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Thread started 07/24/02 9:21pm

locoarts

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American Idol & Paula Abdul

I have seen enough of them to notice a few things.. but what I want to talk about is Paula Abdul.

WHY is she there? WHY is she talking about if you are in "the correct vocal key".. or "your voice was off there"

when SHE couldn't hit any of her HIGH NOTES on her album.. they paid the chick from The Mary Jane Girls.. to hit MOST of Paula's high notes.

This is why she disappeared from the Music Biz..

Right after Milli Vinilli got caught.. Bobby Brown & Paula Abdul both were in the news for not giving credit to others for singing parts/most of their songs ..well "help" sing most of their songs.

so WHY is Paula acting like she knows about "singing".. why doesn't a contestant or Simon bring this up about her

:LOL:

* Lets not even bring up she slept with half the Lakers and Jackson family to get "notice" in the music biz
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Reply #1 posted 07/24/02 9:26pm

nLA

I was thinkin' the same damn muthafucking thang! LOL -- my friend worked at Virgin when they signed her and her voice IS ALL STUDIO my friend..

and even then they couldn't fix it! LOL

PS> I aint a switch hitter but gotddamn if Simon isn't American Idol's version of IceNine meets Aaron in a lovefest and produce Uglybrowneyes incarnate.

Gotta love him!
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Reply #2 posted 07/24/02 11:15pm

wishuhvn

I thought the same thing when Paula made that comment. But U don't have 2 be a great singer to recognize if someone else can sing or not. So her personal credentials may not be that strong but she was right in that the singer was off key at one point...Also yes, the studio def "enhances" her voice but "Rush" is still one of those ballads that I will always stop 2 listen 2.
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Reply #3 posted 07/24/02 11:56pm

mistermaxxx

Paula Abdul hosting a Show dealing with Vocals is like Don King Combing His Hair? you will Never Believe it with a Straight Face.
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Reply #4 posted 07/25/02 9:17pm

subyduby

locoarts said:

I have seen enough of them to notice a few things.. but what I want to talk about is Paula Abdul.

WHY is she there? WHY is she talking about if you are in "the correct vocal key".. or "your voice was off there"

when SHE couldn't hit any of her HIGH NOTES on her album.. they paid the chick from The Mary Jane Girls.. to hit MOST of Paula's high notes.

This is why she disappeared from the Music Biz..

Right after Milli Vinilli got caught.. Bobby Brown & Paula Abdul both were in the news for not giving credit to others for singing parts/most of their songs ..well "help" sing most of their songs.

so WHY is Paula acting like she knows about "singing".. why doesn't a contestant or Simon bring this up about her

:LOL:

* Lets not even bring up she slept with half the Lakers and Jackson family to get "notice" in the music biz



good point. i thought the very same thought about why is she judging when she wasn't a great singer herself. making good songs are one thing. but being amazing at them is another. whitney,celine,aretha,mariah,even christina should've been judges! at least they have vocals, have respect as vocalists and can make hits.
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Reply #5 posted 07/30/02 6:31pm

locoarts

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They really have to get rid .. really of Paula see is not a judge.. the whole judging is getting worst and worst every week..

Paula for one is she there to just comfort everyone?? or judge?

boy would I love to know.. because this whole thing is pretty aweful.
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Reply #6 posted 07/30/02 7:11pm

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Hey locoarts!

U haven't even touched on just how "talentLESS" the supposed "talent" is!

These people suck!

This show is gonna produce an act that's gonna get major airplay...the top 7 will all b heard in one way or another...and they all suck!

That's the real problem.
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Reply #7 posted 07/30/02 9:17pm

squish

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I think they hired her cause she can pull of that oh-so-fucking nice/goodie 2 shoes act. Sort of a counter to Simon.
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Reply #8 posted 07/30/02 9:20pm

PFunkjazz

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squish said:

I think they hired her cause she can pull of that oh-so-fucking nice/goodie 2 shoes act. Sort of a counter to Simon.


they hired her cuz she was cheap: unemployed has-been!
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/02 9:23pm

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locoarts said:

I have seen enough of them to notice a few things.. but what I want to talk about is Paula Abdul.

WHY is she there? WHY is she talking about if you are in "the correct vocal key".. or "your voice was off there"

when SHE couldn't hit any of her HIGH NOTES on her album.. they paid the chick from The Mary Jane Girls.. to hit MOST of Paula's high notes.

This is why she disappeared from the Music Biz..

Right after Milli Vinilli got caught.. Bobby Brown & Paula Abdul both were in the news for not giving credit to others for singing parts/most of their songs ..well "help" sing most of their songs.

so WHY is Paula acting like she knows about "singing".. why doesn't a contestant or Simon bring this up about her

:LOL:



* Lets not even bring up she slept with half the Lakers and Jackson family to get "notice" in the music biz




LOL Hey man. I know we've quarrelled before around here, but you are so ON POINT! ^5

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Reply #10 posted 07/30/02 11:44pm

mistermaxxx

locoarts said:

I have seen enough of them to notice a few things.. but what I want to talk about is Paula Abdul.

WHY is she there? WHY is she talking about if you are in "the correct vocal key".. or "your voice was off there"

when SHE couldn't hit any of her HIGH NOTES on her album.. they paid the chick from The Mary Jane Girls.. to hit MOST of Paula's high notes.

This is why she disappeared from the Music Biz..

Right after Milli Vinilli got caught.. Bobby Brown & Paula Abdul both were in the news for not giving credit to others for singing parts/most of their songs ..well "help" sing most of their songs.

so WHY is Paula acting like she knows about "singing".. why doesn't a contestant or Simon bring this up about her

:LOL:

* Lets not even bring up she slept with half the Lakers and Jackson family to get "notice" in the music biz
Right on with that Post Man.for all we know She probably is still on the Casting Coutch??
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Reply #11 posted 07/31/02 4:53am

DrNappyKitchen
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I honestly think this woman (Paula Abdul) has the hots for that Justin Guarini. He has a very nice head of hair, looks combable and fluffy.
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Reply #12 posted 07/31/02 10:39pm

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I've thought about this too. But then I thought about how Simon has confessed that he can't sing a lick. Isn't it odd to have a show like this where a judge is judging a vocalist when he has no vocal ability whatsoever? I mean, I understand that you can judge and hear things properly without vocal training, but how to you give anyone constructive criticism if you really know nothing about singing. The answer is- you don't. You just say that they suck, send them crying, and get a big fat paycheck and become a big celebrity. Not that his shenanigans aren't entertaining...
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Reply #13 posted 07/31/02 11:17pm

mistermaxxx

jtgillia said:

I've thought about this too. But then I thought about how Simon has confessed that he can't sing a lick. Isn't it odd to have a show like this where a judge is judging a vocalist when he has no vocal ability whatsoever? I mean, I understand that you can judge and hear things properly without vocal training, but how to you give anyone constructive criticism if you really know nothing about singing. The answer is- you don't. You just say that they suck, send them crying, and get a big fat paycheck and become a big celebrity. Not that his shenanigans aren't entertaining...
but in the Music Business it isn't uncommon for a Label Head to Be Tone Deaf.Clive Davis has No Music Skills at all but He is Considered as Important as Artist that is in the Business.that is the Norm in so many forms of Life it seems.
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Reply #14 posted 08/01/02 10:48am

jtgillia

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Then the music business is truly all "business" and no music. That's too bad.
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Reply #15 posted 08/01/02 11:13am

IrishEcho

She needs a job. Leave her alone!
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Reply #16 posted 08/01/02 11:22am

Funk

Not that I'm a supporter of Paula, but she does not have to have a good voice to recognize talent. She has admitted to being rejected and criticized more than these kids and has been through the biz machine...maybe from her experience she can honestly judge the contestants knowing what works and does not work for artists in the business. Her role is to be the "cheerleader" and to balance Simon's harshness, so all of her comments are positive. She is not there to be judged, rather, to give the kids a voice of support as person has been a pop idol. I'm not a fan but she seems like a nice enough person and seems pretty together considering her career has been less that stellar.
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Reply #17 posted 08/01/02 11:24am

browneyes

I happen to think it's strange watching Paula Abdul judge and critique some of the singers on American Idol who could sing circles around her any day! Paula was able to make a brief mark in the biz mainly because of her looks and dancing-not because of her vocal skills.

I know she's supposedly the "nice" one of the crew so maybe she's there for moral support???
Never let anyone put u in their little box...hell, u might start suffocating!
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Reply #18 posted 08/01/02 7:20pm

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is she really critiquing or just pandering to viewers?
I dont think I ever heard her say anything negative about a performer.She even gets on Simon's case when he gives didnt like a performance.
Last night she was struggling to say what was wrong with Justin's?(the kid with the afro) performance
[This message was edited Thu Aug 1 19:22:47 PDT 2002 by squish]
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Reply #19 posted 08/23/02 11:18am

locoarts

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Isn't sad that this whole dumb show comes down too..

Speed Dial

?

what a dumb show.
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Reply #20 posted 08/23/02 12:57pm

Raspberry

I've never really forgiven her for marrying Emilio Estefez.
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Reply #21 posted 08/23/02 4:37pm

Essence

The forthcoming UK series has Geri Halliwell (Of Spice Girls fame judging). eek
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Reply #22 posted 08/23/02 10:00pm

fonkywonder

I don't like the show, why cause its wack and the producers NOT interested in longevity of those performers who appear on the show...it about making a quick buck and moving on to the next pound of MEAT who are just puppets! IMO its gonna end up like Popstars and Making of a Band.
Sure at the beginning both were huge rating winners and the
hosts/judges got their 15 minutes of fame...but since of hype ofthose shows slowed down those "winners" have struggled for credibility (eg. O-Town and Eden's Garden...remember them???) The bottom line its a fad! and jugding by the last episode the AI is fixed too! Tamyra got screwed over! Plus that Simon is one fucked up asswhole...I read his interviews where he disses everyone in the biz...yet he is some D-grade celeb in the UK. If he is so self-righteous why don't he get up there and sing?? Punk ass bitch deserves a good slap!!!
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Reply #23 posted 08/23/02 10:05pm

subyduby

squish said:

is she really critiquing or just pandering to viewers?
I dont think I ever heard her say anything negative about a performer.She even gets on Simon's case when he gives didnt like a performance.
Last night she was struggling to say what was wrong with Justin's?(the kid with the afro) performance
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u are correct. i think she is just there for moral support. u know how ppl.,fans,outsiders help ppl. out of pity.
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Reply #24 posted 08/24/02 4:25am

Essence

Simon's the man who hits a triangle on each of his artist's albums just so he gets equal musician royalties.
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Reply #25 posted 08/24/02 7:46am

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Essence said:

The forthcoming UK series has Geri Halliwell (Of Spice Girls fame judging). eek


If you guys want a good laugh, I suggest you to download tracks from the french shows (Popstars L5 & Star Academy) !!
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Reply #26 posted 08/24/02 8:03am

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Most of you are right about Paula...yet you don't have to be able to sing to tell if someone can sing or not, or rather they're 'flat or sharp' it just takes a person with a strong auditory sense.

I can't sing a lick (but I can sing on key, a ha). I'm a musician though, I play all woodwind instruments, so I can tell rather or not someone's a singer, or someone who can sing.

Ex of Singers/Blowers/Soulful Screamers/Divas
Whitney (as cracked out as she may be)
Aretha (The momma)
Patti (looks like my momma smile
Jil Scott hug (I love her)
Christina (u just have to admit)
Celine
Mariah (as nuts as she may be right now)
Chaka (still fine!)
Anita Baker

to name a few...

Ex of Artists that 'can sing' but aren't singers
Brandy (I still love her)
Faith (my baby momma smile
Mary J. (after years of vocal training)
A. Keyes (she can blow, but not quite there)
Toni B. (the new Anita)

just a few...

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Reply #27 posted 08/24/02 8:38am

AprilMichelle

could'nt have said it better my self...paula couldn't hit a note if u gave her a bat
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Reply #28 posted 08/24/02 9:21am

ChimChimBadass

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TheBluePrince said:


Ex of Singers/Blowers/Soulful Screamers/Divas
Whitney (as cracked out as she may be)
Aretha (The momma)
Patti (looks like my momma smile
Jil Scott hug (I love her)
Christina (u just have to admit)
Celine
Mariah (as nuts as she may be right now)
Chaka (still fine!)
Anita Baker

to name a few...

Ex of Artists that 'can sing' but aren't singers
Brandy (I still love her)
Faith (my baby momma smile
Mary J. (after years of vocal training)
A. Keyes (she can blow, but not quite there)
Toni B. (the new Anita)



Hmm you'd better listen to Jill Scott performance on The Roots live LP, you'll quickly realize she belongs to the second category.
I think Faith Evans belongs to the first one IMHO.
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Reply #29 posted 08/27/02 12:38pm

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ChimChimBadass said:

TheBluePrince said:


Ex of Singers/Blowers/Soulful Screamers/Divas
Whitney (as cracked out as she may be)
Aretha (The momma)
Patti (looks like my momma smile
Jil Scott hug (I love her)
Christina (u just have to admit)
Celine
Mariah (as nuts as she may be right now)
Chaka (still fine!)
Anita Baker

to name a few...

Ex of Artists that 'can sing' but aren't singers
Brandy (I still love her)
Faith (my baby momma smile
Mary J. (after years of vocal training)
A. Keyes (she can blow, but not quite there)
Toni B. (the new Anita)



Hmm you'd better listen to Jill Scott performance on The Roots live LP, you'll quickly realize she belongs to the second category.
I think Faith Evans belongs to the first one IMHO.


I agree with you about Faith being in the first category...but maybe Jill was having a bad day that day, because she surely can holler with the best of them. She puts everyone in the mindset of Mahalia Jackson (vocally)
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