minneapolisgenius said:

Nice take Rowdy.
Nice pics MG

You both should get a kick out of the comments here:
http://www.rateitall.com/...9&show=all


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theAudience said:

I have more where they came from you know.


And I'm sort of scared to look at that link you posted.

Just looked and oh. It's THAT old bullshit again. Have you taken chuckaducci's place now or something?

It's interesting though, reading through that link (and from responses on this threadm and others about him) how much varying opinions there are of this man. I mean, some people absolutely HATE him and say he's the most overrated ever, and others just adore him. How can this be? You'd think there would be some sort of middle ground, but there really isn't when it comes to him: people either bash him or praise him. It's so odd. Well, at least he brings out passionate responses from people.
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OK, I overstepped the mark - but I find him to be such a sloppy player, going for strings in a random fashion in the hope that it sounds passable.

minneapolisgenius said:

What? It was pretty balanced.
The Pro-Pagers do write like they're about *Three Sheets to the Wind.

I wasn't aware that chuckaducci had been taking you to task.



*Now the writer of that tune is a great guitarist.


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theAudience said:

That's not balanced! The whole first page is practically one big Page Hate fest.

As for comments about him being sloppy and his playing style, he's never been one to toot-his-own-horn, so to speak, or be cocky about his playing that's for sure. He has always been very humble about things and what he was capable of.

For example, here's one quote from him about his playing on The Battle of Evermore: (more about mandolin playing actually)

"I forget whether people had gone to bed early, or what, but it just came out then. I picked up the mandolin, which was actually John Paul Jones's mandolin and those chords just came out. It was my first experiment with the mandolin. I suppose all mandolin players would have a great laugh 'cos it must be the standard thing to play those chords, you know, but possibly not the same approach. Anyway, it was just one of those things where I was governed by the limitations of the instrument. Possibly, afterwards, it sounded like a dance around a maypole number I must admit, but it wasn't purposely like that -- 'Let's do a folky number.'

"That's fingerpicking again, going on back to the studio days and developing a certain amount of technique. At least enough to be adapted and used. My fingerpicking is sort of a cross between Pete Seeger, Earl Scruggs, and total incompetence."

minneapolisgenius said:

I had to go back and read them again.

Classic (either funny or just plain ridiculous)...

...along with his horrible drummer john bonham...

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Of the Yardbirds guitar trio he comes in way behind the much superior Jeff Beck but is only slightly less overrated than the humungously overrated Clapton.

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Is it possible to give minus stars?

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Unfortunately, many people have been brain-washed thinking this fraud is a good musician. He is in fact a criminal, who shamelessly stole riffs from other more talented persons. Should be in jail.

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And what about that stupid double neck guitar he used to play . What a wanker!!!!!

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This guy was a very slick businessman who with that fat whale Pete Grant pulled off a great rock'n'roll rip off.

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An average guitarist adored by the teenage set. More mature people recognize his limitations.

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Jimmy Page is out of this world guitarist ! The Bestever possible compliments in this world would be an insult to him.. cause he is out of this world!

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White summer, on the led zep dvd, watch it, and tell me hes sloppy, wanna talk about sloppy HENDRIX IS SLOPPY all he had was acid and a fuzzbox(which he wouldnt have if it wasnt for mr. page.)

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But please, if you dont agree completely thats fine, but dont ever say hes not amazing, because that would just make you sound very very stupid **And on the 8th day G~D created zeppelin**

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In this day and age, his lead breaks sound quaint and old fashioned. My son laughs at his playing.

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To all the pimply Oxy-10 kiddies that don't think so, and didn't grow up in the 70's, I suggest you attend Jack Black's 'Rock School' or seek out your parent's Led Zeppelin ALBUMS, and give a listen.

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Plays like he has a broken hand.

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Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. This guy had good riffs, but had problems executing them. Very disoriented in concert and almost gave me a headache.

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He has inspired slash with out out page eddie would not have got his tapping technique he took it from heart breaker. even though not the fastest player page plays with emotion and invented the way the music is today. JIMMY PAGE IS GOD

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Other than Dickey Betts (who, for some reason gets no mention whatsoever on this list) and possibly Ritchie Blackmore, no player in the history of rock music approaches the myriad of stylings that may be attributted to the great Jimmy Page.

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Jimmy Page is the best guitarist only god could do better.

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and the guys that say that jimi hendrix is the greatesst u dont know anything aobut music

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Yeah if any of the people that read this and still believe he is the man check out G3 and realize what you can do if you actually put down the weed and practiced something.

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No doubt about it, he is simply the best. Jimi Hendrix is not a patch on page.

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...and i disagree with him being sloppy..the fact is that he doesnt show it..not many people can play the double-neck guitar.

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amazing guitarist...anyone who can play stairway to heaven on an 18-string (6 and 12-string doubleneck) guitar is definitly worthy of being called a master

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To the last two posts: Average and no taste! Hey idiots, go back to your garage and listen to your Britney Spears CD and tell me again where you get your warped ideas. Jimmy Page, together with Mr. Les Paul invented the "fuzz box" which gave you the crunch and power of today's heavy metal. Without Jimmy Page you would be listening to Metallica with a Beach Boys twang. I would end it here, but that's only the beginning. From there he innnovated the 12 string guitar, the dub, the fade and the guitar echo (made famous by Eric Clapton, Black Sabbath, and every other band since), to name only a few of his innovations. It might be seen as crude today, but I'm sure the CEO of Goodyear Tire Co. wouldn't trash the caveman who invented the wheel. Settle down guys, something tells me even Britney Spears was concieved during a Jimmy Page riff (while daddy was stiff).

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You know I like LZ but this was just too funny.


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I rest my case.

Why does Hendrix always have to come into play in these types of "discussions" I wonder. As if somehow they were the only competition for each other or something. Someone ALWAYS has to bring up who is the more overrated guitarist.

And that broken hand comment was stolen from Eddie Van Halen. He said that about Page. (and apologized later)

Britney Spears?
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minneapolisgenius said:

I thought that was the case but couldn't find the quote.
Something like, "he plays like he has palsey."

Fans will be fans.


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theAudience said:

I think it was, "Jimmy Page plays like a two year old with a broken hand."

He may have said something else about palsy as well, but I'm not sure.

This thread needs more pics.

Although I enjoy Page a lot and admire him for his innovative efforts and own style of playing I have a problem with guitarists that kind of have a tendency to play over their ability...it gives a sloppy impression. Some guitarists that I really like but has this disease are Jimmy Page, Slash and Richie Blackmore. Some people may like that unpolished sound. Me personally prefer Blackmore and Page on record because of their sloppy attitude when they play live.

I mean Page pretty much on some of his solos play as many notes as Malmsteen although most of them are pentatonics (as oppose to Malmsteen) and the fact that he misses many of them (as oppose to Malmsteen).
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He plays better than I do

I've only recently become a fan of Since I've Been Loving You, and I LOVE the DVD that's from, you should all go buy it. I always thought the song was a bit OTT even for Zep I could see how Robert Plant could get on you tits, and he tends to annoy me on that song.

More guitar stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...uwvBizKAwc

http://www.youtube.com/wa...OMDVMIfkxg

http://www.youtube.com/wa...TSNBFNLnlg

http://www.youtube.com/wa...dR5wQSjnq8

http://www.youtube.com/wa...GZd1GhkTwY

http://www.youtube.com/wa...9MKRs1rCx8
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Love me some Jimmy.

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, this motherfucker Danny Gatton aint so bad either.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=coYKM6uMQoY

minneapolisgenius said:

Hendrix is always brought up regarding Page because Hendrix and Page are the two MOST celebrated guitarists. And in that order too; Hendrix and then Page. Clapton and Beck used to be brought up in the company of Jimi, but they were quickly replaced by Pagey. Reason being, Page was a much flashier player than Clapton and Beck. And Page's fashion sense was more akin to Hendrix than the rest of the lot as well. Part of what makes u a guitar hero is not only how u LOOK while you're playing the guitar, but how u look in general. Firts of all, u gotta look like u play, even when you're standing no where near an instrument. Your aura must exude this. Clapton and Beck, although I love their playing, they didn't truly "look" like they played. Eddie Van Halen, especially in the late 70's and early 80's LOOKED like he played guitar. It wasn't cuz of the hair either. U had TONS of cats with hair during this period> A lot of times they just looked like they were frontin'. ("pretending" for those of u who don't know what "frontin' means). That's the main reason Page and Hendrix are usually in this category. Because they both reeked of flamboyance. Which was heela cool. They were both confident cats in their skills and they showcased this. In their playing AND their dress. Both Hendrix and Page "LOOKED" like they played guitar. This was more evident when they weren't even playing. It's a vibe. U either have it or u don't. And they both had it. Hendrix set the mold for what a guitar heroe should play like and what he should dress like. Page did the same thing. That's why whenever Page is discussed, Hendrix is bound to follow. Because I dig Page on his own, I never see the point in connecting him with Hendrix. They were two ENTIRELY different cats. The only time I have said anything regarded as a knock on Page is that bullshit he says about never seeing Jimi play live. That's him, I feel, trying to distance himself from all the other British guitarists that have always complimented Jimi to death.

carlcranshaw said:

Very true about Zepp's thing being based on Beck's "Truth" album. Which happens to be my favorite from Beck. Wasn't hip to Hendrix not digging Page. I never heard about that. But, Zepp did lift like hell off of bluesmen from the past. And they (the band) weren't quick to give credit to where their shit came from. I can see that bothering Jimi. Who was a bluesman at heart anyways.

carlcranshaw said:

You MET him?!

carlcranshaw said:

Oh, and I've heard vague comments here and there about Hendrix not liking Page as well. Oh yeah! I read that Carmine Appice interview online recently, that's why. Also, in Charles Shaar Murray's book Crosstown Traffic, he sort of alludes to that fact though. The amount of hate that Murray had for Zeppelin in that book though was pretty staggering.(to me as fan anyway ) Which is why I was SHOCKED when he actually wrote the second chapter about them in MOJO's Led Zeppelin Collector's Edition issue last year. He had some very positive things to say about them as a band, and basically admitted that he had a love-hate relationship with them and eventually settled into an admiration for the band.

Jimmy certainly respected Hendrix though. He's mentioned him in quite a few interviews.

I wouldn't say Zep's "whole thing" was based on the Truth album though. The first two albums, yes (because they both came out so close together), but after that, not at all.

You MET him?! [/quote]

He used to be friends with a lady in NOLA named Dawn and he would come see her at The Old Opera House on Bourbon Street. He was in there one night low key and I knew who he was so in between Supremes and Motown songs I'd play Beck licks in between songs to make him smile. He was very nice and he complimented me on my playing.

carlcranshaw said:

Great story. I know people who know him and they all say he's really a sweetheart. But distant and aloof at times as well. I've yet to meet him, but I will.


edit to say that that sounded really stalker-ish . I didn't mean it that way. I just know I'll meet him soon.
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