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Printablemanthevan said: dag said: But that was live, wasn´t it? And it ain´t even that long ago. that performance is lovely but it is almost 10 years ago Yeah, but it´s still like one of the latest. He hasn´t almost permormed after that.....What did he do after that? Just the NY concerts...or was there more? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I think he's garbage these days..honestly he sounds too nasal to me like his nosejobs have fucked up his breathing
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I would tend to agree. Though I think he can still carry a tune, I suspect his best days are behind him. All those nose jobs couldn't have been good for his singing voice. One of the reasons Barbara Streisand never got a nose job was because she feared it would affect her singing. With all the work Michael has had done, he should be a mute by now... | |
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CalhounSq said: JasonStar said: Tell me Michael doesn't look tired, and I'm gonna bop you one.
Do her pits stink? He looks like he's vomiting Of course he is - he wishes that girl was a young boy. |
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as a child he had an amazing voice but the older he got the worse he sounded and no itslike he dont even really sing. | |
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khemseraph said: as a child he had an amazing voice but the older he got the worse he sounded and no itslike he dont even really sing.
Reverse that 
He sounds better with age IMO.  | |
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I think he's lost the passion he once had for music. I think his new passion is movies. If you read any of the interviews he's done in the past 8 years. When asked what we can expect from him in the future. He always says "i really want to make movies." I think his new passion is directing and writting movies. I feel that's where his heart is now. I'm not sure why he's making a new album, maybe he doesnt want his musical legacy to end with invincible, maybe he needs the money, maybe he feels he owes it to his fans. or maybe, hopefuly he's found his passion for music again. We'll see. | |
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P2daP said: I think he's lost the passion he once had for music. I think his new passion is movies. If you read any of the interviews he's done in the past 8 years. When asked what we can expect from him in the future. He always says "i really want to make movies." I think his new passion is directing and writting movies. I feel that's where his heart is now. I'm not sure why he's making a new album, maybe he doesnt want his musical legacy to end with invincible, maybe he needs the money, maybe he feels he owes it to his fans. or maybe, hopefuly he's found his passion for music again. We'll see.
If only he could direct a film and make the soundtrack be some kind of concept album, ala "Blood On The Dance Floor" meets Prince's "Batman" soundtrack. Now that would KICK! Surely he would have passion for his own movie's soundtrack, if movies were his new passion. Just a thought.  | |
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only mike knows what he will do in the next few years, but i think the world knows the next few years are absolutely crucial because if he does do another album it will probably be his last major album, it has to be absolutely killer.
i predict we will hear a much more mellow, organic michael on the next album, i think the dangerous/invincible type music is gone. There is talk that the next one will have a much more organic, raw sound with instumentation. He cant keep doing "unbreakable" type tracks in2 his 50s. | |
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TotalAlisa said: OF COURSE MICHAEL CAN SING... his voice is amazing... and i loveit....
I agree  TotalAlisa | |
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JasonStar said: khemseraph said: as a child he had an amazing voice but the older he got the worse he sounded and no itslike he dont even really sing.
Reverse that
He sounds better with age IMO. oh no he doesn't 
the closest he came to even SOUNDING like his old wonderful self was "Butterflies" but he grunts and yelps too damn much for me | |
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nurse said: TotalAlisa said: OF COURSE MICHAEL CAN SING... his voice is amazing... and i loveit....
I agree TotalAlisaMe too. MJ also looks great! I'm not a fanatic but I do see his greatness. He hasn't changed much in 15 years, the times have though and that was his downfall. I hope he returns to the spotlight bigtime. I watched his last performance, at the awards and under the circumstances I thought it was fine. I don't get it, why the poor bugger got such bad press for it. | |
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thedribbler said: nurse said: I agree TotalAlisaMe too. MJ also looks great! I'm not a fanatic but I do see his greatness. He hasn't changed much in 15 years, the times have though and that was his downfall. I hope he returns to the spotlight bigtime. I watched his last performance, at the awards and under the circumstances I thought it was fine. I don't get it, why the poor bugger got such bad press for it. Cus more and more people are being introduced to Michael with this mindset of "He is a terrible human being and he doesn't have talent." They weren't around for Thriller. Hell, they weren't even around for Dangerous. (I was at least around as a fan for Dangerous.) That being said, I can appreciate how talented Michael once was and could likely be again, if he wanted to bad enough. Michael had more talent in his little finger back in 1991 than Usher, JT and anyone doing pop these days has in their entire bodies. Period. If people were introduced to Michael as being a legend, or at the least, a talented performer, more people would come around to him, and not automatically hate on him. While I realize a lot of his weirdness factor was his own doing, nobody deserves the kind of shit the guy gets from the late night shows, the press and critics who can say he is guilty of horrible crimes, when they never saw it, and never even met him! Oh and the verdict was NOT GUILTY.  | |
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I was a young teeny bop when he came out with thriller, and that album just bowled me over. I'd already listened to off the wall a lot, which is a cool album in its own right. Thriller is more than thrilling!
What's been going on with MJ is character assasination on an unprecedented scale. We all lose out. Of couse MJ Suffers in much worse way though. Back in the day I was a big P fan, the press get an aggressive comparison thing going, And being so young, I felt I had to choose sides. P won, for me. I knew it was a matter o' time before everyone else agrees. MJ was my pet hate. MJ refused to come down to the masses level. When they wanted dull uniformity MJ remained very aloof and very eccentric. This earned my respect. I was terribly surprised to see the hate campaign go so far. And will it ever end? I hope so! | |
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He can still sing pretty well.
As many of you stated, his studio voice for songs like "Butterflies" and "Speechless" is impeccable. I grew up on MJ and his voice was as good then as it is now. I do agree however that when he performs live, the voice does falter a bit, but maybe that can be attributed to different things. What they are, I don't know. "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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 I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Although I am not a huge fan, I will say Michael has always been able to sing, it was his killer voice and JAMES BROWN(RIP) moves that got the Jacksons to be stars in the first place. Ok Jermaine had some talent and Janet was too young, but Michael was the real star of that group (Until Janet came along and had star quality too).
Michael has always been the greatest dancer of the post 1945 period too. But I think everyone has off days and Michael does too, also you have to realise he hasnt done any real great music since 1995 (as one person said Invincible was going through the motions) whereas songs like U r not alone and Scream have got all the Jackson magic there at least. And as the killer I have to say Michael Jackson was a better singer and dancer than Prince. Thriller and Bad are easily the two best black pop albums of all time. 17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince | |
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Yes,he can sing, can you? | |
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Yes | |
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People,He can do it  he can everything ! I think he's still 1 of the best !!!viva de la jazz | |
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thedribbler said: nurse said: I agree TotalAlisaMe too. MJ also looks great! I'm not a fanatic but I do see his greatness. He hasn't changed much in 15 years, the times have though and that was his downfall. I hope he returns to the spotlight bigtime. I watched his last performance, at the awards and under the circumstances I thought it was fine. I don't get it, why the poor bugger got such bad press for it. YES, Michael can STILL sing. People(fans and non-fans) are going to have to realize that Michael's voice has changed. We have been used to hearing this man sing since he was a kid and some people still want him to sound as he did during his J5 days. That is not only impossible, it is totally unrealistic. I don't know of any other entertainer whose voice has been scrutinized as much as Michael's. This man has been singing professionally since he was a child and it is only natural that he is not going to sound the same as he did when he was singing lead with his brothers. Get over it.As Michael has gotten older his voice has gotten deeper and rawer. However, Seth Riggs, "Voice Coach To The Stars"(MJ, Prince, Barbara Streisand, etc.) said that Michael has ALWAYS been able to sing TWO octaves LOWER than he actually sings on recordings. I have always wanted him to sing in his natural range and hope that he utilizes that range more in his up-coming album. IF people can realize that this man's voice is NOT going to sound the same as it did 30-40 years ago, maybe you can enjoy his music and stop trying to turn it into something negative. His last full studio album,"Invincible" showcased what a wonderful voice the man STILL has. Songs such as "Butterflies", YRMY, "Break of Dawn", "Heaven Can Wait", "Whatever Happens", "Speechless" had even the most jaded radio DJ's proclaiming how great Michael's voice is. Michael's success was not manufactured. He is a TRUE talent, and that talent is still amazing. I can't wait to hear what he has in store for us with his new album. It will be a breath of fresh air in these stale and boring musical times. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: CalhounSq said: Do her pits stink? He looks like he's vomiting Of course he is - he wishes that girl was a young boy. Michael was holding his mic close to his mouth. Btw, this performance of TWYMF was hot. Micheal and the woman in the photo had a lot of chemistry while performing together and they seemed to be enjoying themselves during the performance. When he performed the same song with Britney, the same chemistry was not there for several reasons. First, Britney can't sing worth a damn. Second, Michael had to virtually "tell"(motion to her) when to move, where to move etc. He was having to direct her as they were singing. Having said that, there performance was still good, it just didn't have the same charisma and natural "feel goodness" that it did when he performed with the woman in the above photo. | |
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JasonStar said: thedribbler said: Me too. MJ also looks great! I'm not a fanatic but I do see his greatness. He hasn't changed much in 15 years, the times have though and that was his downfall. I hope he returns to the spotlight bigtime. I watched his last performance, at the awards and under the circumstances I thought it was fine. I don't get it, why the poor bugger got such bad press for it. Cus more and more people are being introduced to Michael with this mindset of "He is a terrible human being and he doesn't have talent." They weren't around for Thriller. Hell, they weren't even around for Dangerous. (I was at least around as a fan for Dangerous.) That being said, I can appreciate how talented Michael once was and could likely be again, if he wanted to bad enough. Michael had more talent in his little finger back in 1991 than Usher, JT and anyone doing pop these days has in their entire bodies. Period. If people were introduced to Michael as being a legend, or at the least, a talented performer, more people would come around to him, and not automatically hate on him. While I realize a lot of his weirdness factor was his own doing, nobody deserves the kind of shit the guy gets from the late night shows, the press and critics who can say he is guilty of horrible crimes, when they never saw it, and never even met him! Oh and the verdict was NOT GUILTY. BRAVO! BRAVURA!! BRAVISSIMO!!! I applaud everything that was said in the previous post. NOBODY deserves the shit that Michael is receiving. These late night creeps and those in the media and industry that bash him treat him worst than a mass murderer. The fact that they are have no proof of their assertions only makes it that much more disgusting. I swear I truly do not know how he continues to be as strong as he is. Can you imagine how someone with a much weaker mindset would be handling this? You can certainly bet that they would have committed suicide by now. Look at Cobain and others who couldn't handle even 1/10th of the pressure that Michael has had to go through. People say it is own doing and I totally disagree. His "appearance" should NOT be a pre-requisite for the bashing he receives. His "difference"(not the so-called "norm") is NOT a cause for the hate that these creeps dish out. His honesty, naiveness, kindness and trust have been his greatest downfalls. He trusts people too damn much and has been too kind to people, and look what it has gotten him. These bashers know that Michael is not a "molester". Most are just the weak-minded, band-wagon types who don't have the guts to go against the "grain." They are too afraid of not being accepted by their peers, and that is sad. My respect and support for this man only increases by the day and that has everything to do with his strength, his determination and the way that he handles himself through all of the bullshit that is thrown at him. If people want to call that respect and support for MJ "fanaticism", then that's THEIR problem. The verdict was NOT GUILTY, but we didn't need that verdict to know that Michael Jackson was already INNOCENT. [Edited 12/26/06 13:04pm] | |
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JasonStar said: khemseraph said: as a child he had an amazing voice but the older he got the worse he sounded and no itslike he dont even really sing.
Reverse that
He sounds better with age IMO. i think that the way he sounded as a kid ..his voice was so strong that u would think he would grow up to have a voice like say teddy p or luther,but he just doesnt sound as good as an adult.IMO. | |
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Can't really say.All I ever c him do is lip sync... | |
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COMPUTERBLUE1984 said: I do agree however that when he performs live, the voice does falter a bit, but maybe that can be attributed to different things. What they are, I don't know.
The concerts are just too long to sing and dance like he does. He was able to pull it off in his twenties, not anymore. Not even during the 90s, The Dangerous Tour footage I've watched on youtube is sometimes quite bad - the show had a lot of breaks during it, but he would have needed even more. Hence the lipsyncing (altough it really is no acceptable excuse). For some odd reason he always sucked performing "Human Nature" live, even during the 80s tours. Also, I don't think he ever really learnt a good microphone technique, he's always moving it quite slapdashly because of the way he moves - and those head-set microphones are just terrible for breath control, maybe he realized they aren't really working for him. You have to remember however that what we are hearing on the recorded live footage is quite different from what the audience is really hearing and how Michael himself and the band hears it. Loud volumes compensate for so much, and also make it harder to sing. He is, let's not forget, performing on stadiums. It was a lot easier to sing perfectly on note during his club tour days. | |
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dag said: But that was live, wasn´t it? And it ain´t even that long ago. It wasn't live.
And neither was the tribute song to Sammy Davis, Jr. | |
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skyecute said: JasonStar said: Cus more and more people are being introduced to Michael with this mindset of "He is a terrible human being and he doesn't have talent." They weren't around for Thriller. Hell, they weren't even around for Dangerous. (I was at least around as a fan for Dangerous.) That being said, I can appreciate how talented Michael once was and could likely be again, if he wanted to bad enough. Michael had more talent in his little finger back in 1991 than Usher, JT and anyone doing pop these days has in their entire bodies. Period. If people were introduced to Michael as being a legend, or at the least, a talented performer, more people would come around to him, and not automatically hate on him. While I realize a lot of his weirdness factor was his own doing, nobody deserves the kind of shit the guy gets from the late night shows, the press and critics who can say he is guilty of horrible crimes, when they never saw it, and never even met him! Oh and the verdict was NOT GUILTY. BRAVO! BRAVURA!! BRAVISSIMO!!! I applaud everything that was said in the previous post. NOBODY deserves the shit that Michael is receiving. These late night creeps and those in the media and industry that bash him treat him worst than a mass murderer. The fact that they are have no proof of their assertions only makes it that much more disgusting. I swear I truly do not know how he continues to be as strong as he is. Can you imagine how someone with a much weaker mindset would be handling this? You can certainly bet that they would have committed suicide by now. Look at Cobain and others who couldn't handle even 1/10th of the pressure that Michael has had to go through. People say it is own doing and I totally disagree. His "appearance" should NOT be a pre-requisite for the bashing he receives. His "difference"(not the so-called "norm") is NOT a cause for the hate that these creeps dish out. His honesty, naiveness, kindness and trust have been his greatest downfalls. He trusts people too damn much and has been too kind to people, and look what it has gotten him. These bashers know that Michael is not a "molester". Most are just the weak-minded, band-wagon types who don't have the guts to go against the "grain." They are too afraid of not being accepted by their peers, and that is sad. My respect and support for this man only increases by the day and that has everything to do with his strength, his determination and the way that he handles himself through all of the bullshit that is thrown at him. If people want to call that respect and support for MJ "fanaticism", then that's THEIR problem. The verdict was NOT GUILTY, but we didn't need that verdict to know that Michael Jackson was already INNOCENT. [Edited 12/26/06 13:04pm]  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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it's so intresting to me that people who follows, or are fans of prince, compare him to michael jackson, but nobody who follows mike compares him to prince, or nobody cause they feel he is the best.....bottom line nobody dead, or living is bigger, than michael jackson., not prince or no one, nobody draws attention when he steps out in public, but what i'm saying is quit talking about michael jackson, there are those who claim they can't stand him, but yet their always watching,and are behind the door-in the closet mike freaks....can he sing?? this can't, or couldn't be asked by no brother, or sister, it's always those who really don't know, asking futile things like, can he sing, asking can he sing, is really like asking can prince sing ??? both of these brothers are super-bad, and they respect one anothers art, so why can't the follows of these two greats, become congruent...?? it's really like fighting over nothing, your mother says 5+2 is 7, well mine says that 4+3 is 7, they're both the same (great artistst), just like so many others!!!
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