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Reply #30 posted 11/19/06 8:42am

mikek1

FUCK James brown!

Damn he beat his wife badly! With lead pipes, shot at her, threatened to murder her!

He is skum!

http://www.womensenews.or.../aid/1706/

http://observer.guardian....49,00.html
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Reply #31 posted 11/19/06 11:48am

KidOmega

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mikek1 said:

FUCK James brown!

Damn he beat his wife badly! With lead pipes, shot at her, threatened to murder her!

He is skum!

http://www.womensenews.or.../aid/1706/

http://observer.guardian....49,00.html
[Edited 11/19/06 8:47am]



"skum"? he must have beaten you in the head with a lead pipe too, illiterate fool.
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Reply #32 posted 11/19/06 1:12pm

mikek1

KidOmega said:

mikek1 said:

FUCK James brown!

Damn he beat his wife badly! With lead pipes, shot at her, threatened to murder her!

He is skum!

http://www.womensenews.or.../aid/1706/

http://observer.guardian....49,00.html
[Edited 11/19/06 8:47am]



"skum"? he must have beaten you in the head with a lead pipe too, illiterate fool.


illiterate? lol lol

Do you not know what skum is?
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Reply #33 posted 11/19/06 1:15pm

KidOmega

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mikek1 said:

KidOmega said:




"skum"? he must have beaten you in the head with a lead pipe too, illiterate fool.


illiterate? lol lol

Do you not know what skum is?



i do. but i also know how to spell it.
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Reply #34 posted 11/19/06 1:19pm

mikek1

KidOmega said:

mikek1 said:



illiterate? lol lol

Do you not know what skum is?



i do. but i also know how to spell it.


yes so do i.

There is a u.k film called SKUM but you wouldn't know about that, would you?
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Reply #35 posted 11/19/06 1:23pm

KidOmega

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mikek1 said:

KidOmega said:




i do. but i also know how to spell it.


yes so do i.

There is a u.k film called SKUM but you wouldn't know about that, would you?


no, i wouldn't. but presumably you weren't discussing a U.K. film when you mis-spelled the word.
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Reply #36 posted 11/19/06 4:16pm

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Harlepolis said:

Lyn Collins & Marva Whitney talked about his possessiveness many times.

Said that he'd tap their phones and hire some people to track them down where ever they went.

But Tammi Terrell had it rough the most with him(And David Ruffin too) she got some nasty mental, physical and verbal abuse from those men.

These ain't hardly news though. Soul Brother #.1 was and still is notorious for his rough ways with women(and his band too).

Damn near everybody who worked with him endured a love/hate relationship with him.
[Edited 11/19/06 8:29am]


I think Bootsy Collins had it THE worst when JB fined him for every mistake. The only problem with that kind of punishment was that Bootsy didn't give a damn. THIS bassist was musically loose by nature. Playing tight (JB's style) wasn't Bootsy's style full-time (despite that he knew how). But getting fired by JB was the best thing for Bootsy because by then, he was hired by George Clinton and the rest was still funk history regardless. cool
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Reply #37 posted 11/20/06 12:43am

Harlepolis

TonyVanDam said:

Harlepolis said:

Lyn Collins & Marva Whitney talked about his possessiveness many times.

Said that he'd tap their phones and hire some people to track them down where ever they went.

But Tammi Terrell had it rough the most with him(And David Ruffin too) she got some nasty mental, physical and verbal abuse from those men.

These ain't hardly news though. Soul Brother #.1 was and still is notorious for his rough ways with women(and his band too).

Damn near everybody who worked with him endured a love/hate relationship with him.
[Edited 11/19/06 8:29am]


I think Bootsy Collins had it THE worst when JB fined him for every mistake. The only problem with that kind of punishment was that Bootsy didn't give a damn. THIS bassist was musically loose by nature. Playing tight (JB's style) wasn't Bootsy's style full-time (despite that he knew how). But getting fired by JB was the best thing for Bootsy because by then, he was hired by George Clinton and the rest was still funk history regardless. cool


Little Richard was as strict to his band b4 he became a preacher. He put his folks ON LINE all the time!

But folks think he has a loose attitude becoz of his flamboyant nature. Not true hmph!
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Reply #38 posted 11/20/06 11:09am

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Harlepolis said:

TonyVanDam said:



I think Bootsy Collins had it THE worst when JB fined him for every mistake. The only problem with that kind of punishment was that Bootsy didn't give a damn. THIS bassist was musically loose by nature. Playing tight (JB's style) wasn't Bootsy's style full-time (despite that he knew how). But getting fired by JB was the best thing for Bootsy because by then, he was hired by George Clinton and the rest was still funk history regardless. cool


Little Richard was as strict to his band b4 he became a preacher. He put his folks ON LINE all the time!

But folks think he has a loose attitude becoz of his flamboyant nature. Not true hmph!



could have been worse. could have been working for Ike Turner biggrin
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Reply #39 posted 11/20/06 3:24pm

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KidOmega said:

Harlepolis said:



Little Richard was as strict to his band b4 he became a preacher. He put his folks ON LINE all the time!

But folks think he has a loose attitude becoz of his flamboyant nature. Not true hmph!



could have been worse. could have been working for Ike Turner biggrin


Ike Turner was a pimp from hell! Long before Tina, he may have treated all the women in the band like hoes.
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Reply #40 posted 11/20/06 5:57pm

Jboogiee

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minneapolisgenius said:

mikek1 said:




oh sorry i thought he talking about page's past.lol lol biggrin

Oh I thought it was about how he looks these days. biggrin


Yes I was just talking about looks!
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Reply #41 posted 11/21/06 4:59am

mikek1

TonyVanDam said:

KidOmega said:




could have been worse. could have been working for Ike Turner biggrin


Ike Turner was a pimp from hell! Long before Tina, he may have treated all the women in the band like hoes.


He did!
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Reply #42 posted 11/21/06 7:54am

Harlepolis

mikek1 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Ike Turner was a pimp from hell! Long before Tina, he may have treated all the women in the band like hoes.


He did!


nod

He suppoesdly dragged one of the Ikettes through her hair in some hotel's hall NAKED. Tina was like "Ike, you oughta be ashamed of yourself", TOO LATE for that sister lol

There're uglier encounters. But my fave was when he shot @ those rednecks who were following his tourbus.

The guy didn't give a nickle of a fuck.
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Reply #43 posted 11/21/06 9:01am

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Look at David Gilmour, he looks like a nutsack.

Why do people continue to nag on the looks of black celebs?

James Brown is OLD, how else is he supposed to look?
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Reply #44 posted 11/21/06 9:04am

MrSoulpower

TonyVanDam said:

PurpleKnight said:

Why are you acting so sad about a total piece of garbage? He deserves worse. The guy beat the shit out of women.


CORRECTION: ....only white women. But it's very wrong in general (if the rumors are true).


Not true. He beat women of all color.
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Reply #45 posted 11/21/06 9:07am

MrSoulpower

Harlepolis said:

Lyn Collins & Marva Whitney talked about his possessiveness many times.

Said that he'd tap their phones and hire some people to track them down where ever they went.

But Tammi Terrell had it rough the most with him(And David Ruffin too) she got some nasty mental, physical and verbal abuse from those men.

These ain't hardly news though. Soul Brother #.1 was and still is notorious for his rough ways with women(and his band too).

Damn near everybody who worked with him endured a love/hate relationship with him.
[Edited 11/19/06 8:29am]


When Marva Whitney left brown in 1969, he pushed her into the elevator in the hotel and started kicking and beating her. He then pulled her in his room,stood over her, kicked her, and put a gun to her head. Marva thought that she was finished.
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Reply #46 posted 11/21/06 9:10am

MrSoulpower

But to stay on topic, I can confirm that JB isn't doing good. He had prostate cancer surgery for the second time early this year, which is why he lost all that wait. He struggles with diabetis and arthritis to the point that at some shows of the recent tour he barely could walk and had to be taken off-stage in a wheelchair (that happened in Japan this spring).

However, the man is 73 years old and has been working hard all of his life, abusing his body with work and, in the later years, with drugs. Considering this type of abuse, he's doing better than one would expect.
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Reply #47 posted 11/21/06 9:29am

Harlepolis

MrSoulpower said:

Harlepolis said:

Lyn Collins & Marva Whitney talked about his possessiveness many times.

Said that he'd tap their phones and hire some people to track them down where ever they went.

But Tammi Terrell had it rough the most with him(And David Ruffin too) she got some nasty mental, physical and verbal abuse from those men.

These ain't hardly news though. Soul Brother #.1 was and still is notorious for his rough ways with women(and his band too).

Damn near everybody who worked with him endured a love/hate relationship with him.
[Edited 11/19/06 8:29am]


When Marva Whitney left brown in 1969, he pushed her into the elevator in the hotel and started kicking and beating her. He then pulled her in his room,stood over her, kicked her, and put a gun to her head. Marva thought that she was finished.


I'm NOT shocked at all!

Whats more brutal though, is they(his ex-band members) still have some affection for him after all the abuse they took from him. I don't know if its pussy control or hypontize, to this VERY day he put some deep fear into their asses.

Duke Ellington manipulated his band with mind games, setting them up against each other to out-do each other on stage, but thats. He didn't care if their necks were on the railroad, as long as they're outta the stage/record session, he goes on his own way. But James took it waaaaay abroad,,,,he used ALL his power to control his band, in every aspect.

Prince used a somewhat similar tactic,,,but unlike Prince, James was from the old school breed of black people; tough, unemotional and downright brutal.
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Reply #48 posted 11/21/06 9:32am

BeatsPerMinute

I didn't knew JB was like this! confused
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Reply #49 posted 11/21/06 9:37am

MrSoulpower

Harlepolis said:


I'm NOT shocked at all!

Whats more brutal though, is they(his ex-band members) still have some affection for him after all the abuse they took from him. I don't know if its pussy control or hypontize, to this VERY day he put some deep fear into their asses.

Duke Ellington manipulated his band with mind games, setting them up against each other to out-do each other on stage, but thats. He didn't care if their necks were on the railroad, as long as they're outta the stage/record session, he goes on his own way. But James took it waaaaay abroad,,,,he used ALL his power to control his band, in every aspect.

Prince used a somewhat similar tactic,,,but unlike Prince, James was from the old school breed of black people; tough, unemotional and downright brutal.


Yes, it's true that many band members, especially the women like Lyn and Marva still have (or had, in Lyn's case) love for him. It's a love/hate relationship, and especially Marva doesn't make a secret of it. I recommend you read her autobiography which will be released in 2007, which really shows a very deep and honest, yet respectful insight into her relationship with Brown. And what you say is true, up to this day Marva believes that Brown had and still has her phone wired.

There is other people, however, who hate him to this day. His Funky Drummers Clyde Stubblefield and Jab'o Starks, have no respect for him on any level, musically nor on the human side.

One of the main explainations I have for Brown's mistreatment of women is the fact that his mother left him and his father when he was very little, so he grew up feeling that women cannot be trusted and don't deserve to be treated respectfully.
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Reply #50 posted 11/21/06 9:48am

Harlepolis

MrSoulpower said:

Harlepolis said:


I'm NOT shocked at all!

Whats more brutal though, is they(his ex-band members) still have some affection for him after all the abuse they took from him. I don't know if its pussy control or hypontize, to this VERY day he put some deep fear into their asses.

Duke Ellington manipulated his band with mind games, setting them up against each other to out-do each other on stage, but thats. He didn't care if their necks were on the railroad, as long as they're outta the stage/record session, he goes on his own way. But James took it waaaaay abroad,,,,he used ALL his power to control his band, in every aspect.

Prince used a somewhat similar tactic,,,but unlike Prince, James was from the old school breed of black people; tough, unemotional and downright brutal.


Yes, it's true that many band members, especially the women like Lyn and Marva still have (or had, in Lyn's case) love for him. It's a love/hate relationship, and especially Marva doesn't make a secret of it. I recommend you read her autobiography which will be released in 2007, which really shows a very deep and honest, yet respectful insight into her relationship with Brown. And what you say is true, up to this day Marva believes that Brown had and still has her phone wired.

There is other people, however, who hate him to this day. His Funky Drummers Clyde Stubblefield and Jab'o Starks, have no respect for him on any level, musically nor on the human side.

One of the main explainations I have for Brown's mistreatment of women is the fact that his mother left him and his father when he was very little, so he grew up feeling that women cannot be trusted and don't deserve to be treated respectfully.
[Edited 11/21/06 9:38am]


He grew up in a whorehouse too(if I'm not mistaken),,,another factor since I'm sure he saw ALL kinds of mistreatments of women in such a household.

Then again, thats life shrug
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Reply #51 posted 11/21/06 9:53am

MrSoulpower

Harlepolis said:


He grew up in a whorehouse too(if I'm not mistaken),,,another factor since I'm sure he saw ALL kinds of mistreatments of women in such a household.

Then again, thats life shrug


Yeah, I forgot .. Aunt Minnie's whorehouse ... you are right! cool
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Reply #52 posted 11/21/06 1:47pm

Shapeshifter

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mikek1 said:

KidOmega said:




i do. but i also know how to spell it.


yes so do i.

There is a u.k film called SKUM but you wouldn't know about that, would you?


Actually, the UK film you refer to is called "SCum" - 1979, starred a young Ray Winstone as a borstal boy.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0079871/

No such film as "Skum". And you can't spell. wink
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Reply #53 posted 11/21/06 1:49pm

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Shapeshifter said:

mikek1 said:



yes so do i.

There is a u.k film called SKUM but you wouldn't know about that, would you?


Actually, the UK film you refer to is called "SCum" - 1979, starred a young Ray Winstone as a borstal boy.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0079871/

No such film as "Skum". And you can't spell. wink

lol
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Reply #54 posted 11/21/06 1:49pm

mikek1

Shapeshifter said:

mikek1 said:



yes so do i.

There is a u.k film called SKUM but you wouldn't know about that, would you?


Actually, the UK film you refer to is called "SCum" - 1979, starred a young Ray Winstone as a borstal boy.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0079871/

No such film as "Skum". And you can't spell. wink


Actually it's spelt skum but they changed it. It's just a way of describing a lowlife.
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Reply #55 posted 11/21/06 1:50pm

Shapeshifter

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mikek1 said:

FUCK James brown!

Damn he beat his wife badly! With lead pipes, shot at her, threatened to murder her!

He is skum!

http://www.womensenews.or.../aid/1706/

http://observer.guardian....49,00.html
[Edited 11/19/06 8:47am]



Bet you look like shit too when you hit 70, Mikok. wink

Anyway, what is it with you and James Brown? Sounds personal to me. What did he do? Steal your lunch money? lol
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Reply #56 posted 11/21/06 1:59pm

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mikek1 said:

Shapeshifter said:



Actually, the UK film you refer to is called "SCum" - 1979, starred a young Ray Winstone as a borstal boy.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0079871/

No such film as "Skum". And you can't spell. wink


Actually it's spelt skum but they changed it. It's just a way of describing a lowlife.



Absolute total and utter fucking bollocks! Scum was always called "Scum" and never spelt differently.

Scum was written by Roy Minton and directed by Alan Clarke as a BBC tv play in 1977. It was banned for being too realistic and got turned into a film of the same name. You're wrong and you can't spell. Get over it. wink
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Reply #57 posted 11/21/06 3:07pm

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Shapeshifter said:

mikek1 said:



Actually it's spelt skum but they changed it. It's just a way of describing a lowlife.



Absolute total and utter fucking bollocks! Scum was always called "Scum" and never spelt differently.

Scum was written by Roy Minton and directed by Alan Clarke as a BBC tv play in 1977. It was banned for being too realistic and got turned into a film of the same name. You're wrong and you can't spell. Get over it. wink
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thank you for picking up where i left off. he's too tedious for me. lol
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Reply #58 posted 11/22/06 4:22am

mikek1

Shapeshifter said:

mikek1 said:

FUCK James brown!

Damn he beat his wife badly! With lead pipes, shot at her, threatened to murder her!

He is skum!

http://www.womensenews.or.../aid/1706/

http://observer.guardian....49,00.html
[Edited 11/19/06 8:47am]



Bet you look like shit too when you hit 70, Mikok. wink


Anyway, what is it with you and James Brown? Sounds personal to me. What did he do? Steal your lunch money? lol
[Edited 11/21/06 13:55pm]


I didn't make thread! I've never made a James Brown thread.

Personal? I don't know ted bundy personally but he's still a piece of shit so is JB get over it. I work in music myself and i read alot of info and obtain alot of info so i can post comments based on this and see if anybody else is aware. If it offends you that i find artists who abuse others the lowest of the low then it speaks volumes for you and not me. I'm sickened by any injustice and abuse; it really bothers me so i apologise for this i cannot help it.

I never originally refered to the stupid movie. Come to manchester and see what real skum is! Many people would spell skum here with a k. It;s hardly important.
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Reply #59 posted 11/22/06 4:50am

PurpleCharm

KidOmega said:

mikek1 said:



yes so do i.

There is a u.k film called SKUM but you wouldn't know about that, would you?


no, i wouldn't. but presumably you weren't discussing a U.K. film when you mis-spelled the word.

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