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Reply #180 posted 11/17/06 6:35pm

Stymie

playme3121 said:

TheBoyfromtheBand said:



Class is when your buddy Prince shows up to promote his album on American Idol...and arrives only to perform and leave immediately after his performace...class is when you stand on stage in recognition of a song you wouldnt be a part of, and instead of singing like everyone else, you lick a lolipop...these cases define the class of Prince right?


actually those things are kinda cool. Prince is one bad MF, and those 2 situations prove it.
Some of his fans think that's cool and some think he was being disrespectful.If that had been anyone but Prince, we'd be on here right now discussing what an asshole that person wasw being.
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Reply #181 posted 11/17/06 7:59pm

lowkey

Cloudbuster said:

whatsgoingon said:



He moved on so well, that the whole of his life is a big mess. He can't even perform anymore, yet he can go to award shows to collect silly awards and soack yup the
hysteria that naive, deluded fans throw at him. Infact I think his brothers have moved on even better than he has, no one is going hysterical over them, but they are not being called "flops" either and they look 10 times more healthier and better looking he does, even though apart from Randy they are all older than him.


You're as boring and repetitive as the last three Janet albums.


like micheal fans can really diss janet....if i had a choice between making boring albums and talking about sex or looking like walking death and being viewed by many as a sexual predator i would rather be janet.
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Reply #182 posted 11/17/06 8:03pm

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meow85 said:

Yes, they do exist. And yes, it is possible to change skin formerly as dark as Michael's into the shade he's got now. But it's illegal -at least in this country -to prescribe that much for any reason. Even if he truly does have vitiligo, he would still need bleaching agents, because it does not affect that much of the skin, even in extreme cases. In which case, he would have had to have gone to several doctors or forged precriptions to get the required amount to match the patches without melanin.

Just thought I'd clear that up. smile


Yes, I saw a show on this recently that took place somewhere in Africa, I think. Many dark skinned women were buying these bleaching agents because they thought they were too dark, and wouldn't ever be able to find a husband with their dark skin. But the bleaching agents had terrible chemicals in them, that were ending up disfiguring their faces. Some groups over there are trying to create public awareness about their dangers and trying to tell women that dark skin is as beautiful as light skin.

My 9 year old daughter saw the Billie Jean video the other day, and said, "That's Michael Jackson?????" She had no idea he was black.



sigh It's so sad that people can't be happy with what they have. Michael used to be a pretty good-looking guy. Cute, even.

The problem with skin lighteners is that in most countries the production of them is not very strictly regulated, so they've got all sorts of dangerous -even cancer causing -chemicals in them. And they're not permanent. Any exposure to sunlight can cause the skin's natural melanin to re-grow. So as far as Michael goes, the possibility of skin cancer and the guarantee of getting some his natural darkness back are probably what's been keeping him out of the sun, and not some unspecified "sun allergy".

falloff @ the Billie Jean thing. I've got a buddy who's only just turned 18, and while he knew Michael is(was?) black, he'd never seen what he used to look like before I showed him the cover of Off the Wall.
[Edited 11/17/06 20:10pm]
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Reply #183 posted 11/18/06 2:27am

CalhounSq

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uPtoWnNY said:

whatsgoingon said:





The reason why I can't get over his looks is because I vividly remember him looking like the above. I mean compare yesterdays picture with the above and it's two different people and hasn't got much to do with age either; one pic looks all brown and warm and the other pic looks like something out of a vampire film, and yet is suppose to be the same person. Do people really expect that to be overlook, when its all part of his image. The only peeps that thinks he looks "so fine" are his pyscho fans, who probably hardly know anything about Michael pre-Thriller.

Secondly, even with a couple of nose Jobs there is no way MJ should end up looking like how he does today. Compared to 2001 he looks better now, but he still looks bloody awful.



AMEN!


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Reply #184 posted 11/18/06 4:09am

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i admit MJ does lip synch most if not all the time. But hasnt Prince done his share of lip synching also, and Prince doesnt really sound all that good live. Such as when he did the Webby awards per4mance, he was forgetting the words to "Dont Play Me" plus his voice was messing up when he sang at the "BRITS" awards. Chaka, herself, doenst sound too good anymore neither. I think it all has to do with age , as far as how u sound.


Age sure has it's part to play, though I disagree with you about Prince, he sounded better vocally than I have ever heard him on the ONA tour for instance, a very clear voice and no breaking up. I've not heard a very clear recording of the Webby performance, it was only recorded by bloggers digi-cams, so I don't think you can assess that one perfectly, it was a very loose, impromptu-type performance of a song he rarely plays, so I think he can be forgiven. He showed them all where to go, for instance, on the AI performance, and I can't hear his voice messing up on the Brits performance, he sounded great I thought...

MJ never used to have to lip-synch back in the day, as I've said before, I saw the Bad tour and it was live all the way and magnificient, I didn't miss his brothers at all. But towards the end of the 90s he certainly started relying on lip-synching, and he doesn't even do anywhere near as many concerts as Prince so there's no excuse of over-stretching his voice (other than, I suppose, he started out too early as a kid). Some say breathing through his reduced nose could be a problem, certainly his later records sound very nasal in places.

I definately wish he would do a live concert that was just him singing without relying on the whole spectacle of dancing and special effects, that would be cool, because he still has a charasmatic singing voice. One of my favourite tracks of his from the 90s is Give In To Me, it is one of the very few songs where he omits all the usual tics, hics, and whoos and just sings the song straight. I'd like to hear more in that plain, honest vein.
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Reply #185 posted 11/19/06 12:53am

skyecute

Cloudbuster said:

dag said:


He looks sooooo beautiful!!!!!


He looks healthier than he has in ages. If folk can't see that then they never will simply because their hatred for the man won't allow it.


I agree that Michael DOES look GREAT!. He looks confident, happy and healthy. His outfit is classy and he looks wonderful in that suit. All the people hating on him would do it regardless of if he didn't have the "white skin" aka vitiligo or he was brown again. People need to get over that shit about him going back to being "black". He IS black, albeit with vitiligo. Give that crap up, because he can never go back to being the color that he was. I am so sick of people using THAT as an EXCUSE to hate on the man. Again, Michael looks wonderful. The lights from the cameras emphasize this vitiligo in the still photos. When I watched live footage, he looks much different or not as colorless. I want to repeat that he looks GREAT!
[Edited 11/19/06 1:49am]
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Reply #186 posted 11/19/06 1:01am

skyecute

Cloudbuster said:

dag said:


He looks sooooo beautiful!!!!!


He looks healthier than he has in ages. If folk can't see that then they never will simply because their hatred for the man won't allow it.


I agree that Michael DOES look GREAT!. He looks confident, happy and healthy. His outfit is classy and he looks wonderful in that suit. All the people hating on him would do it regardless of if he didn't have the "white skin" aka vitiligo or he was brown again. People need to get over that shit about him going back to being "black". He IS black, albeit with vitiligo. Give that crap up, because he can never go back to being the color that he was. I am so sick of people using THAT as an EXCUSE to hate on the man. Again, Michael looks wonderful. The lights
from the cameras emphasize this vitiligo in the still photos. When I watched live
footage, he looks much different or not as colorless. I want to repeat that he looks GREAT! Before someone says that they have right to their own opinion; I just want to say that I also have a right to disagree with your opinion. Btw, the British press is pure shit. What a bunch of morons. Do they live to tear this man down? Of course, the American tabloid media is not much better. These "journalists" are an embarrassment to the profession of journalism. The fact that Michael is looking so healthy, confident and great after all that he has been through is testamnt to his determination, strength and resolve. I couldn't respect, support and love the man anymore than I do right now. I am more than proud to be his FAN.
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Reply #187 posted 11/19/06 1:10am

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The "journalist" had nothing to do with the wishy washy "performance" at the award show.
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #188 posted 11/19/06 1:23am

skyecute

pjh1972 said:

Some fans who were at the WMA are demanding their money back now -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...155968.stm
[Edited 11/17/06 2:13am]


I don't believe that for a moment. According to WMA organizers "not a single request has been made for a refund." This article sounds like all of the rest of the bullshit coming from these pathetic British tabloids. They will say anything and gullible people will eat it up. Btw, there were infiltrators posing as fans who bought tickets. Again, I don't believe any fan has demanded a refund. From what I have read from fan reports, they were very pleased with MJ's appearance on stage. Seriously, you can't believe anything that these tabloids are saying.
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Reply #189 posted 11/19/06 1:36am

skyecute

playme3121 said:

ElectricBlue said:

Yet more proof of why he lip syncs 99% of the time. When the mic is turned on it always sounds like this like total crap! Listen to him at the American Music Awards in 1988, he turned his mic on & it sounded like shit. Listen to him doing "Human Nature" in the Dangerous tour which is on VH1 allot. He sounded like total shit. Face it you dont lip sync basically all the time if your not trying to hide something! The something is He Cant Sing! He is at best a studio musician. He needs to do 50 takes for each verse, if anything sounds decent, they keep it & then (copy & paste) from that point forward. When you listen back it sounds like he did it all in one take! WE all know Recording Business now, it isnt some amazing process anymore to the public. But they have been doing this forever. So has Michael.

Michael's ego is so big he would put his own name in Google.
http://news.google.com/ne...earch+News

Look at everyones opinion. They all know he cant sing. He knows it too! If can really sing, then we will all see in his Next Performance,him singing 100% live, no tricks, nothing.

He knows it. We know it. Now it is time to prove everyone wrong.

psssst...

He wont! lol He will lip sync yet again. If he could really sing this is the time to prove it Mr. Milli Vinilli of 2007 (or should I say since you have been Solo)

He knows now, Turn the mic on and prove you should be watch outside of your sexual behavior and the trainwreck factor.
[Edited 11/16/06 14:44pm]



i admit MJ does lip synch most if not all the time. But hasnt Prince done his share of lip synching also, and Prince doesnt really sound all that good live. Such as when he did the Webby awards per4mance, he was forgetting the words to "Dont Play Me" plus his voice was messing up when he sang at the "BRITS" awards. Chaka, herself, doenst sound too good anymore neither. I think it all has to do with age , as far as how u sound.
[Edited 11/16/06 14:50pm]


The problem is not that Michael can't sing-he can; it's that his voice is not the same as it was. Michael's voice is now rawer and deeper. Of course, some fans(newer) and non-fans can't ACCEPT that fact. I think that is the reason that Michael thinks that he needs to use backing tapes to appease the fans who want him to sound like he did 20 years ago. I say $#%^ anyone who can't accept the way that his voice has matured. Anyone who hasn't noticed how Michael's speaking voice is much different than it was years ago is naive. Since Michael as always been a perfectionist, he wants everything to sound perfect. Prince's voice is not as clear as it used to be. It is getting raspy and he is not hitting the notes that he used to during his live appearances. Of course, no one talks about it, because he has never been known as a vocalist, and the media is not going to dissect everything nuanace that he does, as they do Michael. The amount of pressure that is put on Michael is not only unfair, it is unprecedented. NO ONE should have to live up to he expectations that his fans, detractors, media and public put upon him. I really don't know how he handles the pressure. Any other artist would have committed suicide by now, with a tenth of what he has to go through. This man's strength is astounding.
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Reply #190 posted 11/19/06 2:31am

whatsgoingon

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skyecute said:

playme3121 said:




i admit MJ does lip synch most if not all the time. But hasnt Prince done his share of lip synching also, and Prince doesnt really sound all that good live. Such as when he did the Webby awards per4mance, he was forgetting the words to "Dont Play Me" plus his voice was messing up when he sang at the "BRITS" awards. Chaka, herself, doenst sound too good anymore neither. I think it all has to do with age , as far as how u sound.
[Edited 11/16/06 14:50pm]


The problem is not that Michael can't sing-he can; it's that his voice is not the same as it was. Michael's voice is now rawer and deeper. Of course, some fans(newer) and non-fans can't ACCEPT that fact. I think that is the reason that Michael thinks that he needs to use backing tapes to appease the fans who want him to sound like he did 20 years ago. I say $#%^ anyone who can't accept the way that his voice has matured. Anyone who hasn't noticed how Michael's speaking voice is much different than it was years ago is naive. Since Michael as always been a perfectionist, he wants everything to sound perfect. Prince's voice is not as clear as it used to be. It is getting raspy and he is not hitting the notes that he used to during his live appearances. Of course, no one talks about it, because he has never been known as a vocalist, and the media is not going to dissect everything nuanace that he does, as they do Michael. The amount of pressure that is put on Michael is not only unfair, it is unprecedented. NO ONE should have to live up to he expectations that his fans, detractors, media and public put upon him. I really don't know how he handles the pressure. Any other artist would have committed suicide by now, with a tenth of what he has to go through. This man's strength is astounding.


The so-called non-fans you talk of know more about Michael than the so-called hard-core fans. Most of the hard-core fans have been fans since the days of Dangerous or Bad, now, although that may seem like a long time ago, that is still quite recent, considering Michael has been around for almost 40 years.

There are many peeps that were fans back in the days of J5, but are no longer fans now. Infact it is that kind of ex-fan or non-fan that questions everything, because they remember how he once was in every aspect. Newer fans or fans from the Bad/Dangerous/History era rarely question anything MJ does or they simply blame all his woes on the media, as if to say the media told him to butcher his face and wear awful wigs and have sleep overs with pre-teen children lol

As for his voice, it is obviously not going to sound as it did when he was 11 or 21 even, no one expects that. But what I do know is that Michael doesn't utilized his voice has he once did. From the Dangerous tours onwards the miming became more pronounce. And unlike when he was with his brothers, where he use to tour more and at the same time appear on so much more live appearances, as well as make alot more albums, he doesn't do all those things on a consistent basis anymore, therefore it's not surprising his voice has deteriate; when you don't use something often enough you lose it, be it a skill you once had or a part of a body. Age has very little to do with it, considering he had virtually stopped using his voice live since his mid-30s.
[Edited 11/19/06 2:35am]
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Reply #191 posted 11/19/06 6:51am

Adisa

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CalhounSq said:

Fuck a tanning bed, he needs to just stop doing whatever he's doing to rid himself of melanin! ill

I wish the shit would backfire & have the reverse effect - turn him black as the ring of Bernie Mac's asshole nod then he'd REALLY go crazy nutty

:::yes, I said it!! what the fuck wrong wit'chu, Kid???::: disbelief

Please marry me and make me your man slave.

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I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #192 posted 11/19/06 7:19am

dag

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The "journalist" had nothing to do with the wishy washy "performance" at the award show.

It was not supposed to ba a "performance".

The so-called non-fans you talk of know more about Michael than the so-called hard-core fans. Most of the hard-core fans have been fans since the days of Dangerous or Bad, now, although that may seem like a long time ago, that is still quite recent, considering Michael has been around for almost 40 years.

There are many peeps that were fans back in the days of J5, but are no longer fans now. Infact it is that kind of ex-fan or non-fan that questions everything, because they remember how he once was in every aspect. Newer fans or fans from the Bad/Dangerous/History era rarely question anything MJ does or they simply blame all his woes on the media, as if to say the media told him to butcher his face and wear awful wigs and have sleep overs with pre-teen children

As for his voice, it is obviously not going to sound as it did when he was 11 or 21 even, no one expects that. But what I do know is that Michael doesn't utilized his voice has he once did. From the Dangerous tours onwards the miming became more pronounce. And unlike when he was with his brothers, where he use to tour more and at the same time appear on so much more live appearances, as well as make alot more albums, he doesn't do all those things on a consistent basis anymore, therefore it's not surprising his voice has deteriate; when you don't use something often enough you lose it, be it a skill you once had or a part of a body. Age has very little to do with it, considering he had virtually stopped using his voice live since his mid-30s.

See, there is something to what you say. I am also shocked sometimes at how much some "non-fans" over here know about him.
Maybe the problem with us, the younger ones, is that we are used to that "new, weird" Michael. We have never experienced another one. That´s the "normal" MJ to us. Maybe that´s why it is easier for us to get over his looks and weirdness than for the older ones, for whom MJ once was the PERFECT kid with nothing to complain about. He was it!! And than when some "mistakes" appeared, they didn´t like that and wanted back the old "perfect" MJ. That´s why Mike will never be what he used to be - for them. That´s why they say he´s over. Because being an MJ fan was so easy back then. EVERYONE loved him. Noone had anything bad to say about him. Nowadays being an MJ fan is REALLY hard sometimes. Because as "perfect" as Mj used to be as "bad" he is now. Nowadays ppl see nothing positive in him.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #193 posted 11/19/06 7:27am

AsianBomb777





OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, Even the finger nails don't look real. eek



This whole "Jackie-O meets Skelator with Lee Press-on nails" look just makes me barf
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Reply #194 posted 11/19/06 7:59am

Stymie

AsianBomb777 said:





OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, Even the finger nails don't look real. eek



This whole "Jackie-O meets Skelator with Lee Press-on nails" look just makes me barf
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Reply #195 posted 11/19/06 8:05am

AsianBomb777

EmbattledWarrior said:

lazycrockett said:

Guess you cant bleach the skin under your fingernails?!!
eek

vitiligo jackass lol
ive been looking for skin bleaching agents they dont exist
lol cause i could use some lol



Benoquin <-- permanent skin bleaching agent. Among others. shrug
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Reply #196 posted 11/19/06 8:07am

AsianBomb777

Stymie said:

WildStyle said:

Fuck y'all. He looks good.
spit



co-spit


All these folks say he looks good kills me! falloff

I have to go pee now I'm laughing so hard. falloff
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Reply #197 posted 11/19/06 8:09am

AsianBomb777

dag said:

pjh1972 said:





I'm happy to see him looking healthier too and glad that he's out and about again. I also really hope he can come back with a good album.

But I think that last night was a missed opportunity that could have won him some respect and time to get himself truly back on track.

yeah, I know what you mean. But he probably didn´t feel ready 100%. So if he performed and was not THE BEST ever he would be criticed and ppl would say he´s lost it. He´s over. So I think Mike is more able to bear criticism for not performing than for giving a bad performance....

[Edited 11/16/06 3:18am]



Ok, here he looks almost normal.

He looks like Jack White on a really really really really bad day. And that's saying alot cuase Jack looks bad on a really really really good day. lol
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Reply #198 posted 11/19/06 8:57am

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MJ can do it but he has to be motivated.

If you look at his heroes Jackie Wilson, Sammy, Sinatra, Astaire. They all performed until their end while giving it all they had.

I don't know if you remember when Sammy got up and danced with Gregory Hines at his tribute when he could hardly talk but that was mindblowing.

It shows when you know something and you got it even illness or time can't take away years of experience.

Maybe MJ feels like since he has been performing since he was (six?) he is tired of doing all that work. And of course he doesn't need the money.

But he could be doing historical performances like Prince.

Prince may be a little older or he may be toning things down because of his Spiritually but we'll always go see Prince because he is a great performer/musician and he's always going to give us what we don't expect (or want) BUT you'll never say you got a bull**** show. (Not counting movies here.)

Go to the tube and type in the vibe show. You'll call a band rehersal the next morning.

[Edited 11/19/06 17:18pm]
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Reply #199 posted 11/19/06 12:35pm

skyecute

whatsgoingon said:

skyecute said:



The problem is not that Michael can't sing-he can; it's that his voice is not the same as it was. Michael's voice is now rawer and deeper. Of course, some fans(newer) and non-fans can't ACCEPT that fact. I think that is the reason that Michael thinks that he needs to use backing tapes to appease the fans who want him to sound like he did 20 years ago. I say $#%^ anyone who can't accept the way that his voice has matured. Anyone who hasn't noticed how Michael's speaking voice is much different than it was years ago is naive. Since Michael as always been a perfectionist, he wants everything to sound perfect. Prince's voice is not as clear as it used to be. It is getting raspy and he is not hitting the notes that he used to during his live appearances. Of course, no one talks about it, because he has never been known as a vocalist, and the media is not going to dissect everything nuanace that he does, as they do Michael. The amount of pressure that is put on Michael is not only unfair, it is unprecedented. NO ONE should have to live up to he expectations that his fans, detractors, media and public put upon him. I really don't know how he handles the pressure. Any other artist would have committed suicide by now, with a tenth of what he has to go through. This man's strength is astounding.


The so-called non-fans you talk of know more about Michael than the so-called hard-core fans. Most of the hard-core fans have been fans since the days of Dangerous or Bad, now, although that may seem like a long time ago, that is still quite recent, considering Michael has been around for almost 40 years.

There are many peeps that were fans back in the days of J5, but are no longer fans now. Infact it is that kind of ex-fan or non-fan that questions everything, because they remember how he once was in every aspect. Newer fans or fans from the Bad/Dangerous/History era rarely question anything MJ does or they simply blame all his woes on the media, as if to say the media told him to butcher his face and wear awful wigs and have sleep overs with pre-teen children lol

As for his voice, it is obviously not going to sound as it did when he was 11 or 21 even, no one expects that. But what I do know is that Michael doesn't utilized his voice has he once did. From the Dangerous tours onwards the miming became more pronounce. And unlike when he was with his brothers, where he use to tour more and at the same time appear on so much more live appearances, as well as make alot more albums, he doesn't do all those things on a consistent basis anymore, therefore it's not surprising his voice has deteriate; when you don't use something often enough you lose it, be it a skill you once had or a part of a body. Age has very little to do with it, considering he had virtually stopped using his voice live since his mid-30s.
[Edited 11/19/06 2:35am]
[Edited 11/19/06 3:41am]


I am both a hard-core fan and an "old-school" fan who has never wavered in over 30 years.Yes, I am also a hard-core fan who KNOWS everything about his music. Dare I say, I know more than the average fan about his music, because not only have I listened to it, I have studied it, played it, performed it directed others in performing his music,analyzed it, etc. I am also a hard-core fan who has been through the highs and lows of Michael's career. Through it all, I have never felt any different about him. I still love his music, I still support and respect him as much now as I ever did. I am able to look past the rumors and bullshit. I know the man's music-inside and out. I have studied the MAN and know not to believe the crap the media perpetuates. I am able to look past his changing appearance and look at his music,his soul, his message in his music and the wonderful contribution and influence that he has had on the music industry as a whole.Even detractors can't deny what this man has contributed to music and the industry. If they do, then they would be liars. It is my opinion that he is the most influential entertainer/artist/musician of our time. He influenced people when he was the lead singer of the J5 and STILL influences every new singer that comes out today. I know that people will disagree, that's fine. It won't change my opinion.People are entitled to their opinions. I have no problem defending my belief or opinion.
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Reply #200 posted 11/19/06 12:48pm

skyecute

StillDirrty said:

Michael is whiter than white people IMO.


White people can tan, Michael can't.
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Reply #201 posted 11/19/06 1:11pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

Stymie said:

spit



co-spit


All these folks say he looks good kills me! falloff

I have to go pee now I'm laughing so hard. falloff


They do say love is blind. If you love someone has deeply has his fans love him no matter how awful he really looks, he will always look good to them.
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Reply #202 posted 11/19/06 4:57pm

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skyecute said:


I KNOW everything about his music. Dare I say, I know more than the average fan about his music, because not only have I listened to it, I have studied it, played it, performed it directed others in performing his music,analyzed it, etc.

lol
I have studied the MAN


On-line courses are all the rave, I must say.

I am able to look past his changing appearance


Makes for a restful night, doesn't it?

I have no problem defending my belief or opinion.


woot! Long live the king!
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #203 posted 11/19/06 9:42pm

CalhounSq

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Adisa said:

CalhounSq said:

Fuck a tanning bed, he needs to just stop doing whatever he's doing to rid himself of melanin! ill

I wish the shit would backfire & have the reverse effect - turn him black as the ring of Bernie Mac's asshole nod then he'd REALLY go crazy nutty

:::yes, I said it!! what the fuck wrong wit'chu, Kid???::: disbelief

Please marry me and make me your man slave.

batting eyes


YESSSSS!! touched SCORE, BITCHES!! cool

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Reply #204 posted 11/19/06 10:10pm

playme3121

wow there have been many posts in this thread. Does anyone know how MJ feels about his look these days?
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Reply #205 posted 11/23/06 11:23am

skyecute

playme3121 said:

wow there have been many posts in this thread. Does anyone know how MJ feels about his look these days?


Strange how the haters have turned this thread into a thread about Michael's looks. I guess that's what happens when it has been PROVEN that Michael was NOT booed at the WMA's. Not only did all of the footage and videos that I have seen on YouTube, CNN,MTV and other outlets prove that there was no booing,it also proved that the audience was totally in love with Michael. The reception that he received was truly remarkable. This also confirms that the media are liars and will do anything to manipulate the truth. The problem is that it is going to backfire on THEM.
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Reply #206 posted 11/23/06 11:27am

skyecute

playme3121 said:

wow there have been many posts in this thread. Does anyone know how MJ feels about his look these days?


Strange how the haters have turned this thread into a thread about Michael's looks. I guess that's what happens when it has been PROVEN that Michael was NOT booed at the WMA's. Not only did all of the footage and videos that I have seen on YouTube, CNN,MTV and other outlets prove that there was no booing,it also proved that the audience was totally in love with Michael. The reception that he received was truly remarkable. This also confirms that the media are liars and will do anything to manipulate the truth. The problem is that it is going to backfire on THEM.
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Reply #207 posted 11/25/06 2:41pm

sweet

dag said:

lazycrockett said:

The "journalist" had nothing to do with the wishy washy "performance" at the award show.

It was not supposed to ba a "performance".

The so-called non-fans you talk of know more about Michael than the so-called hard-core fans. Most of the hard-core fans have been fans since the days of Dangerous or Bad, now, although that may seem like a long time ago, that is still quite recent, considering Michael has been around for almost 40 years.

There are many peeps that were fans back in the days of J5, but are no longer fans now. Infact it is that kind of ex-fan or non-fan that questions everything, because they remember how he once was in every aspect. Newer fans or fans from the Bad/Dangerous/History era rarely question anything MJ does or they simply blame all his woes on the media, as if to say the media told him to butcher his face and wear awful wigs and have sleep overs with pre-teen children

As for his voice, it is obviously not going to sound as it did when he was 11 or 21 even, no one expects that. But what I do know is that Michael doesn't utilized his voice has he once did. From the Dangerous tours onwards the miming became more pronounce. And unlike when he was with his brothers, where he use to tour more and at the same time appear on so much more live appearances, as well as make alot more albums, he doesn't do all those things on a consistent basis anymore, therefore it's not surprising his voice has deteriate; when you don't use something often enough you lose it, be it a skill you once had or a part of a body. Age has very little to do with it, considering he had virtually stopped using his voice live since his mid-30s.

See, there is something to what you say. I am also shocked sometimes at how much some "non-fans" over here know about him.
Maybe the problem with us, the younger ones, is that we are used to that "new, weird" Michael. We have never experienced another one. That´s the "normal" MJ to us. Maybe that´s why it is easier for us to get over his looks and weirdness than for the older ones, for whom MJ once was the PERFECT kid with nothing to complain about. He was it!! And than when some "mistakes" appeared, they didn´t like that and wanted back the old "perfect" MJ. That´s why Mike will never be what he used to be - for them. That´s why they say he´s over. Because being an MJ fan was so easy back then. EVERYONE loved him. Noone had anything bad to say about him. Nowadays being an MJ fan is REALLY hard sometimes. Because as "perfect" as Mj used to be as "bad" he is now. Nowadays ppl see nothing positive in him.


i kinda think that bolded part above has a lot 2 do with the 'he looks great' comments boxed cuz to me personally he looks like death warmed over...twice.....he used ta be fine back in tha day!!
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