The Peter Pan syndrome is the most clever excuse any lawyer ever made up. MANY of us were robbed of our childhoods and have not reverted to the ridiculous excuses Michael has. Michael needs therapy in the worst way and until he gets it his Peanut Butter ass needs to be kept from kids period. [Edited 11/29/06 15:44pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The Peter Pan syndrome is the most clever excuse any lawyer ever made up. MANY of us were robbed of our childhoods and have not reverted to the ridiculous excuses Michael has. Michael needs therapy in the worst way and until he gets it his Peanut Butter ass needs to be kept from kids period.
Hey,leave peanut butter out of this. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Adisa said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The Peter Pan syndrome is the most clever excuse any lawyer ever made up. MANY of us were robbed of our childhoods and have not reverted to the ridiculous excuses Michael has. Michael needs therapy in the worst way and until he gets it his Peanut Butter ass needs to be kept from kids period.
Hey,leave peanut butter out of this. Peter Pan Peanut Butter sucks anyway 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Adisa said: Hey,leave peanut butter out of this. Peter Pan Peanut Butter sucks anyway | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Adisa said: Hey,leave peanut butter out of this. Peter Pan Peanut Butter sucks anyway JIF rocks! I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Interesting article.
I don't know about Michael I really don't But what I've really observed is that fame, fortune, and power all push emotionally fragile people over the edge. And if that person is young from a dysfunctinal family, then they the fall is even more dramatic. I dunno. I think I would like fortune for the security of my friends and family. I don't want a huge fortune.. just enough to set-up my family for life and be able to take care of my friends. Then I'd give the rest away to charity. I just don't think people need billions or even millions.. But I sure as HELL wouldn't want fame.. Power well.. no.. But I guess power comes from money?? But power corrupts, ya know? I think people have to be very, very secure in their own skin to handle huge success like that. People always think failure is what we need to handle, but sometimes success.. like Michael and other have achieved is even more debilitating. And Michael had to support his family... like a lot of other young stars. So I would imagine no one could tell him anything. I just think it must be very difficult. | |
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Anyway, "Childhood" is from like 1995, so there's a chance he has moved on from that. | |
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before you judge me... try hard to love me | |
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TotalAlisa said: before you judge me... try hard to love me
that fool needs to take that shit and ram it up his fisher-price ass already. | |
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TotalAlisa said: before you judge me... try hard to love me
How hard?
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: TotalAlisa said: before you judge me... try hard to love me
How hard?
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The Peter Pan syndrome is the most clever excuse any lawyer ever made up. MANY of us were robbed of our childhoods and have not reverted to the ridiculous excuses Michael has.
And it is weird how it is spun to me, it's like... that only ADDS to the likelihood of repeating abusive relationships learned at a formative point in his life. | |
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CinisterCee said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The Peter Pan syndrome is the most clever excuse any lawyer ever made up. MANY of us were robbed of our childhoods and have not reverted to the ridiculous excuses Michael has.
And it is weird how it is spun to me, it's like... that only ADDS to the likelihood of repeating abusive relationships learned at a formative point in his life. Especially if he's locked in without the ability to grow up. If his beef is his childhood and he's locked into a state of childhood, it doesn't take a genius to realize we're sitting in a shitmine full of golden turds. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: CinisterCee said: And it is weird how it is spun to me, it's like... that only ADDS to the likelihood of repeating abusive relationships learned at a formative point in his life. Especially if he's locked in without the ability to grow up. If his beef is his childhood and he's locked into a state of childhood, it doesn't take a genius to realize we're sitting in a shitmine full of golden turds. haha I don't even know what that means but I think I get the gist of where you were going with that. | |
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It's kind of "Disney-ish. When ducks and mice dance and flowers and s*** pop up and kids go "Mommy, look!"
http://www.youtube.com/wa...4SY829uTKc http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search= http://www.michaeljackson...lover.com/ "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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before you judge my try hard to love me? wtf?
so...is this pic proof that when mj dreams of his childhood he actually dreams of a black kid? Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: before you judge my try hard to love me? wtf?
so...is this pic proof that when mj dreams of his childhood he actually dreams of a black kid? and the fisher price comment ....wrong... and....well...ya'll are so wrong.... But anyway.....if his childhood was messed up, get some therapy and move on. NO MORE excuses for a 50 year old man. Sorry.....times up. Someone needs to beat his ass....someone get Joe on the phone... | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: I just don't buy it. Childlike, my ass! If you want to know the truth, I think MJ is a Master Manipulator. His actions have been very shrewed, very cold and very calculating, extremely unchildlike.
Think about it... The marriage to Lisa Marie: That took some serious thought because at the time if MJ had married any other woman on the planet, the press would have crucified her. MJ had to think long and hard on this one, "Who can I get to marry me that the press won't fuck with?" "Oh, I know...and I know HOW to MAKE her do it too!" I know damn well y'all didn't buy that "they married out of love" bullshit! He surrounds himself with children and families that have problems and issues. Never happy, healthy, children that are more than likely to tell if there are any wrongdoings going on. Not very Peterpan like...Peterpan loved ALL children. I think MJ uses that lost childhood bit as a guilt trip to make people feel sorry for him because they know he didn't have a childhood in the sense of getting to be a kid and being able to do the things that normal kids did and he's been using that to his advantage. [Edited 11/29/06 7:26am] I don´t even bother to react to some comments, but I gotta say at least something. Lisa Marie and even Priscilla said that MJ wanted to hook up with her years before the marriage. Lisa even said that there were going out together BEFORE the allegations. So now matter how manipulative it may seem to you, there are signs coming from people who don´t always say the nicest things about him implying differently. And how could he use her to improve his image after child-abuse allegations when at the time he contacted her, there weren´t allegations yet.It´s also interesting how people point out to how desperately they were trying to prove to the public how the love is real, but I don´t think they did that much. They never made a reality show ala Nick and Jessica or Britney and Kevin, they didn´t invite press to their wedding, their were hardly trying to capitalize on their marriage as David and Victoria Beckham. I don´t know why their one kiss and that You are not alone video caused so much publicity when you compare it to what Pamela and Tommy were doing in public. Even when you count the occassions at which Lisa and Mike showed together in the public there are so few of them, if you consider that their marriege lasted for 2 years. I believe there are more pictures of Lisa and Nick together than of her and Mike and they were married only for 3 months. Mj doesn´t surround himself only with sick kids and the ones with issues. They´re only the ones bringing the most attention to themselves, maybe cause they´re kids with issues. Remember that back in 1993, HUNDREDS of kids were questioned by the police, none of them said anything. I don´t think that ALL of them were sick and with issues. But he also hangs out with adults as well, we could see that as well with Brett Ratner and others in Home movies. I am not saying that Mike is not eccentric in any way, but I think that we only see that eccentricity, because that´s the only thing the press is interested in informing us about. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: SexyBeautifulOne said: I just don't buy it. Childlike, my ass! If you want to know the truth, I think MJ is a Master Manipulator. His actions have been very shrewed, very cold and very calculating, extremely unchildlike.
Think about it... The marriage to Lisa Marie: That took some serious thought because at the time if MJ had married any other woman on the planet, the press would have crucified her. MJ had to think long and hard on this one, "Who can I get to marry me that the press won't fuck with?" "Oh, I know...and I know HOW to MAKE her do it too!" I know damn well y'all didn't buy that "they married out of love" bullshit! He surrounds himself with children and families that have problems and issues. Never happy, healthy, children that are more than likely to tell if there are any wrongdoings going on. Not very Peterpan like...Peterpan loved ALL children. I think MJ uses that lost childhood bit as a guilt trip to make people feel sorry for him because they know he didn't have a childhood in the sense of getting to be a kid and being able to do the things that normal kids did and he's been using that to his advantage. [Edited 11/29/06 7:26am] I don´t even bother to react to some comments, but I gotta say at least something. Lisa Marie and even Priscilla said that MJ wanted to hook up with her years before the marriage. Lisa even said that there were going out together BEFORE the allegations. So now matter how manipulative it may seem to you, there are signs coming from people who don´t always say the nicest things about him implying differently. And how could he use her to improve his image after child-abuse allegations when at the time he contacted her, there weren´t allegations yet.It´s also interesting how people point out to how desperately they were trying to prove to the public how the love is real, but I don´t think they did that much. They never made a reality show ala Nick and Jessica or Britney and Kevin, they didn´t invite press to their wedding, their were hardly trying to capitalize on their marriage as David and Victoria Beckham. I don´t know why their one kiss and that You are not alone video caused so much publicity when you compare it to what Pamela and Tommy were doing in public. Even when you count the occassions at which Lisa and Mike showed together in the public there are so few of them, if you consider that their marriege lasted for 2 years. I believe there are more pictures of Lisa and Nick together than of her and Mike and they were married only for 3 months. Mj doesn´t surround himself only with sick kids and the ones with issues. They´re only the ones bringing the most attention to themselves, maybe cause they´re kids with issues. Remember that back in 1993, HUNDREDS of kids were questioned by the police, none of them said anything. I don´t think that ALL of them were sick and with issues. But he also hangs out with adults as well, we could see that as well with Brett Ratner and others in Home movies. I am not saying that Mike is not eccentric in any way, but I think that we only see that eccentricity, because that´s the only thing the press is interested in informing us about.
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: TommyRoss said: I thought the song was cute and sad at first. Now I just think he smells like little boys' booty holes.
The org is becoming very tasteless. | |
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dag said: SexyBeautifulOne said: I just don't buy it. Childlike, my ass! If you want to know the truth, I think MJ is a Master Manipulator. His actions have been very shrewed, very cold and very calculating, extremely unchildlike.
Think about it... The marriage to Lisa Marie: That took some serious thought because at the time if MJ had married any other woman on the planet, the press would have crucified her. MJ had to think long and hard on this one, "Who can I get to marry me that the press won't fuck with?" "Oh, I know...and I know HOW to MAKE her do it too!" I know damn well y'all didn't buy that "they married out of love" bullshit! He surrounds himself with children and families that have problems and issues. Never happy, healthy, children that are more than likely to tell if there are any wrongdoings going on. Not very Peterpan like...Peterpan loved ALL children. I think MJ uses that lost childhood bit as a guilt trip to make people feel sorry for him because they know he didn't have a childhood in the sense of getting to be a kid and being able to do the things that normal kids did and he's been using that to his advantage. [Edited 11/29/06 7:26am] I don´t even bother to react to some comments, but I gotta say at least something. Lisa Marie and even Priscilla said that MJ wanted to hook up with her years before the marriage. Lisa even said that there were going out together BEFORE the allegations. So now matter how manipulative it may seem to you, there are signs coming from people who don´t always say the nicest things about him implying differently. And how could he use her to improve his image after child-abuse allegations when at the time he contacted her, there weren´t allegations yet.It´s also interesting how people point out to how desperately they were trying to prove to the public how the love is real, but I don´t think they did that much. They never made a reality show ala Nick and Jessica or Britney and Kevin, they didn´t invite press to their wedding, their were hardly trying to capitalize on their marriage as David and Victoria Beckham. I don´t know why their one kiss and that You are not alone video caused so much publicity when you compare it to what Pamela and Tommy were doing in public. Even when you count the occassions at which Lisa and Mike showed together in the public there are so few of them, if you consider that their marriege lasted for 2 years. I believe there are more pictures of Lisa and Nick together than of her and Mike and they were married only for 3 months. Mj doesn´t surround himself only with sick kids and the ones with issues. They´re only the ones bringing the most attention to themselves, maybe cause they´re kids with issues. Remember that back in 1993, HUNDREDS of kids were questioned by the police, none of them said anything. I don´t think that ALL of them were sick and with issues. But he also hangs out with adults as well, we could see that as well with Brett Ratner and others in Home movies. I am not saying that Mike is not eccentric in any way, but I think that we only see that eccentricity, because that´s the only thing the press is interested in informing us about. I have to agree with you here, to a certain extent. I think the problem people had with his marriage to LMP, is not why Michael married Lisa Marie, BUT why did she marry him.. No one forced Lisa to Marry him, nor was she some Heather Mill, gold-digger so why did she marry someone who was a suspected child abuser, when she had children herself.? People try to come up with all kind of excuses for her, but they don't wash. Another thing, Peeps don't want to believe that they had a sex life, even if MJ is a Pedo it doesn't mean he can't have sex with a woman. Infact most Pedos are hetrosexual married men with children of their own. And from what I know he had first met Lisa when he was 15, and well before any allegations they were FRIENDS, so I don't think he sat down after the first set of allegations and pressurized and forced someone who didn't know him to marry him, just because of the allegations. The allegations obviously played a part in the marriage, but they were probably having some kind of relationship in the first place. | |
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whatsgoingon said: dag said: I don´t even bother to react to some comments, but I gotta say at least something. Lisa Marie and even Priscilla said that MJ wanted to hook up with her years before the marriage. Lisa even said that there were going out together BEFORE the allegations. So now matter how manipulative it may seem to you, there are signs coming from people who don´t always say the nicest things about him implying differently. And how could he use her to improve his image after child-abuse allegations when at the time he contacted her, there weren´t allegations yet.It´s also interesting how people point out to how desperately they were trying to prove to the public how the love is real, but I don´t think they did that much. They never made a reality show ala Nick and Jessica or Britney and Kevin, they didn´t invite press to their wedding, their were hardly trying to capitalize on their marriage as David and Victoria Beckham. I don´t know why their one kiss and that You are not alone video caused so much publicity when you compare it to what Pamela and Tommy were doing in public. Even when you count the occassions at which Lisa and Mike showed together in the public there are so few of them, if you consider that their marriege lasted for 2 years. I believe there are more pictures of Lisa and Nick together than of her and Mike and they were married only for 3 months. Mj doesn´t surround himself only with sick kids and the ones with issues. They´re only the ones bringing the most attention to themselves, maybe cause they´re kids with issues. Remember that back in 1993, HUNDREDS of kids were questioned by the police, none of them said anything. I don´t think that ALL of them were sick and with issues. But he also hangs out with adults as well, we could see that as well with Brett Ratner and others in Home movies. I am not saying that Mike is not eccentric in any way, but I think that we only see that eccentricity, because that´s the only thing the press is interested in informing us about. I have to agree with you here, to a certain extent. I think the problem people had with his marriage to LMP, is not why Michael married Lisa Marie, BUT why did she marry him.. No one forced Lisa to Marry him, nor was she some Heather Mill, gold-digger so why did she marry someone who was a suspected child abuser, when she had children herself.? People try to come up with all kind of excuses for her, but they don't wash. Another thing, Peeps don't want to believe that they had a sex life, even if MJ is a Pedo it doesn't mean he can't have sex with a woman. Infact most Pedos are hetrosexual married men with children of their own. And from what I know he had first met Lisa when he was 15, and well before any allegations they were FRIENDS, so I don't think he sat down after the first set of allegations and pressurized and forced someone who didn't know him to marry him, just because of the allegations. The allegations obviously played a part in the marriage, but they were probably having some kind of relationship in the first place. Exactly. Of course that once married, Mike might have used it a little bit to improve the image, but I don´t think that was the main agenda for him. I don´t think that would be the very reason for their relationship. Interestingly enough Lisa once admitted that there might be something to that "daugher looking for someone like her father" psychological theory. And when you think about it, who else is closer to Elvis than Mike? I mean, they are both childlike, same weird taste for clothes, love for animals (i even heard that Elvis had a chimp too), caring for others etc. And it does not seem accidential to me that their relationship really kicked off during MJ´s drug addiction. And for MJ on the other side, for the first time in his life he may have felt that someone REALLY cares about him because why would she have married a suspect child-molester at that time. She didn´t even need his money, she was famous enough. Their marriage is not suprising for me, when I think about it. SexyBeautifulOne - don´t worry, I didn´t expect understanding. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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CinisterCee said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Especially if he's locked in without the ability to grow up. If his beef is his childhood and he's locked into a state of childhood, it doesn't take a genius to realize we're sitting in a shitmine full of golden turds. haha I don't even know what that means but I think I get the gist of where you were going with that. No matter how glossy and beautiful those nuggets have been painted to look, at the end of the day you're still dealing with shit . [Edited 11/30/06 10:45am] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: TotalAlisa said: before you judge me... try hard to love me
that fool needs to take that shit and ram it up his fisher-price ass already. | |
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dag said: whatsgoingon said: I have to agree with you here, to a certain extent. I think the problem people had with his marriage to LMP, is not why Michael married Lisa Marie, BUT why did she marry him.. No one forced Lisa to Marry him, nor was she some Heather Mill, gold-digger so why did she marry someone who was a suspected child abuser, when she had children herself.? People try to come up with all kind of excuses for her, but they don't wash. Another thing, Peeps don't want to believe that they had a sex life, even if MJ is a Pedo it doesn't mean he can't have sex with a woman. Infact most Pedos are hetrosexual married men with children of their own. And from what I know he had first met Lisa when he was 15, and well before any allegations they were FRIENDS, so I don't think he sat down after the first set of allegations and pressurized and forced someone who didn't know him to marry him, just because of the allegations. The allegations obviously played a part in the marriage, but they were probably having some kind of relationship in the first place. Exactly. Of course that once married, Mike might have used it a little bit to improve the image, but I don´t think that was the main agenda for him. I don´t think that would be the very reason for their relationship. Interestingly enough Lisa once admitted that there might be something to that "daugher looking for someone like her father" psychological theory. And when you think about it, who else is closer to Elvis than Mike? I mean, they are both childlike, same weird taste for clothes, love for animals (i even heard that Elvis had a chimp too), caring for others etc. And it does not seem accidential to me that their relationship really kicked off during MJ´s drug addiction. And for MJ on the other side, for the first time in his life he may have felt that someone REALLY cares about him because why would she have married a suspect child-molester at that time. She didn´t even need his money, she was famous enough. Their marriage is not suprising for me, when I think about it. SexyBeautifulOne - don´t worry, I didn´t expect understanding. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...dissonance | |
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BT11 said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: The org is becoming very tasteless. I'd say it's becoming humorless, but to each his own. | |
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What's MJ talking about? Have we seen his childhood?
S***, we financed his childhood. We bought the little blue 45's. There was no Limewire then you HAD to buy em. (*Disclaimer don't download or file share go to itunes or your local record store.) We ran up the electric bill waiting to see The J5 on Soul Train. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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