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Reply #60 posted 11/11/06 2:48am

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The problem with Latoya is that she is inconsistent. As someone said in her book which was published in the early 90s she goes on about how "Wonderful" MJ is. The only peeps she really trashes are her parents, especially her father. Not long after her book is published MJ was accused of Child abuse, then she claims he has been "abusing" boys all along, now why not mention that in her book or at least minimize her praise for him in the book, instead of making him look like the perfect brother who couldn't hurt a fly.

Then, when she finally divorces her husband, who apparently was also abusive, she then does a complete U-turn and says it was her husband who made her say MJ abuses children; I mean how inconsistent can one get. I am not saying she is not telling the truth in some of the things she has said about the family, it's just that she has said different things in different arenas. It's hard to take someone like that seriously.
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Reply #61 posted 11/11/06 5:19am

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Diddy said:

Latoya was told if she wasnt doing what she was suppose to do he (Jack Gordan who is a mafia hitman) could get Michael and Janet shot! There.....she was threatened. Joe Jackson had his dog killed and hang up on the fence.

Also there EXISTS a photo of Latoya, Jack Gordan and Evan Chandler who is a jew (father of Jordy) pictured together..... proof that the Mafia and CIA had involvment in MJ's 1993 case.


Where's this info from?
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Reply #62 posted 11/11/06 5:29am

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About Latoya, well she was drugged up, beatin and abused. Thats easy to control someone while their abused. Latoya even comfirmed that her marrige with Jack Gordan wasnt even sexual....that it was just a business relationship.

Latoya was told if she wasnt doing what she was suppose to do he (Jack Gordan who is a mafia hitman) could get Michael and Janet shot! There.....she was threatened. Joe Jackson had his dog killed and hang up on the fence.

Also there EXISTS a photo of Latoya, Jack Gordan and Evan Chandler who is a jew (father of Jordy) pictured together..... proof that the Mafia and CIA had involvment in MJ's 1993 case.


HA HA yopu keep telling yourself that.

Joe jackson ABUSED his kids and MJ has gone on to do the same!!
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Reply #63 posted 11/11/06 5:44am

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mikek1 said:

HA HA yopu keep telling yourself that.

Joe jackson ABUSED his kids and MJ has gone on to do the same!!


By all accounts Michael's children appear to be well adjusted and well looked after.
Doesn't sound like they're abused to me.

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Reply #64 posted 11/11/06 7:25am

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Cloudbuster said:

mikek1 said:



HA HA yopu keep telling yourself that.

Joe jackson ABUSED his kids and MJ has gone on to do the same!!


By all accounts Michael's children appear to be well adjusted and well look after.
Doesn't sound like they're abused to me.


WHAAT? You can tell if a kid is being abused. You must be smoking crack.
There not his kids for one and i didn't say he abused them but he has abused others
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Reply #65 posted 11/11/06 7:42am

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mikek1 said:

Cloudbuster said:



By all accounts Michael's children appear to be well adjusted and well look after.
Doesn't sound like they're abused to me.


WHAAT? You can tell if a kid is being abused. You must be smoking crack.
There not his kids for one and i didn't say he abused them but he has abused others


The only one smoking crack around here is you.
Legally they're his children even if not biologically, so that makes them... erm, his children.
Two alleged victims of sexual misconduct in 48 years, that would make him the world's most selective paedophile. Paedophiles are NOT that selective, which makes it highly unlikely that he's guilty of such crimes. Do your research instead of relying on the media to feed you shit.
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Reply #66 posted 11/11/06 7:53am

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Cloudbuster said:

mikek1 said:



WHAAT? You can tell if a kid is being abused. You must be smoking crack.
There not his kids for one and i didn't say he abused them but he has abused others


The only one smoking crack around here is you.
Legally they're his children even if not biologically, so that makes them... erm, his children.
Two alleged victims of sexual misconduct in 48 years, that would make him the world's most selective paedophile. Paedophiles are NOT that selective, which makes it highly unlikely that he's guilty of such crimes. Do your research instead of relying on the media to feed you shit.

Thanks Cloudy. I don´t have even energy to bother answering....
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #67 posted 11/11/06 8:02am

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dag said:

Thanks Cloudy. I don´t have even energy to bother answering....

Tiresome, ain't it.

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Reply #68 posted 11/11/06 9:51am

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Cloudbuster said:

mikek1 said:



WHAAT? You can tell if a kid is being abused. You must be smoking crack.
There not his kids for one and i didn't say he abused them but he has abused others


The only one smoking crack around here is you.
Legally they're his children even if not biologically, so that makes them... erm, his children.
Two alleged victims of sexual misconduct in 48 years, that would make him the world's most selective paedophile. Paedophiles are NOT that selective, which makes it highly unlikely that he's guilty of such crimes. Do your research instead of relying on the media to feed you shit.

Oh please... Most child abuse victims do not tell, so just because only two came forward it doesn't mean he has ONLY abused two. Having said that he was found "Not guilty" of abuse for a reason so for anyone to sit down there and definetly say he has abused lots of kids is obviously expressing their opinions and not the facts.
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Reply #69 posted 11/11/06 10:05am

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whatsgoingon said:

Oh please... Most child abuse victims do not tell, so just because only two came forward it doesn't mean he has ONLY abused two. Having said that he was found "Not guilty" of abuse for a reason so for anyone to sit down there and definetly say he has abused lots of kids is obviously expressing their opinions and not the facts.


Oh please, that's why the word "alleged" is there.
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Reply #70 posted 11/11/06 1:24pm

mikek1

Cloudbuster said:

mikek1 said:



WHAAT? You can tell if a kid is being abused. You must be smoking crack.
There not his kids for one and i didn't say he abused them but he has abused others


The only one smoking crack around here is you.
Legally they're his children even if not biologically, so that makes them... erm, his children.
Two alleged victims of sexual misconduct in 48 years, that would make him the world's most selective paedophile. Paedophiles are NOT that selective, which makes it highly unlikely that he's guilty of such crimes. Do your research instead of relying on the media to feed you shit.


2 alleged victims?

you must be joking.
SEVERAL people claimed to have been abused by MJ in the latest trial. One of these was a grown man who revealed this in front of his wife and mother in court for the first time.

Many people are abused and do not come forward becuase they feel humiliated.

There's also the english man who befriended michael has a boy who was shockefd when MJ started masturbating and asking sexual questions. Thos story came out without his approval and he was not seeking any money. He however confirmed the story was true!
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Reply #71 posted 11/11/06 1:32pm

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mikek1 said:

Cloudbuster said:



The only one smoking crack around here is you.
Legally they're his children even if not biologically, so that makes them... erm, his children.
Two alleged victims of sexual misconduct in 48 years, that would make him the world's most selective paedophile. Paedophiles are NOT that selective, which makes it highly unlikely that he's guilty of such crimes. Do your research instead of relying on the media to feed you shit.


2 alleged victims?

you must be joking.
SEVERAL people claimed to have been abused by MJ in the latest trial. One of these was a grown man who revealed this in front of his wife and mother in court for the first time.

Many people are abused and do not come forward becuase they feel humiliated.

There's also the english man who befriended michael has a boy who was shockefd when MJ started masturbating and asking sexual questions. Thos story came out without his approval and he was not seeking any money. He however confirmed the story was true!

I am not saying all those people are lying but he was found Not Guilty for a reason, bear that in mind..The fact of the matter there have people who have claimed MJ has abused them and taken it to court even though it was impossible that he was anywhere near them at time; like the guy who said he was abuse by the singer around the same time that MJ was collecting an award from Ronald Reagan in a completely different state..
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Reply #72 posted 11/11/06 9:41pm

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You have to remember that the young man, Jason Francia, who made the revelation in court was the same boy who repeatedly said that he was NOT molested. He said this even when police badgered him to admit something that he said did not happen. You also have to know, according to testimony during the trial, that Francia did not admit these things until a month before he was asked to testify. He said that Michael "tickled" him and the police kept insisting that he was molested.

As for the recent accuser, he is not a victim, this boy got on the stand and testified that Michael wanted nothing to do with him. He said that Michael would be at Neverland and pretend that he wasn't there. The jury, and even members of the media, noticed that the accuser, showed anger ONLY when he testifed that MJ did NOT want to be around him. Before that testimony, the kid was actually joking on the witness stand, and not taking anything serious. That was also noted by the jury. For the record, the jury said that they did not believe anything that this accuser said. They said that he was acting on the police video and that he was inconsistent with when this "molestation" was supposed to have happened. First, he said that he was molested the day after the Bashir interview was shown to the world. Now, even a serial pedophile wouldn't be that stupid. Then, he changed his story and said that he was molested three months later when he and his family were leaving Neverland.

The inconsistencies become more ridiculous wih each prosecution witness. It's a shame that this trial was not televised. The media and prosecution pundits did a damn good job of brainwashing the gullible public. Thank goodness, the jury was smart enough to see through this scam.
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Reply #73 posted 11/11/06 9:47pm

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whatsgoingon said:

The problem with Latoya is that she is inconsistent. As someone said in her book which was published in the early 90s she goes on about how "Wonderful" MJ is. The only peeps she really trashes are her parents, especially her father. Not long after her book is published MJ was accused of Child abuse, then she claims he has been "abusing" boys all along, now why not mention that in her book or at least minimize her praise for him in the book, instead of making him look like the perfect brother who couldn't hurt a fly.

Then, when she finally divorces her husband, who apparently was also abusive, she then does a complete U-turn and says it was her husband who made her say MJ abuses children; I mean how inconsistent can one get. I am not saying she is not telling the truth in some of the things she has said about the family, it's just that she has said different things in different arenas. It's hard to take someone like that seriously.


Of course, LaToya was inconsistent with her lies. That's because she was being told what to say by Jack Gordon. He was a low as they come. When they divorced, he went on different shows saying that LaToya had lied about what she said about Michael. LaToya said that Jack forced her to say those things. For the life of me, I don't know how Michael could forgive her for almost destroying his life, but that is the kind of man that he is. It was also said that LaToya was the one who was hysterical during these recent allegations because she knew that they weren't true. Maybe she was thinking that all of her past lies were being used against her brother, and she was right. I think if Michael had been convicted, she would have killed herself. She knows that her brother is not a molester.
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Reply #74 posted 11/13/06 4:05am

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dag said:

Diddy said:

This is the man who sold his children to the highest old man bidders, and Janet talks about having a very active sexual mind at a very young age, do i need to say more? thats enough to understand that she was most likely sexually abused, a child just doesnt suddenly have sex obsessions unless they were abused in someway.

Also, when kids are exposed to naked bodies, pornography, sex..... well that alone is sexual abuse. The Jackson children experienced all of that! Just because Michael and Janet dont talk or confirm it, doesnt mean they werent molested. I mean they were already molested when they were placed in that surrounding.

Than Lisa Marie Presley must have been sexually abused as well. lol

Maybe she was!! Its easy to believe that Latoya and Rebbie were molested yet not Janet and Michael?
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Reply #75 posted 11/13/06 4:07am

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Cloudbuster said:

Diddy said:

Latoya was told if she wasnt doing what she was suppose to do he (Jack Gordan who is a mafia hitman) could get Michael and Janet shot! There.....she was threatened. Joe Jackson had his dog killed and hang up on the fence.

Also there EXISTS a photo of Latoya, Jack Gordan and Evan Chandler who is a jew (father of Jordy) pictured together..... proof that the Mafia and CIA had involvment in MJ's 1993 case.


Where's this info from?

From kop board, Joseph Jackson the Golden Truth book.
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Reply #76 posted 11/13/06 4:18am

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mikek1 said:

Diddy said:

About Latoya, well she was drugged up, beatin and abused. Thats easy to control someone while their abused. Latoya even comfirmed that her marrige with Jack Gordan wasnt even sexual....that it was just a business relationship.

Latoya was told if she wasnt doing what she was suppose to do he (Jack Gordan who is a mafia hitman) could get Michael and Janet shot! There.....she was threatened. Joe Jackson had his dog killed and hang up on the fence.

Also there EXISTS a photo of Latoya, Jack Gordan and Evan Chandler who is a jew (father of Jordy) pictured together..... proof that the Mafia and CIA had involvment in MJ's 1993 case.


HA HA yopu keep telling yourself that.

Joe jackson ABUSED his kids and MJ has gone on to do the same!!

HA HA keep telling myself what? explain please.... And of course they were abused who didnt understand that.
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