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Reply #60 posted 11/28/06 3:07pm

Anx

CinisterCee said:

VoicesCarry said:



She makes me vomit, too. I had a particularly nasty association with "I Will Remember You" since the morons used that on a drunk driving commercial here in Ontario. Christ I hate that song lol


It's mostly the passionate faces that go with her singing.

hmm Don't let your liiiiife
eek PASS you by
mad



oh god falloff
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Reply #61 posted 11/28/06 3:07pm

CinisterCee

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:



if that's what an album like 'vespertine' truly is, then i am a HUGE fan of fecal matter. and proud of it.

I'm a registered scat fetishist. nod


I can't believe VC dared to jump straight into a vat of Medulla, though.
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Reply #62 posted 11/28/06 3:08pm

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



Have you heard "Médulla"?


Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art.


That's a bit drastic... confused

Björk is in the same level of Kate Bush. They live and are music.

At least try to have an open mind about her. Try Vespertine (like Anx pointed)...listening to that album alone is a very rewarding experience ("It`s Not Up To You" is pure brilliance!)
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Reply #63 posted 11/28/06 3:08pm

VoicesCarry

dancerella said:

VoicesCarry said:



I would have to agree with you on this. She has not yet learned how to sing softly.




Xtina said the producers literally had to tell her to hold back and tone down her vocals on her first album and i think it's because she is notorius for yelling through songs. i think she has a great voice but once again is it simply because she yells? i think the ultimate challenge would be to see if these newer artists can truly sing and have have them sing a song with absolutely no runs. i bet they would all be lost. beyonce said on oprah that her character "deena" in dream girls can't really sing so she had to pull back. first off she thinks that holding back means you can't sing and second i really am curious to hear her sing in this fashion.

by the way, i heard jennifer hudson seriously gives bee a run for her money and there is some tension between them.


Jennifer >>>>> Beyonce. In singing and acting depts.
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Reply #64 posted 11/28/06 3:08pm

go2theMax

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Anx said:

VoicesCarry said:



Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art.


if that's what an album like 'vespertine' truly is, then i am a HUGE fan of fecal matter. and proud of it.



so do I.
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Reply #65 posted 11/28/06 3:08pm

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art.


That's a bit drastic... confused

Björk is in the same level of Kate Bush. They live and are music.

At least try to have an open mind about her. Try Vespertine (like Anx pointed)...listening to that album alone is a very rewarding experience ("It`s Not Up To You" is pure brilliance!)


I've tried! Now see I like Kate Bush (okay, not her last one, which SUCKED - was she serious lol?)
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Reply #66 posted 11/28/06 3:09pm

MikeMatronik

go2theMax said:

Anx said:



if that's what an album like 'vespertine' truly is, then i am a HUGE fan of fecal matter. and proud of it.



so do I.


And me 2!
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Reply #67 posted 11/28/06 3:10pm

dancerella

unkemptpueblo said:

vainandy said:



I started noticing new singers immitating shows like that as far back as "Star Search"...a show that bored the hell out of me. Whenever VH1 does a history on some of these artists, some of them have even performed on "Star Search" in their past. No wonder they are so boring. lol

Anyway, I remember when David Peaston used to win every weekend on "Amateur Night At The Apollo" singing "God Bless The Child" in the 1980s. He started out singing and by the end of the song, he was screaming at the top of his lungs. The audience went wild each week. I, myself, was loving the performance too. However, afterwards, more and more performers would purposely do a lot of screaming because they had seen how the audience reacted with David Peaston. Yeah, that was great for him but it does not work for everyone.

Another thing that used to get on my nerves is, they would try to break it down and copy Luther Vandross when he would break it down. Those earlier entertainers were just being themselves. These newcomers need to stop copying people and start being themselves also. They might find that they have something unique to offer that no one else has ever done before.


hell yeah. Remember that Sam guy(cant recall his last name) that kept winning w/ "Somewhere over the Rainbow"?

"If birds fly over the rainbow
Then why caaaaant IIIII"

I kept waiting for his head to explode, but unfortunately it never happened.



oh my god, you are cracking me up. i remember that guy sam. i can't think of his last name now but i know exaclty what you're talking about. home boy would build it up and then pow he unleashed all that drama on us.
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Reply #68 posted 11/28/06 3:11pm

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



That's a bit drastic... confused

Björk is in the same level of Kate Bush. They live and are music.

At least try to have an open mind about her. Try Vespertine (like Anx pointed)...listening to that album alone is a very rewarding experience ("It`s Not Up To You" is pure brilliance!)


I've tried! Now see I like Kate Bush (okay, not her last one, which SUCKED - was she serious lol?)


Aerial did not suck! eek

It's a masterpiece! Don't tell me you didn't find songs like Sunset (personnal favorite), A Coral Room, Nocturn or even Mrs. Bartolozzi (WASSSHHHIINNNGGGGG MACHINE!)?

Sometimes some albums and artists must be fought 2 fully understand their music
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Reply #69 posted 11/28/06 3:11pm

dancerella

VoicesCarry said:

Anx said:



you know i have to defend my girl. giggle

the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. i mean, listen to a song like "joga" and tell me her voice isn't a perfectly placed instrument. the song is sublime, and her voice is such an important part of the arrangement. i feel that thought goes into the way she approaches the singing of a song, rather than "i'm gonna wow 'em with my pipes, just because i can." it's partially an instinctual way of singing, which comes across as very organic, and it's also an awareness of the music happening around her voice, which i think takes a lot of control and a tempering of diva ego. i wouldn't dismiss her technique as just being loud for the sake of screaming.


Bjork is definitely a case of love-it-or-hate-it.


in my case hate it!
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Reply #70 posted 11/28/06 3:11pm

Anx

VoicesCarry said:

MikeMatronik said:



That's a bit drastic... confused

Björk is in the same level of Kate Bush. They live and are music.

At least try to have an open mind about her. Try Vespertine (like Anx pointed)...listening to that album alone is a very rewarding experience ("It`s Not Up To You" is pure brilliance!)


I've tried! Now see I like Kate Bush (okay, not her last one, which SUCKED - was she serious lol?)


i loved ariel. i can't even co-exist in the same musical universe as you. there's no translator qualified to do the job. lol
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Reply #71 posted 11/28/06 3:12pm

GangstaFam

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art.


That's a bit drastic... confused

Björk is in the same level of Kate Bush. They live and are music.

At least try to have an open mind about her. Try Vespertine (like Anx pointed)...listening to that album alone is a very rewarding experience ("It`s Not Up To You" is pure brilliance!)

I do understand that if someone's voice grates you, you're not going to give the music much of a chance.

Some of my favorites artists were not an instant fit for me, and it took some work to get past their voices.

Some artists who I can appreciate, I'll never love simply because I can't stand the way they sing. See Rufus Wainwright for example.
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Reply #72 posted 11/28/06 3:12pm

VoicesCarry

MikeMatronik said:

VoicesCarry said:



I've tried! Now see I like Kate Bush (okay, not her last one, which SUCKED - was she serious lol?)


Aerial did not suck! eek

It's a masterpiece! Don't tell me you didn't find songs like Sunset (personnal favorite), A Coral Room, Nocturn or even Mrs. Bartolozzi (WASSSHHHIINNNGGGGG MACHINE!)?

Sometimes some albums and artists must be fought 2 fully understand their music


That washing machine song is a comedy classic! lol
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Reply #73 posted 11/28/06 3:13pm

VoicesCarry

GangstaFam said:

MikeMatronik said:



That's a bit drastic... confused

Björk is in the same level of Kate Bush. They live and are music.

At least try to have an open mind about her. Try Vespertine (like Anx pointed)...listening to that album alone is a very rewarding experience ("It`s Not Up To You" is pure brilliance!)

I do understand that if someone's voice grates you, you're not going to give the music much of a chance.

Some of my favorites artists were not an instant fit for me, and it took some work to get past their voices.

Some artists who I can appreciate, I'll never love simply because I can't stand the way they sing. See Rufus Wainwright for example.


Bob Dylan for me. I never spin his shit even though I recognize the value of it.
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Reply #74 posted 11/28/06 3:14pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

VoicesCarry said:



I've tried! Now see I like Kate Bush (okay, not her last one, which SUCKED - was she serious lol?)


i loved ariel. i can't even co-exist in the same musical universe as you. there's no translator qualified to do the job. lol

I loved "Ariel" too. Hated "The Dreaming".

But I suppose I'm an oddball among Kate fans. Many of them hated the last one and consider "The Dreaming" her best. shrug
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Reply #75 posted 11/28/06 3:14pm

Anx

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:



i loved ariel. i can't even co-exist in the same musical universe as you. there's no translator qualified to do the job. lol

I loved "Ariel" too. Hated "The Dreaming".

But I suppose I'm an oddball among Kate fans. Many of them hated the last one and consider "The Dreaming" her best. shrug


i'm not thrilled with 'the dreaming' either. ariel and hounds of love are my favorites, with sensual world close behind. nod
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Reply #76 posted 11/28/06 3:15pm

go2theMax

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2 be honest I don't like singers with "perfect" vocal...they tend 2 be boring with all those vocal jugglings...
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Reply #77 posted 11/28/06 3:16pm

CinisterCee

dancerella said:

VoicesCarry said:



Bjork is definitely a case of love-it-or-hate-it.


in my case hate it!


At least, Bjork always has good beats. Y'all need to try out Bjork's Greatest Hits.

Her music isn't one bit as challenging as this cover art.

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Reply #78 posted 11/28/06 3:17pm

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Anx said:

theAudience said:


I believe some folks confuse "dreadful runs" with actually having control over your voice and being able to do things with it.
Would some of the things [b]Bjork does with her voice be considered "dreadful runs"?[/b]


you know i have to defend my girl. giggle


I was actually using her as a positive example for a change. wink


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Reply #79 posted 11/28/06 3:17pm

MikeMatronik

Anx said:

GangstaFam said:


I loved "Ariel" too. Hated "The Dreaming".

But I suppose I'm an oddball among Kate fans. Many of them hated the last one and consider "The Dreaming" her best. shrug


i'm not thrilled with 'the dreaming' either. ariel and hounds of love are my favorites, with sensual world close behind. nod


My favorites are in fact The Dreaming, The Kick Inside and The Sensual world.
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Reply #80 posted 11/28/06 3:17pm

GangstaFam

Anx said:

i'm not thrilled with 'the dreaming' either. ariel and hounds of love are my favorites, with sensual world close behind. nod

Throw in "Never For Ever" and I'm right there with ya.
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Reply #81 posted 11/28/06 3:18pm

Anx

theAudience said:

Anx said:



you know i have to defend my girl. giggle


I was actually using her as a positive example for a change. wink


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431


yeah, i got that, but i still had to defend her. lol
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Reply #82 posted 11/28/06 3:19pm

MikeMatronik

GangstaFam said:

Anx said:

i'm not thrilled with 'the dreaming' either. ariel and hounds of love are my favorites, with sensual world close behind. nod

Throw in "Never For Ever" and I'm right there with ya.


Violin is such an underrated song! cool
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Reply #83 posted 11/28/06 3:23pm

theAudience

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Anx said:

yeah, i got that, but i still had to defend her. lol

You're such a Bjork ruffian. pimp2


tA

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Reply #84 posted 11/28/06 3:24pm

VoicesCarry

All "Screaming Vocalists" threads turn into Bjork threads lol
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Reply #85 posted 11/28/06 3:25pm

dancerella

stop talkin about Bjork damnit and stick to the subject!!!!! mad
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Reply #86 posted 11/28/06 3:26pm

MikeMatronik

VoicesCarry said:

All "Screaming Vocalists" threads turn into Bjork threads lol


one day u will become one of us! giggle
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Reply #87 posted 11/28/06 3:26pm

CinisterCee

theAudience said:

Anx said:

yeah, i got that, but i still had to defend her. lol

You're such a Bjork ruffian. pimp2


I missed that one, you weren't calling Bjork dreadful?
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Reply #88 posted 11/28/06 3:26pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

All "Screaming Vocalists" threads turn into Bjork threads lol

The thing is, I've only ever heard her actually scream in a couple songs, and they're usually in remixes.
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Reply #89 posted 11/28/06 3:27pm

GangstaFam

MikeMatronik said:

The Dreaming


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