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Thread started 11/28/06 1:55pm

VoicesCarry

Janet's 3rd single is.........

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Reply #1 posted 11/28/06 1:58pm

illimack

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I got the CD but this song title is not ringing a bell.....which is not a good thing. What song number is it? I was hoping for Daybreak or Enjoy. Or even Take Good care.
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Reply #2 posted 11/28/06 1:59pm

VoicesCarry

illimack said:

I got the CD but this song title is not ringing a bell.....which is not a good thing. What song number is it? I was hoping for Daybreak or Enjoy. Or even Take Good care.


Enjoy will be the fourth US single and the third international single, and has already been promo'd in Japan. With U is track 8.
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Reply #3 posted 11/28/06 2:02pm

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who gets to pick these singles? are they purposefully fucking this already mediocre record?

obviously urban mainstream and urban contemporary are NOT working. it is so glaringly obvious that what janet needs to do is remind her almost former fans (those who have not bought one of her records for a few years now) why they liked her in the first place. enjoy or daybreak are the only possible shots at saving this record.

i think with u is a good song. i just don't think with u is gonna get any interest from people who haven't already shown interest in the record.
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Reply #4 posted 11/28/06 2:04pm

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VoicesCarry said:

illimack said:

I got the CD but this song title is not ringing a bell.....which is not a good thing. What song number is it? I was hoping for Daybreak or Enjoy. Or even Take Good care.


Enjoy will be the fourth US single and the third international single, and has already been promo'd in Japan. With U is track 8.


No wonder is doesn't ring a bell. I listen to So Exited and the song after, then I skip to the Jam and Lewis songs. lol
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Reply #5 posted 11/28/06 2:05pm

VoicesCarry

sallysassalot said:

who gets to pick these singles? are they purposefully fucking this already mediocre record?

obviously urban mainstream and urban contemporary are NOT working. it is so glaringly obvious that what janet needs to do is remind her almost former fans (those who have not bought one of her records for a few years now) why they liked her in the first place. enjoy or daybreak are the only possible shots at saving this record.

i think with u is a good song. i just don't think with u is gonna get any interest from people who haven't already shown interest in the record.
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Single choices have been horrid. I think With U is not a terrible choice at this point as ballads tend to do better in the winter months and of the singles so far has the best chance at pop radio, which is where she needs to gain ground. Urban will support her no matter what. I agree they should be releasing it to all formats at once, though. Enjoy, to put it quite simply, is probably too melodic for US radio lol

In other news, Janet's chart placement skyrocketed this week for some reason:

-- 33 JANET JACKSON VIRGIN 52,596
20 Y.O.
- with 71% reported
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Reply #6 posted 11/28/06 2:09pm

sallysassalot

VoicesCarry said:

sallysassalot said:

who gets to pick these singles? are they purposefully fucking this already mediocre record?

obviously urban mainstream and urban contemporary are NOT working. it is so glaringly obvious that what janet needs to do is remind her almost former fans (those who have not bought one of her records for a few years now) why they liked her in the first place. enjoy or daybreak are the only possible shots at saving this record.

i think with u is a good song. i just don't think with u is gonna get any interest from people who haven't already shown interest in the record.
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Single choices have been horrid. I think With U is not a terrible choice at this point as ballads tend to do better in the winter months and of the singles so far has the best chance at pop radio, which is where she needs to gain ground. Urban will support her no matter what. I agree they should be releasing it to all formats at once, though. Enjoy, to put it quite simply, is probably too melodic for US radio lol

i really think enjoy would do well. its easily one of the best tracks she's recorded in years and is undeniably infectious (but not like an std or anything wink). it would do good on pop and urban stations and let's face it, dupri has succeeded at one thing and that is excluding a wider audience from janet's music.
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Reply #7 posted 11/28/06 2:09pm

sallysassalot

maybe the chart boom is due to black friday sales and the ellen performance? was she on the music awards show that just aired (american, i think)?
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Reply #8 posted 11/28/06 2:11pm

VoicesCarry

sallysassalot said:

maybe the chart boom is due to black friday sales and the ellen performance? was she on the music awards show that just aired (american, i think)?


No. She will be opening the Billboard Awards on December 4th, though.

Yes, black Friday usually leads to a spike in sales but this is what, 300+%? Odd. No one was expecting it.
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Reply #9 posted 11/28/06 2:11pm

MikeMatronik

I think that "Do It 2 Me" would be a better choice...but I love "With U".

I'm glad we are getting "Enjoy". With a good video, it will do well here in Europe!

This sales boost is great...20 YO is a great album and deserves more recognition!
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Reply #10 posted 11/28/06 2:12pm

VoicesCarry

sallysassalot said:

VoicesCarry said:



Single choices have been horrid. I think With U is not a terrible choice at this point as ballads tend to do better in the winter months and of the singles so far has the best chance at pop radio, which is where she needs to gain ground. Urban will support her no matter what. I agree they should be releasing it to all formats at once, though. Enjoy, to put it quite simply, is probably too melodic for US radio lol

i really think enjoy would do well. its easily one of the best tracks she's recorded in years and is undeniably infectious (but not like an std or anything wink). it would do good on pop and urban stations and let's face it, dupri has succeeded at one thing and that is excluding a wider audience from janet's music.


Yes, Enjoy is fabulous. I tend to think it would have done incredibly well if it were released in 1995. Today I'm not so sure. I mean look at what is a hit today.

I had actually hoped we would get Show Me as a single - I love that track and its cheap synths. Catchy stuff. The chant is great.

I do not think pop stations will give her a chance for another two years or so, though. Same thing happened with Mariah.
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Reply #11 posted 11/28/06 2:15pm

CinisterCee

Y'all should be happy, so many people told me "With U" was their cut, also the choice ballad when I was saying "Take Care" was the cut.

"Daybreak" could do great on pop or urban radio.
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Reply #12 posted 11/28/06 2:15pm

sallysassalot

VoicesCarry said:

sallysassalot said:

maybe the chart boom is due to black friday sales and the ellen performance? was she on the music awards show that just aired (american, i think)?


No. She will be opening the Billboard Awards on December 4th, though.

Yes, black Friday usually leads to a spike in sales but this is what, 300+%? Odd. No one was expecting it.

if virgin is smart (or janet's people, whomever they may be), they should buy up a bunch and get the record back in the top ten before the release of a new single. if the new single generates interest, it could help breathe life into the record. since it would already be in the top 10, the record's visibility would be much better.

though i haven't listened to the record in over a month (my itunes lists the 20th of october as the last date any of 20 YO's songs were played), i'd still like to see her salvage it before a tour begins.
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Reply #13 posted 11/28/06 2:16pm

MikeMatronik

CinisterCee said:

Y'all should be happy, so many people told me "With U" was their cut, also the choice ballad when I was saying "Take Care" was the cut.

"Daybreak" could do great on pop or urban radio.


I remember that... cool
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Reply #14 posted 11/28/06 2:17pm

sallysassalot

CinisterCee said:

Y'all should be happy, so many people told me "With U" was their cut, also the choice ballad when I was saying "Take Care" was the cut.

"Daybreak" could do great on pop or urban radio.

lovin' that avatar!
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Reply #15 posted 11/28/06 2:18pm

MikeMatronik

By the way...how did the remixes from 20 YO do on the dancefloor charts? Janet is usually very sucessfull there.

Personally I did not like the Junior Vasquez's remixes of So Excited
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Reply #16 posted 11/28/06 2:19pm

CinisterCee

sallysassalot said:

CinisterCee said:

Y'all should be happy, so many people told me "With U" was their cut, also the choice ballad when I was saying "Take Care" was the cut.

"Daybreak" could do great on pop or urban radio.

lovin' that avatar!


Thankx - I got new glasses! geek
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Reply #17 posted 11/28/06 2:19pm

Graycap23

This cd is DOA.
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Reply #18 posted 11/28/06 2:20pm

sallysassalot

MikeMatronik said:

By the way...how did the remixes from 20 YO do on the dancefloor charts? Janet is usually very sucessfull there.

Personally I did not like the Junior Vasquez's remixes of So Excited

i only heard so excited twice in the clubs but, to be fair, i only went out four times since september.
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Reply #19 posted 11/28/06 2:20pm

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

By the way...how did the remixes from 20 YO do on the dancefloor charts? Janet is usually very sucessfull there.

Personally I did not like the Junior Vasquez's remixes of So Excited


Call On Me peaked at #2 for a few weeks.

So Excited has moved 51-37-22-14-?
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Reply #20 posted 11/28/06 2:21pm

VoicesCarry

CinisterCee said:

sallysassalot said:


lovin' that avatar!


Thankx - I got new glasses! geek


They are great! nod
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Reply #21 posted 11/28/06 2:23pm

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:

By the way...how did the remixes from 20 YO do on the dancefloor charts? Janet is usually very sucessfull there.

Personally I did not like the Junior Vasquez's remixes of So Excited


Call On Me peaked at #2 for a few weeks.

So Excited has moved 51-37-22-14-?


I think the remixes from the Damita Jo era were better than these recent ones...

Hope "With U" gets better remixes
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Reply #22 posted 11/28/06 2:24pm

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



Call On Me peaked at #2 for a few weeks.

So Excited has moved 51-37-22-14-?


I think the remixes from the Damita Jo era were better than these recent ones...

Hope "With U" gets better remixes


All the UNRELEASED DJ-era mixes were way better nod
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Reply #23 posted 11/28/06 2:25pm

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good choice! I agree that though "enjoy' is a great song, it wouldn't play much on the radio!
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Reply #24 posted 11/28/06 2:27pm

CinisterCee

OK I have to say, at 5 minutes, "With U" needs a radio edit.
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Reply #25 posted 11/28/06 2:28pm

CinisterCee

go2theMax said:

good choice! I agree that though "enjoy' is a great song, it wouldn't play much on the radio!


I agree.
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Reply #26 posted 11/28/06 2:28pm

VoicesCarry

CinisterCee said:

OK I have to say, at 5 minutes, "With U" needs a radio edit.


Oh, that will happen lol I'm sure it will be shortened to about 3:30. They will probably eliminate the bridge, which is my least favorite part of the song.
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Reply #27 posted 11/28/06 2:28pm

CinisterCee

go2theMax said:

good choice! I agree that though "enjoy' is a great song, it wouldn't play much on the radio!


How do you feel about "Daybreak"?
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Reply #28 posted 11/28/06 2:30pm

CinisterCee

VoicesCarry said:

CinisterCee said:

OK I have to say, at 5 minutes, "With U" needs a radio edit.


Oh, that will happen lol I'm sure it will be shortened to about 3:30. They will probably eliminate the bridge, which is my least favorite part of the song.


nod The sooner the strings come in, the better.
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Reply #29 posted 11/28/06 2:31pm

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

CinisterCee said:

OK I have to say, at 5 minutes, "With U" needs a radio edit.


Oh, that will happen lol I'm sure it will be shortened to about 3:30. They will probably eliminate the bridge, which is my least favorite part of the song.


they have 2 include some rain sounds...does wonders with my janet ballads! batting eyes
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