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Reply #90 posted 11/28/06 3:27pm

Anx

GangstaFam said:

VoicesCarry said:

All "Screaming Vocalists" threads turn into Bjork threads lol

The thing is, I've only ever heard her actually scream in a couple songs, and they're usually in remixes.


pluto dancing jig drool
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Reply #91 posted 11/28/06 3:27pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

theAudience said:


I was actually using her as a positive example for a change. wink


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yeah, i got that, but i still had to defend her. lol

I appreciate that, cuz it saves me the trouble. lol
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Reply #92 posted 11/28/06 3:28pm

MikeMatronik

GangstaFam said:

VoicesCarry said:

All "Screaming Vocalists" threads turn into Bjork threads lol

The thing is, I've only ever heard her actually scream in a couple songs, and they're usually in remixes.


Most of the general public still sees Björk as the excentric icelandic woman that screens in the Spike Jonze video and believes in fairies!
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Reply #93 posted 11/28/06 3:28pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

pluto dancing jig drool

Army of Me w. Skunk Anansie headbang
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Reply #94 posted 11/28/06 3:28pm

MikeMatronik

GangstaFam said:

MikeMatronik said:

The Dreaming




blaspemy! mad

Wait until PANDURITO see this!!!!!
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Reply #95 posted 11/28/06 3:29pm

CinisterCee

MikeMatronik said:

GangstaFam said:


The thing is, I've only ever heard her actually scream in a couple songs, and they're usually in remixes.


Most of the general public still sees Björk as the excentric icelandic woman that screens in the Spike Jonze video and believes in fairies!


hahaha I know! She's actually very accessible.
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Reply #96 posted 11/28/06 3:31pm

MikeMatronik

CinisterCee said:

MikeMatronik said:



Most of the general public still sees Björk as the excentric icelandic woman that screens in the Spike Jonze video and believes in fairies!


hahaha I know! She's actually very accessible.


lol I know Cinister...

This reminds me when I played once Gling Glo to a friend...and she said she didn't know bjork did not scream
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Reply #97 posted 11/28/06 3:32pm

GangstaFam

CinisterCee said:


hahaha I know! She's actually very accessible.

I agree. She's kinda the flipside to Madonna.

Madonna makes pop arty and Bjork makes art poppy. Or something like that.
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Reply #98 posted 11/28/06 3:33pm

Anx

CinisterCee said:

MikeMatronik said:



Most of the general public still sees Björk as the excentric icelandic woman that screens in the Spike Jonze video and believes in fairies!


hahaha I know! She's actually very accessible.


actually, the more i'm reading about icelandic culture, the more traditional and almost conservative bjork appears to me. in the relative spectrum, mind you.
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Reply #99 posted 11/28/06 3:33pm

Scorpion

You mean the "belting"?

I guess so, different strokes for different folks. I LOVE the big vocal....belting, runs, riffs, growls, grunts, scats, trills...the works! Whatever you can make your voice do. I also love the soft melodic vocal from the ppl that can capture that mood....but still turn it up later on when necessary & bring it on home. Not no weak ass fragile vocal that can't do nothing but stay montone. I guess I can make an exception if its carried by a hot beat (that's if their voice ain't lost in it).
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #100 posted 11/28/06 3:34pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

actually, the more i'm reading about icelandic culture, the more traditional and almost conservative bjork appears to me. in the relative spectrum, mind you.

please explain. biggrin
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Reply #101 posted 11/28/06 3:36pm

CinisterCee

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:

actually, the more i'm reading about icelandic culture, the more traditional and almost conservative bjork appears to me. in the relative spectrum, mind you.

please explain. biggrin

biggrin

Wouldn't classical music in pop format be the most accessible?
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Reply #102 posted 11/28/06 3:37pm

Anx

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:

actually, the more i'm reading about icelandic culture, the more traditional and almost conservative bjork appears to me. in the relative spectrum, mind you.

please explain. biggrin


the book 'waking up in iceland' can explain better than i can in a post. you should track the book down and read it sometime.

i'm a little afraid to explain how i perceived iceland from reading this book, cuz purplehippie's gonna come in here and say "YOU STUPID AMERICAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL!!!" lol

but from what i understood from the book, iceland is such a small country, it doesn't make sense to ape what's popular because there really aren't enough venues to humor soundalike bands. it's a simple matter of good business sense to be as unusual and unique as possible. it's less about being rebellious or transgressive than it is about drawing a crowd. individuality is a matter of practicality, and it's just an understood part of the music scene.

it makes total sense that bjork came from that kind of a culture.
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Reply #103 posted 11/28/06 3:37pm

MikeMatronik

Anx said:

CinisterCee said:



hahaha I know! She's actually very accessible.


actually, the more i'm reading about icelandic culture, the more traditional and almost conservative bjork appears to me. in the relative spectrum, mind you.


no way... eek
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Reply #104 posted 11/28/06 3:39pm

MikeMatronik

Anx said:

GangstaFam said:


please explain. biggrin


the book 'waking up in iceland' can explain better than i can in a post. you should track the book down and read it sometime.

i'm a little afraid to explain how i perceived iceland from reading this book, cuz purplehippie's gonna come in here and say "YOU STUPID AMERICAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL!!!" lol

but from what i understood from the book, iceland is such a small country, it doesn't make sense to ape what's popular because there really aren't enough venues to humor soundalike bands. it's a simple matter of good business sense to be as unusual and unique as possible. it's less about being rebellious or transgressive than it is about drawing a crowd. individuality is a matter of practicality, and it's just an understood part of the music scene.

it makes total sense that bjork came from that kind of a culture.


So their small society urges the individual to be original and not a mere follower of a certain trend?
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Reply #105 posted 11/28/06 3:44pm

Anx

MikeMatronik said:

Anx said:



the book 'waking up in iceland' can explain better than i can in a post. you should track the book down and read it sometime.

i'm a little afraid to explain how i perceived iceland from reading this book, cuz purplehippie's gonna come in here and say "YOU STUPID AMERICAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL!!!" lol

but from what i understood from the book, iceland is such a small country, it doesn't make sense to ape what's popular because there really aren't enough venues to humor soundalike bands. it's a simple matter of good business sense to be as unusual and unique as possible. it's less about being rebellious or transgressive than it is about drawing a crowd. individuality is a matter of practicality, and it's just an understood part of the music scene.

it makes total sense that bjork came from that kind of a culture.


So their small society urges the individual to be original and not a mere follower of a certain trend?


as i understand it, there's no room for it. not within the context of the local music scene.
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Reply #106 posted 11/28/06 3:45pm

MikeMatronik

Anx said:

MikeMatronik said:



So their small society urges the individual to be original and not a mere follower of a certain trend?


as i understand it, there's no room for it. not within the context of the local music scene.


I have 2 get that book... cool
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Reply #107 posted 11/28/06 3:46pm

Anx

MikeMatronik said:

Anx said:



as i understand it, there's no room for it. not within the context of the local music scene.


I have 2 get that book... cool


it's a really great read.
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Reply #108 posted 11/28/06 3:49pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:


the book 'waking up in iceland' can explain better than i can in a post. you should track the book down and read it sometime.

i'm a little afraid to explain how i perceived iceland from reading this book, cuz purplehippie's gonna come in here and say "YOU STUPID AMERICAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL!!!" lol

but from what i understood from the book, iceland is such a small country, it doesn't make sense to ape what's popular because there really aren't enough venues to humor soundalike bands. it's a simple matter of good business sense to be as unusual and unique as possible. it's less about being rebellious or transgressive than it is about drawing a crowd. individuality is a matter of practicality, and it's just an understood part of the music scene.

it makes total sense that bjork came from that kind of a culture.

Ah, I gotcha. Conservative relative to where she comes from, not as what we know of as conservative.
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Reply #109 posted 11/28/06 3:52pm

Anx

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:


the book 'waking up in iceland' can explain better than i can in a post. you should track the book down and read it sometime.

i'm a little afraid to explain how i perceived iceland from reading this book, cuz purplehippie's gonna come in here and say "YOU STUPID AMERICAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL!!!" lol

but from what i understood from the book, iceland is such a small country, it doesn't make sense to ape what's popular because there really aren't enough venues to humor soundalike bands. it's a simple matter of good business sense to be as unusual and unique as possible. it's less about being rebellious or transgressive than it is about drawing a crowd. individuality is a matter of practicality, and it's just an understood part of the music scene.

it makes total sense that bjork came from that kind of a culture.

Ah, I gotcha. Conservative relative to where she comes from, not as what we know of as conservative.


exactly. though i think that relative to ANY culture, there's a practicality to her music that is overshadowed by the fact that her end result sounds so unusual. you know this - she can be questioned about anything she's done in any of her songs, and she ALWAYS has a well thought-out answer that actually makes a lot of sense. not that all her interview answers in GENERAL always make sense, but that's another story... lol
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Reply #110 posted 11/28/06 3:55pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

exactly. though i think that relative to ANY culture, there's a practicality to her music that is overshadowed by the fact that her end result sounds so unusual. you know this - she can be questioned about anything she's done in any of her songs, and she ALWAYS has a well thought-out answer that actually makes a lot of sense. not that all her interview answers in GENERAL always make sense, but that's another story... lol

"My absolute dream sexual encounter is to get fucked in a rubber room full of ping pong balls and flamingos."

umm...yeah. lol
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Reply #111 posted 11/28/06 3:56pm

Anx

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:

exactly. though i think that relative to ANY culture, there's a practicality to her music that is overshadowed by the fact that her end result sounds so unusual. you know this - she can be questioned about anything she's done in any of her songs, and she ALWAYS has a well thought-out answer that actually makes a lot of sense. not that all her interview answers in GENERAL always make sense, but that's another story... lol

"My absolute dream sexual encounter is to get fucked in a rubber room full of ping pong balls and flamingos."

umm...yeah. lol


i feel her. nod











boxed
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Reply #112 posted 11/28/06 3:58pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

i feel her. nod


boxed

omg Did you make it with Bjork? omg
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Reply #113 posted 11/28/06 3:58pm

TonyVanDam

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Nobody can scream the way an Old Diva like Khan could. Not anymore they don't.


Chaka Khan would destory Beyonce on the scream vocals! cool
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Reply #114 posted 11/28/06 4:01pm

Anx

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:

i feel her. nod


boxed

omg Did you make it with Bjork? omg


let's just say i don't find captain kangaroo all that innocent of a television institution anymore.
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Reply #115 posted 11/28/06 4:02pm

TonyVanDam

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theAudience said:

vainandy said:

I love screaming but it has to sound like it came spontaneous and naturally, like the singer was absolutely feeling the song. If the screams are planned, they end up sounding like somebody trying really hard to win on "Amateur Night At The Apollo".

Dig out some James Brown...



...Live At The Apollo (1963)


That's the flip side of "Amateur Night". cool


Footnote: Not only did he scream, but he taught the audience how to scream properly. wink


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[Edited 11/28/06 13:52pm]



I'm think about The Payback when you mention JB screaming properly.
cool
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Reply #116 posted 11/28/06 4:02pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

let's just say i don't find captain kangaroo all that innocent of a television institution anymore.

Bozo Buckets is kinda kinky when you think about it.
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Reply #117 posted 11/28/06 4:02pm

CinisterCee

Anx said:

GangstaFam said:


"My absolute dream sexual encounter is to get fucked in a rubber room full of ping pong balls and flamingos."

umm...yeah. lol


i feel her. nod


Which, in turn, is conservative relative to the org's society. thumbs up!
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Reply #118 posted 11/28/06 4:06pm

Anx

CinisterCee said:

Anx said:



i feel her. nod


Which, in turn, is conservative relative to the org's society. thumbs up!


it's downright jejune in comparison to zelaira even on a bad hair day.
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Reply #119 posted 11/28/06 5:29pm

Giovanni777

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...but going back 2 the subject of singers sounding like they R in a talent show, and over-blowing all the time... No sense of building the emotion through dynamics, etc...

Just listen 2 Mary Mary's "Yesterday"...

Sounds like there R some singers out there, doing it right...

1st U must look at this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/209712

Find the song. Listen 2 it, if U haven't yet heard it.

Peace.
[Edited 11/28/06 17:29pm]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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