http://www.youtube.com/wa...CTXMcT5_tE


I love Donna,but she sorta got lost in the 80s,with several lackluster singles and some truly awful videos."Supernatural Love" is the worst.

Her biggest mistake was finding Jesus and becoming boring musically at nearly the same time.
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That comment about gay folk seemed to do her a fair bit of damage.

Cloudbuster said:

She denied she ever said it. Or it was taken out of context. Or she said it and regretted it. Or ...

Shapeshifter said:

That rumor will never die

SoulAlive said:

No, it won't. She sued the magazine that published the comment and it was settled out of court. That doesn't necessarily prove that she didn't say it, but it always seemed like an unbelievable 180 from somebody who publicly acknowledged her gay fans on an album in the 70s. Just my take on it...

TommyRoss said:

Also,the late Paul Jabara (who wrote one of her biggest hits,"Last Dance") was gay and he was a close friend of hers.

On the Donna Summer tribute site,"the rumor" reared it's ugly head again this week.The site moderator is spotlighting the 'Mistaken Identity' album and had this to say about the alleged comment...

A little background on "the rumor": This is a subject I hate to bring up on the site because I know it stirs up strong (and sometimes painful) emotions.But in light of things that were happening when 'Mistaken Identity' came out,I feel a little background information is appropriate.As many of you know,back in the mid 80s,Donna was accused of saying that AIDS was God's retribution against gays.Now,she NEVER made that statement and has consistently denied saying it,but that didn't stop New York Magazine from printing it in early 1991.Donna sued the magazine and consequently,interviews that would normally have focused on the new album ended up focusing on the lawsuit instead

http://www.donna-tribute....rfever.htm

dear god, she looks completely fried in that video, her eyes look all glazed over.

what the hell was that? i had a feeling it was gonna be terrible from the caveman/cavewoman scene at the very beginning.

Tom said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

The director of this video should be shot

This is really strange...I had a dream about this video, only it was totally different (it had this storyline and Donna in different tacky eighties outfits). And it's funny because I didn't see this thread and haven't heard the song in a while. I have no idea what triggered it. It was pretty damn bad, but I think it was combination of a lot of things that hurt Donna's career. She never really did get into making consistently good videos, although most of them showed promise. I really dug the simple "Dinner With Gerswhin".

Okay, I feared watching this video. I've never seen it, and now that I have...

Did they film that shit on the leftover sets from Land of the Lost? Seriously, it looks like she picked up right where the video for Shannon's Give Me Tonight left off (another horrendously watchable video) and cast new people in the lead parts:


Give Me Tonight


...
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VoicesCarry said:

what a silly thing to say. if her music became boring, why not leave it at that? i don't see the point in mentioning her religion unless you're aiming to insult her for coming into the religion at all.

sallysassalot said:

I was thinking the same thing. It's like wishing Madonna would dump Lourdes off at a halfway house so she can strap on the cone bra again.

GangstaFam said:

If taken in context, it's not so silly. The rumor is that she "found God" and denounced all her gay fans.

TommyRoss said:

first, its a rumor. i've heard her address it, claiming its just that. but, for the sake of argument, define "denounce." is it saying an action is against one's religion? is it claiming an entire people are doomed? is it even a judgment on a person or is it just a judgment on an act? i mean, i denounce some of my own actions but does that mean i denounce myself?

sallysassalot said:

I'm not even going to get involved in a religious debate with you over a rumor I don't believe. I was trying to explain the connection. I'll let him do the rest on his own.

TommyRoss said:

its all good.

i don't believe that rumor either, lol.

VoicesCarry said:

which was when?

sallysassalot said:

Look, it's very simple. Donna found Jesus and STOPPED SINGING ABOUT SEX/SENSUALITY, denounced her old work for a while in the early 80's and GOT BORING. There is a direct connection between the stale music she started making ca. 1980 and her change in beliefs. She talks all about this in the Behind The Music special or whatever it was. Prince did the same thing. I'm not bashing the religion or their choices, but regarding the music it's just the way it is (unfortunately).

It really is too bad Donna started to water her stuff down with The Wanderer. She was just coming off Bad Girls, one of the hottest albums of the decade, and she could have done some really awesome stuff in the 80's. Instead we got a few mediocre albums, and a few absolute embarrassments .
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VoicesCarry said:

I understand it as that, yes. I mean a song like "Woman" is just painful! She still sounded great but the lyrics got boring as hell in a lot of cases or just plain preachy. That being said, for the last 10 or so years with her one off singles from various projects, she's kicking major butt. "You're So Beautiful" is awesome!

VinnyM27 said:

I see it like this: she started trying to downplay the sensuality in her voice. It came naturally to her, with a voice like that. So it's sort of difficult to listen to the records of that period, where her vocals lack the spark they had in the 70's. It's sort of like when Madonna "learned" to sing and then never sang as well as she used to because it was too practiced and stilted instead of emotional.

TommyRoss said:

I somewhat disagree. By the magazine settling out of court, it meant that:

A. Donna's comments about her faith were taken out of context.

OR

B. The magazine or Donna's gay accuser lie on her.

I like how she frees the fat girl.

SoulAlive said:

Sounds to me that Donna was lie on.

VoicesCarry said:

1. I don't understand why anyone in the ORG would be so surprise. Ever I know the devil's music has outsold Yahweh's music on planet earth for centuries.

2. (...Back To The Subject) VC, I'm surprise at you for something else! You didn't like This Time I Know It For Real?
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TonyVanDam said:

Of course I liked it. I "liked" some of her songs in the 80's. But something was definitely missing.

SoulAlive said:

Hey SoulAlive, that video was stupid fun to watch! Typical 80's trash!