BlaqueKnight said:

I didn't ignore your post, but it just doesn't relate to the point I was trying to make. Sure anyone has the right to do defend themselves against anything--or even start something if he/she's fit. But what about self-restraint? Why does "dissing" someone else prove anything. And you didn't read acknowledge the rest of my post either. Do you think the general public would respond very well if Justin "defended himself" against some comment Johnny Cash hypothetically could have made? No... It would still be Justin's fault. I can't think of many people who would take Justin's side over Willie Nelson, for instance,--not that he has ever said anything about anybody--and neither did Johnny Cash. If, for example, someone like Mick Jaggar said , "Sexy never left," and Justin retaliated via lyrics in a song do you think that the general public would really support Justin over Mick? In fact, I think many people on this very site would go ballistic if Justin said something about Mick, Dylan, all of those legends.. even if Mick and Dylan "started it." I just don't understand why more people don't take Prince's side particularly after all the comparisons being made with Justin cd's and Prince's music. It's just weird to me that Justin had some sort of need to defend himself in the first place--and that Justin Timberlake would have the audacity to confront someone like Prince particularly over a little benign comment Prince made more in defense of himself more than any diss to Justin.

But most importantly, the whole thing is just representative of larger social problems. I've already mentioned the respect issue. In addition, generally speaking, everyone is always dissing in each other to get the final word, but no one ever communicates anything. Yeah.. I guess it's all about being a bad-ass. Nobody takes the high road because it's entertaining to create drama. I guess that's the bottom line now, isn't it? Just give the public a little drama, and they will pay whatever price.

As I said earlier after reading the entire thread, it's probably a marketing ploy. It's just annoying--and I don't really understand it, but whatever.
[Edited 11/14/06 15:35pm]

The one thing that comes to my mind when it comes to JT is that his fakeness knows no bounds. What I hate about Justin is that he has some talent and yet he keeps ripping off his idols so we really don't know the real Justin. We just hear the influences and not JT. So to hear that he's dissing the people he publicly praised just further proves the point as to how fake this asshole is. Someone needs to find JT and beat his sorry little fake bitch ass up. Mofo ain't shit. Prince and Janet should spit in his face the next time they see him.
[Edited 11/14/06 16:27pm]

StillDirrty said:

ignore him, I know I do

SoulAlive said:

Yea I like that Sexyback Prince rip, but the rest is pretty bad. And Cameon Diaz is no looker anymore so he can keep her.

how the hell does that have anything to do with prince and janet?
fuck he can be talking about Britney and K-fed,
That song is more obscure than the reason justin is famous...

c'mon yall,
you don't insult people who you openly say have influenced the album

i swear people need to stop analyzing songs,without someone to guide there asses
fuckin pop conformists

LMAO!!! Aint no sense in getting all worked up over anything this weasel has to say--he'll just deny it, or have his publicist deny it, tomorrow.

He couldn't even stand by his Taylor Hicks comments. lmao

Pride before a fall.....and all that jazz. And I have a feeling quite a few will enjoy seeing this one fall. Should be fun!!
[Edited 11/14/06 19:58pm]

opps.
[Edited 11/14/06 19:57pm]

Harlepolis said:

"this little Becky....this dickie whooped puissy mfker..."

If I remember correctly, Usher dissed and dismissed JT quite a few times in the press. Has Justin ever responded? I actually think it's bolder and more offensive (to me personally) to respond to Prince than a current pop star, though. Justin has nothing on Prince whatsoever. He has nothing on Michael Jackson whatsoever...he has nothing on George Michael...whatsoever. I just don't see the talent.
And he seems the type to sell his momma and all his aunties down the river for the sake of his career. But what's more annoying is he can't even own what he says or does. It's always taken "out of context" or some crap. If you're gonna dish the dirt, stand by it straight up.

ALRIGHT
i did some investigating
and this is not a nelly furtado, nor a Justin Timberlake song
thus more than likely they did not write the lyrics
it is a TIMBALAND SONG! probably a single for his upcoming new album
thus it would most likely be coming from Timbaland not Justin Timberlake

so everybody stop their bitchin and somebody give this thread the good ole
Lock N Key

if its a swipe at P
timbaland wrote it...
so bitch about him...

Isel said:

Flip it. Say Prince wrote Sexyback. If someone made the remark Prince did, people here would flip out. Just admit your bias and be done with it. Everyone thinks its funny when Prince takes shots at people in song but if someone else does it, they're wrong? Life doesn't work that way.
[Edited 11/14/06 21:09pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

thats some truf for yo ass...
i remember when P allegedly took a shot at MJ
cats where supporting the line...
now that the p fans hear their messiah being nailed in another song
they have a tiffy...
mmm
truf...

tonyat said:

you take potshots at someone, they're going to do the same to you.

I can't believe soo many people are getting upset about this nonsense. So Justin made some comment in retaliation to Prince's comment...so what? So, he's still talking shit about Janet, and then apologizing for it a couple days later (hey, I like JT, but I'll be the first to admit that he's a punk - I could probably whoop his ass and he's a whole foot taller than me). They all charted in the top 10 at some point this year, one just happened to stay in the top 10 a little bit longer than the other two...they're all still making waaay more money than me and all of their new albums rank pretty low compared to their past successes IMO. Let them diss each other, talk about each other's mommas, and maybe even come to blows if they want. Damn, that would be hilarious! 6 foot tall Justin trying to fist fight with 5 foot tall Prince and JD's little, troll-lookin' ass with Janet cheering him on from afar (cause Janet ain't fightin' nobody)...man, that would be awesome! It would be just as funny as when Tommy Hilfiger punched (or slapped...most likely slapped) Axl Rose ).

When was this song written? Was it definitely after Prince's "sexy never left" comment? If not, then how could it possibly be a diss to Prince--Justin/Timbaland/whomever wrote it would have had to be a mind reader to know that Prince was gonna say it.

Also, right after Prince made that comment I remember JT being on the Ellen show and even saying himself that sexy never left.

EmbattledWarrior said:

If that's true, fuck him too!

purplecam said:

Justin is a fake,wannabee performer who steals all of his ideas from classic artists that came before him.

Prince made great music, yes. but that does not make him better than any other human, if Justin feels like speaking out because he feels dissed, then he can, Prince is not above him or anyone! just because you write some catchy pop songs doesn't make you god.

Now are Justins comments and hurt feelings justified? that's a whole different question.

It sounds like someone has let fame and angel dust get to his head. Nothing like a big white line and and people kissing your ass to give you a big ego. Kanye watch out!

I'd like to make a point, just because an album reaches #1 on the music charts doesn't mean that the music is a great.

There are many albums out there that haven't sold millions, but yet contain some the best music ever made.

BlaqueKnight said:

I already did admit my bias. I already said I just don't like the guy in one of my earlier posts. Didn't you see that? I said that I didn't like Justin's persona--and I only view him as a talented performing artist. Hey, the guy would have been in country music if it would have made him a star. He auditioned for NSYNC, and going more urban was the best and quickest way to sustain his career after the boy-band phenomenon waned. There 's nothing wrong with that, but there's no way that Justin is on the same level as someone like Prince. I'm sure MANY of you could make an argument for him being on the same level of a Janet, for example, but not Prince. So in my mind, Justin's little quip is like a spoiled child talking back to his father after his father put the kid back in his place.

That said, I don't think it's funny at all when Prince takes shots at people. As a Janet fan, I didn't appreciate Prince's little comments about her in a number of circumstances. And there have been other moments, too. However, In THIS case the difference between Prince and Justin is that I have never heard Prince diss a person he praised just a few weeks before. If this is actually about Prince, and a lot of sites that I've read are split on the subject--it just shows how expedient Justin really is.


I don't think the music business has to necessarily work that way either-- it doesn't have to. Since when did the Beatles, for example, ever take pot shots at peers through lyrics in their music? They might get into a litte war in the press, but not in a song.

As BOTH of us have said before--which you accused me of not reading but I did because I referred to it in a subsequent post--I bet this is just something to create buzz. Justin has done some dubious stuff before and gotten away with it. Why should this time be any different? The bottom line is that a lot of people are making money off the guy at this point in time, plus he has tons of fans. Consequently, for some Justin can do no wrong. Most of my views definitely come from a snobbery of sorts because I just don't look at Justin being that creative even though he is a talented PERFORMER,possibly having the the best-selling cd in the country. I'm a Prince fan, so of course I'm not going to be too happy about Justin. I'm also a Janet fan, too. So no Justin is not my favorite for many reasons.
[Edited 11/15/06 4:59am]

lilgish said:

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Prince owns his own nightclub in Vegas. He is not opening for Wayne Newton.

I can't understand some of the so-called fans on this board.

sallysassalot said:

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You know what I am sure P can come up a good come back for Justin. Sexy did not leave or go anywhere and his ass certainly can't bring anything back.

Justin would be lost if he did not hook up with the hot producer of the moment.
He is not in P zipcode.

BlaqueKnight said:

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You don't think Justin deserves to have a shot taken at him. Just for the Janet Superbowl mess and ripping P off wholesale.

I don't even know how that's definatley a diss at Janet and Prince. Who knows when the hell that was recorded....it was definately for Nelly's album, which came out in June but it's single came out long before, no? I think people are reading into it what they want to. And I don't doubt that Justin would say shit abot them, though. Pretty soon people will realize how damn phoney he is once he tries to make a really risky album.

laurarichardson said:

I agree. In a weird way, if the truth be told, Justin is the one who started it.

I don't want to turn this into a Pol/Rel discussion, but there is also a social element to which I've alluded but have been reluctant to mention, nicely addressed in the following article, "The Black Keys vs Justin Timberlake. "
http://passionweiss.blogs...80238.html

Here's a little excerpt:

...Essentially, the critics have been raving about an R-rated N' Sync CD produced by Timbaland. Yet because Pharrell and Timbaland have sanctioned this R&B CD that neither has rhythm nor blues, critics have opted to duck the authenticity question that hangs over Timberlake. The fact that he's basically doing an impression of a black man.

...And as for Timberlake, I'm not worried about his career. He's the perfect icon for our times, a copy-cat like a James Frey in his theft of Michael Jackson and Prince's styles, reliant on illicit performance-enhancing substances (Timbaland productions) like Barry Bonds ...

The rest of the article really explains my point of view much better than I ever could. The quotes just don't do it justice.

So IF Justin's intent was to diss Prince and even Janet well the truth is that Prince was just reminding Justin that he's not all that anyway with his Sexy Never Left comment. And no...Justin's particular rap diss or implication for marketing--just so people might even perceive that he's taking a shot at anyone.. well no.. I don't like it at all--and I'm not even African American. It's just a lack of respect that's got to stop. And I'm not going to apologize for the way I feel. Like I said, it's one part of deeper problem.

Consequently, Justin annoys me, and this particular topic gets my knickers in a twist because as I said it's indicatative and representative of another deeper issue that nobody wants to talk about--acknowledge or address due to the political incorrectness of it all.

Fine.. Justin is the new king of pop--whatever that means anyway. But there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed even if it's trendy in the biz to do so--and this little diss to which I'm sure Justin will plead his case as a misunderstood victim--is one of those lines.
[Edited 11/15/06 6:45am]

For all you numbnuts that say Prince started it...back off! Prince did not take a dig at Timberfake personally. When asked what does he think of Timberfake and Timberbland "bringing Sexy back" to popular music, he simply stated the truth "sexy" never left.

Now these two pantywastes want to make it personal. I think it's good that both of their names begin with Timberrrrr! They'll both be falling soon enough!

If by some freak of nature, or because the planets unaligning, or just the lack of good taste, these nimrods last 25 years in the game, get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, can still rock like never before and people even remember who the hell they are, like Prince. I'll publicly apologize to the both of them. But I ain't worried!

laurarichardson said:

I said the same thing Prince did BEFORE he said it. I know exactly what Justin is and I have no problem calling him on it. My point is that being a legend doesn't give you a "diss pass" no matter who you are. CD reviewers have been pushing the Prince-influence thing and YES you hear it a bit on the CD but that's not what sold the CD. "SexyBack", which sounds NOTHING AT ALL LIKE A PRINCE SONG is what realistically sold the CD; that and off the strength of his last CD - which built his fanbase. He'll forever be on my shit list for what he did to Janet. Leaving a sista out there like that yields 0 points with a Blaque man. I'm NOT defending JT, I'm making a factual point that as fans, many people on this site refuse to accept because of their loyalty to Prince. That's all fine and good but really; this is 2006, not 1986. Dissing is a part of mainstream media and the days of accepting criticism from "legends" is over because it can be a career ender. Its fucked up but that's the way it is. Rep is just as important as music in today's pop market (thanks to rap) and artists are expected to respond because the "high road" is considered weak and kids nowadays will actually stop supporting an artist if they think they are weak. In my opinion, if all were fair, Van Hunt would be outselling Timberflake but all is not fair. Legends don't get the respect they once did and you're fair game if you open your mouth about someone else. Since rappers use "subliminal disses" all the time (Jay-Z, Nas, Game, etc), of course what Prince said was taken as such. Hell, he's done it himself before. I agree that this last Janet album was thin and her sales show it. It just means that she can't coast on her "I'm Janet" rep anymore. She needs to come harder than what she's doing. Find the fire. There are a few legends immune to retaliation, but obviously Prince isn't one of them. Justin's fanbase is too young to give a shit about Prince. Justin may or may not (I'm guessing the latter) ever have the respect that Prince and MJ have but at the moment, he's in a position to talk shit. If he ever was gonna do it, now's the time. I believe there's no where for him to go but down from here on out.

JUSTIN IS A PUBIC FACED COCK SUCKER, A PUSSY WHO MAKES SHITE MUSIC NO ONE GIVES A TOSS ABOUT

CUM BACK WHEN YOU'VE SOLD OVER A 100 MILLION JUSTIN YOU FUCKING PRICK

COCK SUCKER JUSTIN FUCKING SHITE MUSIC

WORST SONGS IVE EVER HEARD

EVEN ME SITTING ON THE TOILET TAKING A SHIT SOUNDS BETTER THAN ANY OF THIS CRAPPY JUSTIN AND TIMBALAND CRAP

FUCKING BORING AS HELL, AND IS A WHINY PUSSY WHITE BOY WHO THINKS HE'S BLACK

WELL FUCK OFF JUSTIN! FUCKING WIGGER!

EVEN VANILLA ICE HAS MORE CREDIBILITY THAN JUSTIN FUCK FACE

dirtyman2005 said:

Larry? Is that you?