots and Mos Def will only get played if they got some big ass chick dacning behind them or if they fit the stereo type that has been created. I caught 3 seconds of this Eminem/50 cent/lloyd Banks video and i saw all the stereo types, Lloyd Banks in Jail,50 with a weapon, does this shit ever change. Now the argument will be "thats" a part of black culture, OK, but its the only one you see. Like comedian DL said the other day, i never a black man on NBC unless hes getting indicted for something. And MTV/BET can applaud themselves for playing "black" artists but do they look at the image that 90% have? I reall hate when people say "well it sells", so do drugs,so does porn,etc.. And if the industry did some research, this is why SALES are falling, its not all about downloading, its because people are finally getting a little tired of shit!

vainandy said:

Correct! IMO, 3 things happen that was the beginning of the end for mainstream rap:

1. When the major record labels decided to only take the "gangsta" style of rap seriously for the fastest increase in record sales.....meaning all the other styles of rap were excluded from FM Radio, MTV, & BET.

2. When 2pac & Biggie were murder (6 months apart) at the tailend of the east coast VS. west coast rivalry. Why? Because when the war was "over", the dirty south (with NO rules on rhyme skills) was right there to steal the mainstream spotlight and never look back.

3. Too much of & in the studio has forever place a typical hip-hop track at a slow tempo of 95 BPM or less!

TonyVanDam said:

4. Sampling! Rap was dead long before Biggie & 2Pac died. Biggie was making commercial shit at the end of his life with Diddy!

namepeace said:

I thought that was what Kanye West was doing, but people are getting distracted by his outbursts.

TonyVanDam said:

http://www.myspace.com/cinistercee

CinisterCee said:

He still isn't making any "new" music. He samples Diamonds Are Forever and calls it genius!

Sampling is hip-hop. It's all these other genres co-opting hip-hop that's made the technique played out.