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Thread started 10/25/06 6:40pm

KingKrazy

Ciara's new video - Promise

http://www.youtube.com/wa...2u7TCSNaXQ

Jesus Christ, shorty is bad, and it aint even funny

i would destroy her pussy in every way but i digress

the song is crazy, and different from her last three big hits she had, a smooth midtempo ballad
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Reply #1 posted 10/25/06 6:48pm

StillDirrty

This video is amazing! eek
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/06 6:55pm

JackieBlue

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Damn. eek One of the comments described the video as weird. It is weird but I sorta liked it. Her rockin' the sweat suit reminds me so much of Aaliyah but Ciara is making her own way. That part with the microphone stand is killer.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #3 posted 10/25/06 7:39pm

phunkdaddy

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I love the song. I love her. She is the most beautiful woman
on this planet. She has already passed janet and beyonce as the
top diva heading into the remainder of this decade. Ciara
wouldn't have to let me hit it. I would lick her clean. razz
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/06 7:43pm

DanceWme

phunkdaddy said:

I love the song. I love her. She is the most beautiful woman
on this planet. She has already passed janet and beyonce as the
top diva heading into the remainder of this decade. Ciara
wouldn't have to let me hit it. I would lick her clean. razz

falloff
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Reply #5 posted 10/25/06 9:10pm

TheBoyfromtheB
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that was the hottest video like, ever, straight up
yea, i know...
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Reply #6 posted 10/25/06 9:14pm

thesexofit

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Wow, those keyboards in the back are straight outta a Julio Iglesias record. In other words, MOR eek

She sounds awful multitracked on the chorus, WTF happened?
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Reply #7 posted 10/25/06 10:05pm

twink69

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You think Janet is watching thining, "why didnt I think of that, for my first single"
Actually I think Janet is saying that while watching Ciara's career unfold
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/06 10:06pm

twink69

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phunkdaddy said:

I love the song. I love her. She is the most beautiful woman
on this planet. She has already passed janet and beyonce as the
top diva heading into the remainder of this decade. Ciara
wouldn't have to let me hit it. I would lick her clean. razz


Bow Wow? Pha?
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Reply #9 posted 10/25/06 10:23pm

BlaqueKnight

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The video has its moments. It looks underproduced. Its just such a hot ass song that it doesn't matter as much. I like the microphone scene. Ciara is snatching Janet's crown from her.
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/06 11:30pm

CinisterCee

The song on its own is hot. I was already anticipating her CD horny
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Reply #11 posted 10/26/06 1:27am

PleasurePrinci
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hotness...yall already know how I feel about the song,,,very prince-ish~now the video is lookin very prince girl-ish~lovin it~go cici! dancing jig
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Reply #12 posted 10/26/06 1:56am

Rhondab

I kept sayin' folks are sleeping on Ciara...nod
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Reply #13 posted 10/26/06 4:50am

twink69

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Rhondab said:

I kept sayin' folks are sleeping on Ciara...nod


2 billboard #1 singles or so, millions of copies sold of her debut is hardly slept on
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Reply #14 posted 10/26/06 4:59am

Christopher

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i read she just turned 21...i thought she was 18?! lol
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Reply #15 posted 10/26/06 5:54am

Rhondab

twink69 said:

Rhondab said:

I kept sayin' folks are sleeping on Ciara...nod


2 billboard #1 singles or so, millions of copies sold of her debut is hardly slept on



uh...i'm talking about on this site but thanks for that info...lol.
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Reply #16 posted 10/26/06 6:06am

PricelessHo

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not too crazy about the song, but the video's so good.

i think it'll per4m very well on the charts
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Reply #17 posted 10/26/06 6:15am

shorttrini

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KingKrazy said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32u7TCSNaXQ

Jesus Christ, shorty is bad, and it aint even funny

i would destroy her pussy in every way but i digress

the song is crazy, and different from her last three big hits she had, a smooth midtempo ballad


And how do you REALLY feel about her!!!LOL Just kidding...

Ciara is all ready a force to be reckoned with. Janet and the others should be taking notes. While her voice should have a little more body to it, (IMO), she is slowing becoming a star in her own right. It is a shame that icons like Janet are not putting out material like this. These "new jacks", seem to be a lot hungrier than the vets. Maybe Janet and the others are taking their talent and the fact that they will always have a fanbase, for granted? hmmmm.....To paraphrase a verse from one of her brother's songs,"Just look over your shoulders honey", cause we'll be there" and they will be there sooner than she thinks, if she and the others are not carefull, to take over the top spot.
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #18 posted 10/26/06 6:21am

JackieBlue

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I can not get the song out of my head. I went to play it and realized I hadn’t uploaded it to my player yet. Argh.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #19 posted 10/26/06 10:56am

Scorpion

Janet's former choreographer, Tina Landon, worked with Ciara for this video.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #20 posted 10/26/06 11:53am

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Scorpion said:

Janet's former choreographer, Tina Landon, worked with Ciara for this video.



I was just about to post that info.... in the immortal words of Florida Evans
DAMN, DAMN, DAMN..... Tina Landon still got the heat lol
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Reply #21 posted 10/26/06 12:03pm

CinisterCee

I wanna take that "back of the jacket wrapped over the shoulders/arms" look (1:34) to the busstop and see if it catches on. smile
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Reply #22 posted 10/26/06 12:07pm

JackieBlue

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banks said:

Scorpion said:

Janet's former choreographer, Tina Landon, worked with Ciara for this video.



I was just about to post that info.... in the immortal words of Florida Evans
DAMN, DAMN, DAMN..... Tina Landon still got the heat lol



Good for her. That would explain the hotness.
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Reply #23 posted 10/26/06 3:40pm

ABeautifulOne

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CinisterCee said:

I wanna take that "back of the jacket wrapped over the shoulders/arms" look (1:34) to the busstop and see if it catches on. smile

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Reply #24 posted 10/26/06 4:03pm

Isel

I also have to give a shout-out to Barry Lather--also a former Janet choreographer (Pleasure Principle)--who is artistic director for Ciara's entire promo tour. Barry is always overlooked, but that guy has choreographed most recently for Mariah, Usher, and now Ciara. He "oversees" the entire concept. Barry is a legend in the commercial dance market. He has been around for many years and has worked on a variety of projects with many artists as well as TV and movies. I wish he would find the time to be Janet's artistic director, then let Gil just work as head choreographer.

Now this is a question I have for you all about Ciara. I saw her perform on "So You Think You Can Dance," as was underwhelmed with her dancing and vocal ability..(she lip-synched.) What I don't understand about some of you guys is that you all criticize Janet but support Ciara when Ciara is no more talented of a vocalist at least than Janet. Dancewise... I don't know. To me Janet even at the same age was more sophisticated than Ciara--, but I haven't seen this new video yet. Ciara as a dancer lacks some "polish" as was quite evident on "So You Think You Can Dance" when she and her back-up dancers could easily be compared and contrasted to the more technical dancers on that show.

Just watched the video. Ciara doesn't dance too much. confused She does some isolations and body rolls. I don't think this is really a major choreographic piece but more of a performance. It's a visually wonderfully video and the song is good. The choreography is understated but effective. Maybe that's what Janet needs to do?? Maybe Janet should go back to less intricate choreography with less focus on club dance.
It was a good video. I still don't think Ciara is as gifted as a dancer compared to Janet--but Ciara is good at what she does.

I just think it's strange that people think Ciara is so great when I don't see Ciara as a "vocal" talent at all even though she might be considered by some as a great dancer--and that's debatable, too.

Why do you all like Ciara but not Janet anymore?
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Reply #25 posted 10/26/06 7:35pm

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Isel said:

I also have to give a shout-out to Barry Lather--also a former Janet choreographer (Pleasure Principle)--who is artistic director for Ciara's entire promo tour. Barry is always overlooked, but that guy has choreographed most recently for Mariah, Usher, and now Ciara. He "oversees" the entire concept. Barry is a legend in the commercial dance market. He has been around for many years and has worked on a variety of projects with many artists as well as TV and movies. I wish he would find the time to be Janet's artistic director, then let Gil just work as head choreographer.

Now this is a question I have for you all about Ciara. I saw her perform on "So You Think You Can Dance," as was underwhelmed with her dancing and vocal ability..(she lip-synched.) What I don't understand about some of you guys is that you all criticize Janet but support Ciara when Ciara is no more talented of a vocalist at least than Janet. Dancewise... I don't know. To me Janet even at the same age was more sophisticated than Ciara--, but I haven't seen this new video yet. Ciara as a dancer lacks some "polish" as was quite evident on "So You Think You Can Dance" when she and her back-up dancers could easily be compared and contrasted to the more technical dancers on that show.

Just watched the video. Ciara doesn't dance too much. confused She does some isolations and body rolls. I don't think this is really a major choreographic piece but more of a performance. It's a visually wonderfully video and the song is good. The choreography is understated but effective. Maybe that's what Janet needs to do?? Maybe Janet should go back to less intricate choreography with less focus on club dance.
It was a good video. I still don't think Ciara is as gifted as a dancer compared to Janet--but Ciara is good at what she does.

I just think it's strange that people think Ciara is so great when I don't see Ciara as a "vocal" talent at all even though she might be considered by some as a great dancer--and that's debatable, too.

Why do you all like Ciara but not Janet anymore?
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Because Janet has become complacent and too polished. Janet's sound is the same no matter what cd you buy. I never said that Ciara was a great vocalist. She can use some work on breathe control.But, she is bringing something new to the table. This is something that Janet should be doing, instead of relying on the same old moves and interludes.....I think part of the reason that her cd is not doing well, is because it is too safe and lacks substance and bite.
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #26 posted 10/26/06 7:45pm

TommyRoss

I'm just not into it, I guess. I actually laughed out loud when she rode the microphone like she was going down with the Titanic. Silly. The song's just okay and could be good with somebody who can sing.
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Reply #27 posted 10/26/06 7:46pm

Scorpion

Ciara's routines have been hotter than anything Janet has done in recent years in terms of dancing. She racked up the woman responsible for some of Janet's best choreography & is mastering Janet better than the woman herself these days. That opening mic scene shitted on anything Janet did in that $3 million "Call On Me" video. I hope this inspires Janet to step up her game, get rid of those dates recycled moves & do something impressive to show us why she's made it the last 20 years. You're right Isel, CiCi doesn't seem to have much vocal talent either...I mean she is riding on that no-talent whispering schtick Janet is on too. confused
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #28 posted 10/26/06 8:19pm

Isel

Scorpion said:

Ciara's routines have been hotter than anything Janet has done in recent years in terms of dancing. She racked up the woman responsible for some of Janet's best choreography & is mastering Janet better than the woman herself these days. That opening mic scene shitted on anything Janet did in that $3 million "Call On Me" video. I hope this inspires Janet to step up her game, get rid of those dates recycled moves & do something impressive to show us why she's made it the last 20 years. You're right Isel, CiCi doesn't seem to have much vocal talent either...I mean she is riding on that no-talent whispering schtick Janet is on too. confused



Oh... COM wasn't my favorite. lol lol Oh... well no. I was very "excited" about "So Excited," though. But comparing S.EX to Ciara's effort in a way, The Promise was more sophisticated in concept. Janet is nearly "lost" among the dancers in "All Nite," and "S.EX." As I recall, Janet was never "lost" in her past videos. Of course, my favorite videos of all-time are the very "minimalists" concepts like "Love Will Never Do," "I Get Lonely," Pleasure Principle, Got Till It's Gone. Now, the dance videos.. like RN, Control, If--even those "feature" Janet more in contrast to her recent efforts.

I tell ya as I said, what I really enjoyed about Ciara's video is that "minimalist" concept. I loved the understated choreography and performance quality--with the dancers not overpowering Ciara, ya know? I understand why people like Ciara's video. Yeah.. Honestly, that sort of style really appeals to me. Sometimes less is more.

But vocally--I agree that Ciara and Janet are about the same as far a quality.

Just comparing the two as far as video artists, I think Janet appears to be trying too hard in her recent efforts-- or maybe her team is trying too hard. Maybe that's the whole problem as far as being more accessible to the general public.

If Janet doesn't want to bring back Tina, I wish she would at least bring Barry back. I'm telling ya'll that guy is considered a "visionary" when it comes to concepts involving dance videos. I really wish she would hire Barry as artistic director, then use Gil as head choreographer. I don't think Janet will work with Tina again. Now stranger things have happened... but I have this feeling that Janet just won't work with her. I just don't think Gil has the experience or the unique vision as say a Barry Lather or Jamie King. Gil has good ideas as far as dance moves well maybe not good enough compared to some others...(and I really hate to say that.) But for sure concepts, there are others who just have a more creative vision--even when re-cycling old ideas.
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Reply #29 posted 10/26/06 10:00pm

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i fucking love this song and video so much! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
"You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride"
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