Like I said, is their any LIVING LEGENDS that you respect their work(Acting-music,,,etc etc etc!)??
And why you don't LIKE THEM???

I will start wit my list:

Aretha Franklin-->I respect her music matter o' fact I like most of her work, God knows I do. But I neva liked the woman and thats becoz of her attitude and the way she treats ppl. Its like everyone in the biz should praise her b4 they got their breakthrought and the whole Ashanti thang made it worse, don't get me wrong I DON'T LIKE ASHANTI but why dis-respect the young sistah?? Yes she don't deserve any award or the new Alicia Keys position she's in and YES I don't think she also deserve to be dis-respected,,thats just foul from Aretha. An old woman who have made it through the thick n' thin should've GREW UP and leave these games 4 the critics.

Diana Ross--->Good lawd, when will she realize that she's an old woman and grow the fuck up already?? Does she think of herself as the black Miss Monro?? The whole DIVA shit is the worst thang about her and Aretha.

Rick James-FUNKY?? Hell yes. LOVED?? Hell no. His full of bitter-ness and he should stop actin like he's some George Clinton.

Whitney Houston-You just can't go wrong wit that voice, but lol how the hell you're gonna sit you black ass here and tell me that you're a good ol' christian, church black woman when you CUSS 1000 in a short sentence?? Does that make sense 2 anyone ?? Another thing, b4 she start bitching about the media she should look at herself and ask 'What did I do 2 deserve this??' she'll come up wit an answer which is: Publishized her every move in her early days(Even her personal life and talking about it like crazy) just 4 the fame's sake. Her attitude toward ppl is mighty BAD and not 2 mention---a DIVA

Larry Graham-After I watched the RAVE 2000 DVD I finaly anderstood why ppl hate him so much, I'm not saying I do but I'll neva LIKE HIM.

Madonna-All I could say is "Whats goes around comes right after". She shoulda known that if she spread love 2 ppl she sho nuff won't feel sad and bitter like these days.

Nothing personal tho, hope I didn't offend someone.

Peace

I don't know if P.Diddy counts as a living legend but I got 2 give him credit 4 his business sense and becoming a young mogul. But I don't like anything else about him. He has no actual music talent or anything like that.

Harlepolis said:

What does the award have to do with Aretha besides bearing her name? She doesn't pick the nominees or recipients. Award winners named after people are not chosen by the person the award is named after. Aretha treats people just fine.


The media and fans bestow the "diva" junk on people, not the divas themselves.


And he's been bitter for over 2 decades now.

Supernova said:

Well, she(Aretha) wanted Ashanti's name 2 be taken out and as ppl said, she started 2 diss her in Radio St.

I'm not convinced that's true, since I'm only hearing about it here. And even if it is, this Ashanti chick is being recognized for an ARETHA FRANKLIN AWARD - that in itself should be at least indicative of longevity. Damn, the girl sneezes out one popular song and her name is associated with The Queen of Soul??? I don't think so.

this is so easy for Me: Prince:.Hit&Miss with Him since 88.Enjoyed the First Decade&think the Guy is One of the Greatest Talents Ever:but He is a Trip&Aside from Music I can't fully relate to Him&No Matter what it Be He is Promoting He is still the Same Prince.Dr.Dre: Enjoyed some of His Work but He crys so Damn Much&is a Walking Puppet&Follows whatever is Cool to do.Quincy Jones: Enjoy His Work&He is as Great as anyone in the History of Music IMHO but He Name Drops&is too Full of Hollywood at times for my taste.Mariah Carey:I Respect her Talent but off the stage She wouldn't seem like the kind of Person you could deal with.Berry Gordy: Great Music Mind but Personally He wasn't cool on the Business tip.Diana Ross: Enjoy Her as a Artist Early in Her Career until the Mid 80's but She Refuses to Get off the SuperStar Mind Set.Teddy Riley:Respect His Music Talent but He leaves alot of Angry Folks Off Stage that have worked with Him.Larry Graham: Great Musical Talent but He acts Like He is the Only JW in Showbusiness??there are many JW's in the Business that don't push there Cause on others. there are quite a few people i'd say this about.IMHO I'd say this about 95% of the People in the Biz.

Supernova said:

Awards are Bought&Manipulated.Soul-Less Train is all about the Now.Sadly they Miss the boat on there Rich Legacy in my Eyes.

Supernova said:

Still don't give her the right 2 diss ppl like they're ander her wings or work 4 her. Believe me I don't like Ashanti, her singing get me in the last nerve and I also dis-agree about giving her the award but you know what??

I'm totaly feeling Mistermaxxx on AWARD SHOWS, they went downhill and ppl shouldn't take 'em so damn seriously. So what if they gave her that award?? Big deal, does yo lives count on that?? If so then hey,,,!

Harlepolis said:

Well, like I said, I'm not convinced it's true so far.

"LIVING LEGENDS that you like their work(s) but you DON'T like 'em as ppl"

Ummm... Prince?!

When did Aretha diss Ashanti? This is the first I've heard of it.

Harlepolis said:

Huh?? Please elaborate!

Strange that four of these folks are Detroiters (Aretha, Diana and Madonna were born here (Aretha still lives here) and Rick James lived here for quite a while...)
Hope this doesn't reflect badly on the city!

applekisses said:

Actually Aretha is originally from Memphis.

Supernova said:

That award should be indicative of being really, really important and popular for a little while, then coasting on marketing and sales figures for 30 years while you sit on your fat ass and stop making good music.

you know, i really don't like this thing:
[This message was edited Tue Aug 13 9:13:23 PDT 2002 by tommyalma]

tommyalma said:

Show a little more insight.

I would have to say Madonna. IMO she's a skank who sucked and fucked her way to the top. She may be a good entertainer, but IMO she is not a good musician and she makes me sick.

DavidEye said:

You beat me to it, DavidEye.

kisscamille said:

When did she ever try to pass herself off as a musician?

She's an artist.

Oh brother, here we go. Don't get me started on this one. I might be back later to slay.

Supernova said:

No, because then we'll descend into pointless trivia-slinging. I've seen it happen before, and it's not pretty. Let's at least keep those kind of arguments to Prince-related items, right? And while I'm at it, I could really say the same thing about James Brown. "Hey, they were old, weird and socially irrelevant before you were born!" Hey, fat floats, and so has her career.

Witness?

tommyalma said:

I don't deal in trivia, so that assumption is off base. But to minimize Aretha Franklin's career because of what she weighs now is just silly.

Oh I hate to say it, but the three people i most admire musically are sometimes truely horrible people.
Prince
Bowie
Numan

Prince for reasons more eloquently posted elsewhere on this site.
Bowie for his greed, the continuous re-interpretations of his past that show him in a good light, and his constant pandering to the wishes and tastes of his critics.
Numan, again for his greed, and the seriously bad attitude that goes with it. As well as his sudden lack of conviction when a cheque is waved under his nose.

TheSkinMechanic said:

I've known many greedy people, it doesnt make them horrible people. Unless that greed leads to killing or raping someone, selling babies, or selling kids into a porn business I dont see the horribleness in it.

Who is Numan that guy from Seinfeld?

mistermaxxx said:

Awww c'mon Maxxx, you gotta bust loose on MJ The Man too...

Essence said:

I don't Like His Soft Persona that He plays on Tv because Dude is No Joke on His Money.He plays all Peter Pan on TV but the Cat is like "Dirty Harry" when it comes to His Dollars&Sense.He is a Stone Cold Trip off the stage.but You Know I've never Heard folks say a Bad thing about How he treats His Fans&Relates to them.so the Jury is still out on Him.

mistermaxxx said:

Yeah I don't buy the insipid, Peter Pan softie thing either. As you know I'm more suspicious of him and his real motives all the way round though.

I could name plenty of artist's who as a person don't enamour me, but the music must be taken as objectively as possible IMO.

applekisses said:

Hey,I was born in Detroit too! Maybe that's why I love these ladies so much...lol...

kisscamille said:

DO NOT get me started!