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Printablelastdecember said: KidOmega said: No, but not everything is fair in that regard. It is an American institution, not responsible for making sure that every country is represented. There are international awards, etc. for that kind of thing, even within the Grammys. Why should all the types of Latin music be represented when all of the types of other music is not. This isn't about everyone being recognized. It's an awards competition. Not everyone goes home happy. Well in terms of american music there are plenty of forums where it is acknowledged, with shows like the CMA's, AMA's, Vibe Awards, Source Awards, BET awards, Soul train Awards, countless mtv shows, there is plenty of recognition going towards those genres. because those genres are popular in the US. when we see half of the top 10 CD's in country being latin music instead of country or hip hop, then you might have a point. At the Grammys, the Latin Music field has been shrunk to 4 awards, and gets no airtime on the event, despite it being the largest population and growing genre of music. Also there are many types of Latin Music, there is Pop/Rock, Salsa, merengue/Tropical, Tejano/Mexican,and now Reggaeton, so i think it is fair that it gets its own show.
That's fine. I just don't think it's fair that one genre of music gets its own GRAMMYS ceremony/broadcast. There are literally hundreds of Grammys that aren't televised. If they made it fair for those other people, so they could get their 30 seconds of primetime coverage, the Grammys would be on every night of the year. "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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KidOmega said:[quote] lastdecember said: because those genres are popular in the US. when we see half of the top 10 CD's in country being latin music instead of country or hip hop, then you might have a point. At the Grammys, the Latin Music field has been shrunk to 4 awards, and gets no airtime on the event, despite it being the largest population and growing genre of music. Also there are many types of Latin Music, there is Pop/Rock, Salsa, merengue/Tropical, Tejano/Mexican,and now Reggaeton, so i think it is fair that it gets its own show.
That's fine. I just don't think it's fair that one genre of music gets its own GRAMMYS ceremony/broadcast. There are literally hundreds of Grammys that aren't televised. If they made it fair for those other people, so they could get their 30 seconds of primetime coverage, the Grammys would be on every night of the year. I dont think its a question of fair or not, i remember back in the 90's Rap music fought for its chance to be televised and it got it, and now has a good portion of the show at times. So is it just the fact that the word Grammys is used that is the problem? if it was just called the Latin Music Awards would it be Ok? The thing is the genre has grown and far exceeds the others, plus like i said country already has 2 other shows, Rb /Pop/Rap/Hip Hop have 3-4 more shows during the year, Gospel also has its own show. Whether people like it or not Latin Music has grown faster than any other genre, Latin albums are now debuting in the Top 40 on the top 200 album charts, something that never used to happen before, but you cant just say well jam all those artists into 4 categories, I mean even Comedy gets 2 awards. Mainly because of the language barrier you will not see an artist like Alejandro Sanz nominated for Pop Male even though he outsells and is better. Of course Shakira is the scapegoat/token that everyone uses as an excuse, but outside of her english performances she was never given a performance chance or minute on the show. So you cannot blame the Grammy board for letting Latin Music have its own awards, since already this year we have seen Latin albums debuting higher than ever, Shakira,Alejandro,Mana all placed in the top 10 with Latin albums, Paulina rubio,Thalia and others in the top 40, so the debate that the genre doesnt sell enough is not a valid point or that Latin Music/Population isnt a big enough genre once again not valid. Its one 3 hour show, on a Latin network (which by the way gets more viewers than any major network) so its not cutting into to any of the other award shows, and honestly makes most of them look pretty bad. Just a side note what will the Grammys do this year with Reggaeton growing the way it has, what will it do with someone like Daddy Yankee? can u imagine the riot if he got put into the Rap category and won, it might happen since there is no grammy in that category, and the Grammies still does include Latin in its voting. [Edited 11/6/06 22:52pm] [Edited 11/6/06 22:53pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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KidOmega said: sextonseven said: There is a lot more Latin music out there than what is acknowledged on the regular grammys. We're talking about music from more than an entire continent being covered by six awards on the regular show. Can't say that for those other types of music you mentioned. No, but not everything is fair in that regard. It is an American institution, not responsible for making sure that every country is represented. There are international awards, etc. for that kind of thing, even within the Grammys. Why should all the types of Latin music be represented when all of the types of other music is not. This isn't about everyone being recognized. It's an awards competition. Not everyone goes home happy. Today Latin music IS American music. Latinos make up the majority in the state of California and Latin radio stations are doing big business nationwide. Latin music was more underepresented than any other genre. That's why it gets its own awards show. | |
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KidOmega said: because those genres are popular in the US. when we see half of the top 10 CD's in country being latin music instead of country or hip hop, then you might have a point. There are a lot more variations of Latin music than there are country or hip hop. That's fine. I just don't think it's fair that one genre of music gets its own GRAMMYS ceremony/broadcast. There are literally hundreds of Grammys that aren't televised. If they made it fair for those other people, so they could get their 30 seconds of primetime coverage, the Grammys would be on every night of the year.
It's not about being televised, it's about existing in the first place. There were no Latin grammys to award off air. | |
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sextonseven said: KidOmega said: No, but not everything is fair in that regard. It is an American institution, not responsible for making sure that every country is represented. There are international awards, etc. for that kind of thing, even within the Grammys. Why should all the types of Latin music be represented when all of the types of other music is not. This isn't about everyone being recognized. It's an awards competition. Not everyone goes home happy. Today Latin music IS American music. Latinos make up the majority in the state of California and Latin radio stations are doing big business nationwide. Latin music was more underepresented than any other genre. That's why it gets its own awards show. Fine, then Latin music should be limited to the same coverage that any other genre gets on the Grammys, instead of its own entire show. Which means between 1 and 3 awards broadcast. "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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sextonseven said: KidOmega said: because those genres are popular in the US. when we see half of the top 10 CD's in country being latin music instead of country or hip hop, then you might have a point. There are a lot more variations of Latin music than there are country or hip hop. That's fine. I just don't think it's fair that one genre of music gets its own GRAMMYS ceremony/broadcast. There are literally hundreds of Grammys that aren't televised. If they made it fair for those other people, so they could get their 30 seconds of primetime coverage, the Grammys would be on every night of the year.
It's not about being televised, it's about existing in the first place. There were no Latin grammys to award off air. You don't think going from 0 awards televised to an entire 2+ hour broadcast is swinging it a little bit in the direction of ridiculous? "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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KidOmega said: sextonseven said: Today Latin music IS American music. Latinos make up the majority in the state of California and Latin radio stations are doing big business nationwide. Latin music was more underepresented than any other genre. That's why it gets its own awards show. Fine, then Latin music should be limited to the same coverage that any other genre gets on the Grammys, instead of its own entire show. Which means between 1 and 3 awards broadcast. No because Latin music is MORE underepresented than any other genre. | |
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KidOmega said: sextonseven said: It's not about being televised, it's about existing in the first place. There were no Latin grammys to award off air. You don't think going from 0 awards televised to an entire 2+ hour broadcast is swinging it a little bit in the direction of ridiculous? When you consider all the different types of Latin music that exists, not at all. | |
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sextonseven said: KidOmega said: Fine, then Latin music should be limited to the same coverage that any other genre gets on the Grammys, instead of its own entire show. Which means between 1 and 3 awards broadcast. No because Latin music is MORE underepresented than any other genre. what about spoken word? should there be an entire telecast for the spoken word Grammy categories since they've never gotten on TV? "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life. " -- Edith Massey in Female Trouble | |
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