http://www.youtube.com/wa...3QM416-Qho

Anyone else like this song?

Love it!

Thank for the reminder.

this song is a classic!!!! Love this song.

Icicle said:

fuck yeah! It makes me horny

Hell ya!

LQ

great song

but her vibe doesn't match the vibe of the song.

Icicle said:

I love this song....incidently, she is the same Sylvia that started Sugarhill Records, the Sugar Hill Gang and was part of the duo, Mickey & Sylvia who sang, "Love is Strange", in the late 60's

you can't find love on a one-way street
it takes two to tango
it takes two to even compete

a very sexy,sultry song from the early 70s.I bet Diana Ross would have loved to record this song first.I could see her cooing her way through it.

SoulAlive said:

There you are, what took you so long?

Yeah, this song would have been perfect for her. Speaking of Ross, i was just wondering what it would have been like if she didn`t leave Motown in the early 80s.
I like her RCA albums too, but i think she could have done much better with the motown team behind her.

Just saying...

Icicle said:

Yeah,I wonder how her career would have been if she had stayed with Motown? After the hugely successful,Chic-produced 'Diana' album,she left and went with RCA.If she had stayed with Motown,I bet they would have demanded that she work with Chic again.

SoulAlive said:

She did ask Niles and Bernard to produce her next albbum, they turned her down.

They were still upset with her and Motown after they went back and re-mixed the "Diana" album. Not to mention the diva attitude she gave them while working on the project.

She and Niles did work together on her "Working Overtime" album in 1989

musicman said:

I don't know why they were so upset.To be honest,I think she did the right thing by "remixing" the 'Diana' album.I heard the original version and it's not nearly as powerful as the remixed version.


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SoulAlive said:

I agree with you! Listening to the Chic mix, I can say that Motown did the right thing.
I love that album.
[Edited 11/23/06 12:44pm]

musicman said:

it's one of Diana's best albums.

SoulAlive said:

She actually tried to get them to produce her first RCA album. However, they wanted creative control, which she wasn`t willing to give up...

musicman said:

I didn`t see your reply before i posted musicman. I got my story from Taraborrelli`s book, but the author states that this is Ross` side of the story. Frankly, what you`re saying sounds more likely.

I just looked up in the book, and it doesn`t say anything else about RCA, but he writes about the "diana" album. Appareantly, Ross said "i proceeded to make the record more Diana Ross and far less Chic-ish." "Besides, they`ve only been in the business, what, two years? I believed my twenty years experience in show business would be of great value to the project"

Icicle said:

It's funny how people have the same stories and spin it different ways.
I will say the album is better the way it is.

THe Chic mix was more raw-- but the smoothed out released version is where it was at.

in the "Chic version" of the album,Diana's vocals sound flat,like she is bored...just going through the motions.It sounds like a demo...not as "polished" as the remixed version.

Hell Yeah!! Thats song is the BOMB!!

SoulAlive said:

Exactly!!! That's the word, Raw and flatter vocals.

musicman said:

Indeed! I can't believe that Chic (Bernard and Niles) were actually gonna release the album that way.

SoulAlive said:

In their book Everybody Dance: The Politcs of Disco, they said that it was a way nobody had heard Diana and they wanted to take it there.

There was a reson nobody had heard her like that before.

musicman said:

What album is this you guys are talking about?

Yes n'deed, Sylvias Pillow Talk and Minnie's Inside My Love...are panty droppers.

CinisterCee said:

Hey Cin, we're talking about Ms. Ross's "Diana" album and the Chic mix versus the Motown mix.

musicman said:

You know I SWORE I would buy this the next time I saw it in a store (I can't be arsed to special order) but I never saw it.

Didn't that deluxe version of Diana (1979) come out in like 2004?

shorttrini said:

And "Mickey" (of Mickey & Sylvia), is the Mickey Baker that wrote these 2 method books...



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Of all the guitarists who helped transform rhythm & blues into rock & roll, Mickey Baker is one of the very most important, ranking almost on the level of Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley. The reason he isn't nearly as well known as those legends is that a great deal of his work wasn't issued under his own name, but as a backing guitarist for many R&B and rock & roll musicians. Baker originally aspired to be a jazz musician, but turned to calypso, mambo, and then R&B, where the most work could be found. In the early and mid-'50s, he did countless sessions for Atlantic, King, RCA, Decca, and OKeh, playing on such classics as the Drifters' "Money Honey" and "Such a Night," Joe Turner's "Shake Rattle & Roll," Ruth Brown's "Mama, He Treats Your Daughter Mean," and Big Maybelle's "Whole Lot of Shakin' Going On." He also released a few singles under his own name, and made a Latin jazz-tinged solo album, Guitar Mambo. Baker's best work, though, was recorded as half of the duo Mickey & Sylvia. Their hit "Love Is Strange," as well as several other unknown but nearly equally strong tracks, featured Baker's keening, bluesy guitar riffs, which were gutsier and more piercing than most anything else around in the late '50s. Mickey & Sylvia split in the late '50s (though they recorded off and on until the middle of the next decade), and Baker recorded his best solo album, the all-instrumental The Wildest Guitar. In 1961, he took the male spoken part (usually assumed to be Ike Turner) on Ike & Tina Turner's first hit, "It's Gonna Work Out Fine." Shortly afterwards he moved to France, making a few hard-to-find solo records and working with a lot of French pop and rock performers, including Ronnie Bird, the best '60s French rock singer. He's recorded only sporadically since the mid-'60s.

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CinisterCee said:

Released a few years ago,the Deluxe Edition of Diana Ross' 1980 'Diana' album contains two versions of the album....the original version that was released in 1980,and the previously unreleased "Chic mix" version.

Niles Rodgers and Bernard Edwards of Chic produced this album,but when it was finished,Diana and her engineer took the recordings and remixed it.They felt that it sounded too much like a "Chic album" and they also felt that Diana's vocals were buried too deeply in the mix.So they remixed the album without even telling Bernard and Niles.When they found out about this,Niles and Bernard were pissed.On this Deluxe Edition,you get the chance to hear the original (remixed) album that was released back then,and the never-before-heard "Chic mix",the version that Niles and Bernard intended to release back then.

CinisterCee said:

Yeah, like 2003/2004. It's worth getting the deluxe version to hear both miexs and the second cd of rarities.