ThePunisher said:

you guys have to try and understand where i am coming from. i'm actually married to a white person so obviously i have no problem with interacial relationships but i guess i'm pissed off that darker skinned women are not considered attractive or sexy. i think i'm an attractive person, with a good figure and dresses nicely, yet i walk down the streets and i'm invisible to black men. i could walk down the street naked and i swear not one head would turn yet they want to call me a sell out because i'm dating outside of my race. meanwhile they don't want me either. damn, i know i'm sounding pretty pised but this is a heavy subject!

brownsugar said:

oh we have been totally brainwashed when it comes to skin color. it's really sad but unfortunately Kanye only admitted something taht most people already think anyway.

theAudience said:

Exactly. That's why I mostly stay out of this forum.

thought i was going to stay out of this subject because it was dealing about "race" but i had to say a few words. First of all, If Kayne was smart he would realize that if you look and search through your family and its origins, we are all "mixed" so to speak, and also its not so much his comment of "mutts" is offensive but i think the problem is just the way women are viewed in general especially in Kayne's genre meaning Hip-Hop and also Latin Reggaeton artists can fall into this category too, since they are exploiting for "their" own gain. I mean be serious, do alot of Rap/Reggae artists think other guys watch their videos to hear what they are saying? no they are looking to see what Video girl they got for this video, and Kayne is no better. So his term "mutt" really not offensive, since i have heard Jessica Alba and Mariah Carey refer to themselves as "mutts", but its more his view of women, and his lack of history knowledge which shows we are all a product of the Human Race.

BlaqueKnight said:

But its par for the course, everyone says the same about Elton and recently people wanted to lynch him because he said "religion should be banned", so its the price of fame, Kayne knows exactly what he is doing he is not a victim of the media by any means.

FruitToAttractBears said:

Chuck D Kanye West ain't... This is no suprise but I think this may have been taken out of context ya'll. Hip Hop that I know and love is R.E.A.L. and I have 2 do a lil more research 2 C if this is REALLY True...

BlaqueKnight said:

I'd love to know in what context "mutt" used to refer to a biracial women would have us all nodding our heads and going "Ah yes, that Kayne fellow is on point"...

but anway, I do think people are over-reacting to this comment. As a biracial woman I can honestly say I wasn't offended at all by this. It speaks of more of what an idiot Kanye is than anything about me other others like me. I dunno, maybe reddish-brown skin is thicker than the average, but I have no problem brushing this off as dumbassery and don't see why others can't as well.

FruitToAttractBears said:

Hey, I didn't say all that. Kanye seems to have an articulation and forethought problem. Like I said, he needs a filter before he speaks. Still, this is a far cry from racism. If people want to see a racist, all they have to do is look no further than Michael "Kramer" Richards. That fucker is a shining example.

dancerella said:

Maybe you need to walk down some different streets, 'cause there are black guys out there who will find you hot as hell. It's a big world out there...

dancerella said:

Dancerella, are you from England? Because in the UK, many black guys will not be seen dead with a black girl period, let alone a dark, skin black girl.

I mean I have no problem with interracial relationships either, but there is something that is happening in the UK that seems odd, you rarely see black couples together, anymore. And as you have said black men still have a problem with black women dating outside their race, ironically, even though they wouldn't date them, theirselves.

Kanye has a big mouth, but somehow or another he always hits a nerve.

theAudience said:

This is true.

this brings up an interesting point> Do you financially support artist who, in your opinion, have made comments that you feel are insulting to you and yours? For example, I really liked Guns and Roses before the whole "One in a Million" thing. From that point, no matter how much I liked their music I could not buy it. Same w/ Pantera. Same w/ the Doors. Hell, the same with Kramer(bad Kramer ) If Kanye really said this, will you still buy his music ( if you were a fan to begin with?)

i try not to. i don't always keep up with their personal info so it's sometime hard for me to tell, but yeah something like this- i don't buy it. i went off rap/hip-hop in general in the early 90's bcos i refused to spend $10-15 to have someone swear at me and call me derogatory names. it hasn't changed much. i feel the same way about a lot of the "cock-rock" and "horror rock ala marylin manson" stuff.....

as a woman i just can't endorse a lot of it.

Dancerella, are you from England? Because in the UK, many black guys will not be seen dead with a black girl period, let alone a dark, skin black girl.

I mean I have no problem with interracial relationships either, but there is something that is happening in the UK that seems odd, you rarely see black couples together, anymore. And as you have said black men still have a problem with black women dating outside their race, ironically, even though they wouldn't date them, theirselves.

Kanye has a big mouth, but somehow or another he always hits a nerve.[/quote]
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I find the above very interesting indeed. I guess this means that black people are racists too? Who knew?! And, racist against their own people as well. Who knew?! Geez, by the posts on this site, I thought only white people were racists

kisscamille said:

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I find the above very interesting indeed. I guess this means that black people are racists too? Who knew?! And, racist against their own people as well. Who knew?! Geez, by the posts on this site, I thought only white people were racists [/quote]

It's not so much that they are racist, it's more to do with status. I am not refering to all black men with white women, because I do believe you can find true love outside your own race. However, over the last 10 years it's almost like if you are a really, successful black man, you just can't be with a black woman.

whatsgoingon said:

It's not so much that they are racist, it's more to do with status. I am not refering to all black men with white women, because I do believe you can find true love outside your own race. However, over the last 10 years it's almost like if you are a really, successful black man, you just can't be with a black woman.[/quote]

Well, I don't wish to argue, but IMHO this is still racist. You can call it a status thing if you like, but I don't completely agree with that.

kisscamille said:

You obviously have no idea what racism is. Please cease posting on topics you are ignorant of.

BlaqueKnight said:

Just the response I was expecting. Very typical indeed.

kisscamille said:

Typical of what? A blaque man? Well, if its the typical response, that means you've heard it before. Why don't you get a clue then? Trust, you are not informed enough to go at it with me on this topic. Since you are Canadian and probably not all that well versed in American history, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but if you want to go there, feel free...

Next Kanye plans to send white people to concentration camps!!!

He's such an asshole!

kisscamille said:

And it's very typical that you would post to a thread on race on the Org. Not only do not know what you are talking about (saying black people who date exclusively outside their race are racist) but you added an insult to people where no one insulted you. You don't dig black people. We get it. I'd have an iota of respect for you if you just admitted it.

Stymie said:

Oh please! Get over yourself. You don't know me at all. Saying that I don't dig black people is an complete fabrication. What if I told you I had a black child? [Flame snipped: DON'T - BananaCologne]

BlaqueKnight said:

Unfortunatly, it's true. A few people on another board that I post on read the article and confirmed that he said it. If you have a subscription to Essence, you get it before it hits the stands.

PurpleCharm said:

Still, his comments were stupid, not racist. Racist wouldn't even be the correct term since he said nothing with a negative intent AND he was expressing his admiration for biracial women regardless of how uncouth it came off. Hypersensitivity and ignorance are a bad combination. Here is [the deal; when Kanye speaks, he speaks to the hood. The Chi-town 42nd street brotha comes out in him. He's speaking to an audience that knows what he's talking about (Essence magazine's primary target is a black audience). The people most upset are WHITE PEOPLE who don't understand where he's coming from and hypersensitive black people. Since he has made a reputation of making an ass out of himself, there are many people who simply want to bash him but calling him RACIST is too far; especially considering some of the sources using the term.

kisscamille said:

You know what? I woudln't believe for two seconds you had a black child and you know why? Because you would not use the 'n' word, nor want to know why you couldn't use that word when black people say it. Nor would you continuously post to race threads and insult black people constantly. I would report the flame but if the mods don't do anything about the way you act on these boards, they won't do anything about you flaming me.

Stymie said:

You are entitled to believe whatever you like. Have a nice day Stymie!

Ok folks, this ends now.