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PrintableVoicesCarry said: ^ I really hate Gwen's damn wig
 Blasphemy! 
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MikeMatronik said: VoicesCarry said: ^ I really hate Gwen's damn wig
Blasphemy!
She be crying since she just heard Wind It Up
It's a terrible style on her, though. The cut of it, I mean. Yikes. Now why did they not choose one of these for the album cover vs. the ugly one with the sunglasses? [Edited 11/28/06 14:46pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: MikeMatronik said: Blasphemy!
She be crying since she just heard Wind It Up
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Damm I needed a good laugh!
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VoicesCarry said: MikeMatronik said: Blasphemy!
She be crying since she just heard Wind It Up
It's a terrible style on her, though. The cut of it, I mean. Yikes. Now why did they not choose one of these for the album cover vs. the ugly one with the sunglasses? [Edited 11/28/06 14:46pm] It's ridiculous just like that stupid ass Wind it Up song so it's perfect really 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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theAudience said: dancerella said: I was watching Oprah when the Dream Girls cast was on and Beyonce sang "listen". I thought she was incredible but then I thought is it because she's yelling? I know in r&b the louder you sing the better a singer you are consisdered. Why is that? Someone like Kelis will never be considered great because she doesn't scream do those dreadful "runs" that everyone does.
I believe some folks confuse "dreadful runs" with actually having control over your voice and being able to do things with it. Would some of the things [b]Bjork does with her voice be considered "dreadful runs"?[/b] you know i have to defend my girl. 
the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. i mean, listen to a song like "joga" and tell me her voice isn't a perfectly placed instrument. the song is sublime, and her voice is such an important part of the arrangement. i feel that thought goes into the way she approaches the singing of a song, rather than "i'm gonna wow 'em with my pipes, just because i can." it's partially an instinctual way of singing, which comes across as very organic, and it's also an awareness of the music happening around her voice, which i think takes a lot of control and a tempering of diva ego. i wouldn't dismiss her technique as just being loud for the sake of screaming. | |
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Anx said: theAudience said: I believe some folks confuse "dreadful runs" with actually having control over your voice and being able to do things with it. Would some of the things [b]Bjork does with her voice be considered "dreadful runs"?[/b] you know i have to defend my girl.
the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. i mean, listen to a song like "joga" and tell me her voice isn't a perfectly placed instrument. the song is sublime, and her voice is such an important part of the arrangement. i feel that thought goes into the way she approaches the singing of a song, rather than "i'm gonna wow 'em with my pipes, just because i can." it's partially an instinctual way of singing, which comes across as very organic, and it's also an awareness of the music happening around her voice, which i think takes a lot of control and a tempering of diva ego. i wouldn't dismiss her technique as just being loud for the sake of screaming. Bjork is definitely a case of love-it-or-hate-it. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Anx said: you know i have to defend my girl.
the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. i mean, listen to a song like "joga" and tell me her voice isn't a perfectly placed instrument. the song is sublime, and her voice is such an important part of the arrangement. i feel that thought goes into the way she approaches the singing of a song, rather than "i'm gonna wow 'em with my pipes, just because i can." it's partially an instinctual way of singing, which comes across as very organic, and it's also an awareness of the music happening around her voice, which i think takes a lot of control and a tempering of diva ego. i wouldn't dismiss her technique as just being loud for the sake of screaming. Bjork is definitely a case of love-it-or-hate-it. certainly. because she does not have a traditional style of phrasing her vocals. but there is a method to her madness that goes beyond simple showboating, like most of the top 40 melismatics out there. | |
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Strangely the only woman that screams and makes sense is this one:
Love the way she expresses emotion... | |
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Anx said: theAudience said: I believe some folks confuse "dreadful runs" with actually having control over your voice and being able to do things with it. Would some of the things [b]Bjork does with her voice be considered "dreadful runs"?[/b] you know i have to defend my girl.
the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. i mean, listen to a song like "joga" and tell me her voice isn't a perfectly placed instrument. the song is sublime, and her voice is such an important part of the arrangement. i feel that thought goes into the way she approaches the singing of a song, rather than "i'm gonna wow 'em with my pipes, just because i can." it's partially an instinctual way of singing, which comes across as very organic, and it's also an awareness of the music happening around her voice, which i think takes a lot of control and a tempering of diva ego. i wouldn't dismiss her technique as just being loud for the sake of screaming. thank you. | |
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Anx said: VoicesCarry said: Bjork is definitely a case of love-it-or-hate-it. certainly. because she does not have a traditional style of phrasing her vocals. but there is a method to her madness that goes beyond simple showboating, like most of the top 40 melismatics out there. I hate it, so all this talk of "method to her madness" has no effect on me. And I doubt it will on tA, either | |
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Anx said: theAudience said: I believe some folks confuse "dreadful runs" with actually having control over your voice and being able to do things with it. Would some of the things [b]Bjork does with her voice be considered "dreadful runs"?[/b] you know i have to defend my girl.
the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. i mean, listen to a song like "joga" and tell me her voice isn't a perfectly placed instrument. the song is sublime, and her voice is such an important part of the arrangement. i feel that thought goes into the way she approaches the singing of a song, rather than "i'm gonna wow 'em with my pipes, just because i can." it's partially an instinctual way of singing, which comes across as very organic, and it's also an awareness of the music happening around her voice, which i think takes a lot of control and a tempering of diva ego. i wouldn't dismiss her technique as just being loud for the sake of screaming. I LOVE HER!!! | |
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And I must say that when someone can actually scream in tune, not just sing loudly, I'm very jealous of that. Someone like Prince or Kurt Cobain who can basically scream whole parts of a song in a melody...that totally blows me away. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Anx said: certainly. because she does not have a traditional style of phrasing her vocals. but there is a method to her madness that goes beyond simple showboating, like most of the top 40 melismatics out there. I hate it, so all this talk of "method to her madness" has no effect on me. And I doubt it will on tA, either Have you heard "Médulla"? | |
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MikeMatronik said: VoicesCarry said: I hate it, so all this talk of "method to her madness" has no effect on me. And I doubt it will on tA, either Have you heard "Médulla"? Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art. | |
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GangstaFam said: And I must say that when someone can actually scream in tune, not just sing loudly, I'm very jealous of that. Someone like Prince or Kurt Cobain who can basically scream whole parts of a song in a melody...that totally blows me away.
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VoicesCarry said: Anx said: certainly. because she does not have a traditional style of phrasing her vocals. but there is a method to her madness that goes beyond simple showboating, like most of the top 40 melismatics out there. I hate it, so all this talk of "method to her madness" has no effect on me. And I doubt it will on tA, either we're all allowed our self-imposed limitations. even myself - i'm sure sarah maclachlin is a fantastic musician and vocalist, but i can't get past the fact that i think she has a mean looking face and that i think she sings like her voice is cracking all the time. my loss maybe? who knows. can't stand the woman.  | |
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Anx said: the thing about bjork's vocal style is, she knows when to go to a whisper and she knows when to go to a wail - her delivery meshes with the emotion of her lyrics and she's also quite adept at blending her vocals with the instrumentation. That is exactly why her voice is the perfect instrument. While alot of popular singers pick up a megaphone, THEN the lyric sheet. | |
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Anx said: VoicesCarry said: I hate it, so all this talk of "method to her madness" has no effect on me. And I doubt it will on tA, either we're all allowed our self-imposed limitations. even myself - i'm sure sarah maclachlin is a fantastic musician and vocalist, but i can't get past the fact that i think she has a mean looking face and that i think she sings like her voice is cracking all the time. my loss maybe? who knows. can't stand the woman. She makes me vomit, too. I had a particularly nasty association with "I Will Remember You" since the morons used that on a drunk driving commercial here in Ontario. Christ I hate that song | |
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VoicesCarry said: MikeMatronik said: Have you heard "Médulla"? Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art. if that's what an album like 'vespertine' truly is, then i am a HUGE fan of fecal matter. and proud of it. | |
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VoicesCarry said: MikeMatronik said: Have you heard "Médulla"? Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art. 
But I agree...it's a case of "love it or hate it" | |
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Anx said: VoicesCarry said: Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art. if that's what an album like 'vespertine' truly is, then i am a HUGE fan of fecal matter. and proud of it. The Government of Canada and many critics called it art, too. Depends on how you look at it, I guess | |
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VoicesCarry said: Anx said: we're all allowed our self-imposed limitations. even myself - i'm sure sarah maclachlin is a fantastic musician and vocalist, but i can't get past the fact that i think she has a mean looking face and that i think she sings like her voice is cracking all the time. my loss maybe? who knows. can't stand the woman. She makes me vomit, too. I had a particularly nasty association with "I Will Remember You" since the morons used that on a drunk driving commercial here in Ontario. Christ I hate that song It's mostly the passionate faces that go with her singing.  Don't let your liiiiife
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VoicesCarry said: Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art.
Oh jesus, she's not that bad whether you can't stand her voice or not. Surely you can see the musical value of at least her string arrangements? | |
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VoicesCarry said: minneapolisgenius said: That's why I can't listen to Christina Aguilera. She always just YELLS things.
 I would have to agree with you on this. She has not yet learned how to sing softly. Xtina said the producers literally had to tell her to hold back and tone down her vocals on her first album and i think it's because she is notorius for yelling through songs. i think she has a great voice but once again is it simply because she yells? i think the ultimate challenge would be to see if these newer artists can truly sing and have have them sing a song with absolutely no runs. i bet they would all be lost. beyonce said on oprah that her character "deena" in dream girls can't really sing so she had to pull back. first off she thinks that holding back means you can't sing and second i really am curious to hear her sing in this fashion. by the way, i heard jennifer hudson seriously gives bee a run for her money and there is some tension between them. | |
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GangstaFam said: VoicesCarry said: Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art.
Oh jesus, she's not that bad whether you can't stand her voice or not. Surely you can see the musical value of at least her string arrangements? I think she makes melody sound amelodic | |
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Anx said: VoicesCarry said: Believe me, I have sampled Bjork and tried to get into her many times. To me, she's the musical equivalent of the dude who canned his shit with funding from the Government of Canada and called it art. if that's what an album like 'vespertine' truly is, then i am a HUGE fan of fecal matter. and proud of it. I'm a registered scat fetishist. | |
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MikeMatronik said: Strangely the only woman that screams and makes sense is this one:
Love the way she expresses emotion... she's in a whole 'nother universe than just about anyone else discussed in this thread thus far. i look at her voice as a mad scientist's laboratory - there's just no limit to where she will go with it. yet at the same time, her best recordings and performances are of traditional blues, country and gospel songs. | |
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CinisterCee said: VoicesCarry said: She makes me vomit, too. I had a particularly nasty association with "I Will Remember You" since the morons used that on a drunk driving commercial here in Ontario. Christ I hate that song It's mostly the passionate faces that go with her singing. Don't let your liiiiife
PASS you by Do you remember the classic org post where someone called her out on that? Hilarious. | |
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go2theMax said: dancerella said: I was watching Oprah when the Dream Girls cast was on and Beyonce sang "listen". I thought she was incredible but then I thought is it because she's yelling? I know in r&b the louder you sing the better a singer you are consisdered. Why is that? Someone like Kelis will never be considered great because she doesn't scream do those dreadful "runs" that everyone does.
Thank U! I couldn't agree more. Mariah (not now, I guess she realized that it's not cool), Christina, Beyonce...they all piss me off oversinging themselves....I remember one of those VH1 Diva special...when MC was trying to outsing Aretha...what a embarassment!! oh my god, i remember that and let me say that i love mariah but you can not out do aretha. no one can and i thought it was rude that she even tried to. | |
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