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Thread started 10/23/06 1:39pm

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Madonna Takes It to Oprah

Madonna Takes It to Oprah
by Sarah Hall
Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:32 AM PDT
http://www.eonline.com/ne...28ed9c53fa


Madonna is taking her Malawian adoption controversy to the highest court of public opinion: The Oprah Winfrey Show.

The Material Mom will chat with the Queen of Daytime about her decision to adopt 13-month-old David Banda in an interview taping Tuesday and airing Wednesday, a spokesperson for Harpo Productions said Monday.

The sit-down will mark the singer's first televised interview since she revealed earlier this month that she would be adding a son to her family and subsequently set off a maelstrom of heated international debate.

Despite her insistence that she followed the proper legal channels in adopting David, the proposed adoption has been challenged by human rights groups, who have accused Malawian officials of bending the rules for the celebrity in order to expedite the process.

Meanwhile, in a new twist seemingly tailor-made for good TV, the boy's father, Yohane Banda, now says he did not understand that "adoption" meant that he would be giving up custody of David permanently.

"If we were told she wants to take the baby as her own, we would not have consented, because I see no reason why I should give up my son," Banda told the Associated Press on Sunday.

Banda, who was forced to put David in an orphanage after his wife's death, has previously expressed his support for Madonna's actions and chastised the groups opposing the adoption.

"These so-called human rights groups should leave my baby alone," he told the Associated Press last week. "As father, I have okayed this—I have no problem. The village has no problem. Who are they to cause trouble? Please let them stop."

But the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life. He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up, he will return back home to his village.

"I am just now realizing the meaning of 'adoption,' " he added.

There was no comment from Madonna's camp with regard to Banda's statements.

Last week, the singer penned an open letter stressing that she began the adoption the process many months before her trip to Malawi, and that she had abided by the same rules as "anyone else who adopts a child."

Even so, the Human Rights Consultative Committee, a coalition of 67 Malawi-based human rights organizations, has filed a lawsuit seeking to overturn the court waiver granting the "Like a Prayer" singer custody of David.

A hearing on the suit was scheduled for last Friday, but was pushed back a week to give government officials time to prepare.

An attorney for the Ritchies said the couple was ready to face any challenges to their adoption.
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Reply #1 posted 10/23/06 9:46pm

CinisterCee

Damn.
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Reply #2 posted 10/23/06 9:56pm

badujunkie

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I hate when Madonna's between albums and not on tour. Can't she EVER just go away from the mainstream media and make us fans miss her? This doesn't seem like a planned publicity stunt but...fuck, even as a die hard fan I'm sick of hearing about this shit.

I hate Oprah.

But you know I'll watch that yawn fest.
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Reply #3 posted 10/23/06 9:58pm

CinisterCee

I'll catch it on youtube or somethin. I don't even really care how this turns out.
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/06 11:00pm

sallysassalot

madonna will get the child. and he will turn out to be the antichrist.
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/06 11:18pm

CHIC0

sallysassalot said:

madonna will get the child. and he will turn out to be the antichrist.



then that would make Guy ..... eek
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Reply #6 posted 10/24/06 2:34am

SoulAlive

badujunkie said:

I hate when Madonna's between albums and not on tour. Can't she EVER just go away from the mainstream media and make us fans miss her? This doesn't seem like a planned publicity stunt but...fuck, even as a die hard fan I'm sick of hearing about this shit.I hate Oprah.But you know I'll watch that yawn fest.



in all fairness,Madonna didn't plan this controversy.In fact,she kept the adoption a secret until the very end,when she could no longer deny the rumors.Madonna's problem is,the media focuses on her every move.Hell,even when she changes her hairstyle,it's in all the tabloids,lol.But it's not her fault that people obsess over her every move.
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Reply #7 posted 10/24/06 2:41am

SoulAlive

"the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life.He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up,he will return back home to his village"


confuse when David is grown,he probably might return back home,but I don't know why the father is thinking that far ahead.His comments are conflicting and make no sense.
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Reply #8 posted 10/24/06 3:52am

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SoulAlive said:

"the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life.He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up,he will return back home to his village"


confuse when David is grown,he probably might return back home,but I don't know why the father is thinking that far ahead.His comments are conflicting and make no sense.


its not odd for some to "send" their children off for a better education and life and believe the child will come back to help the family later. I actually know an african woman whose family did that very thing. Sent her here for an education and she returns every so often to help her family. shrug

I'm not saying Madonna had anything to do with this adoption going badly but no telling what they may have told this man and his family.
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Reply #9 posted 10/24/06 4:09am

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Ugh, wy Oprah? Even people I like turn into sycophantic pricks when they go near Oprah. She just has that effect on people.
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Reply #10 posted 10/24/06 4:18am

SoulAlive

Rhondab said:

SoulAlive said:

"the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life.He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up,he will return back home to his village"


confuse when David is grown,he probably might return back home,but I don't know why the father is thinking that far ahead.His comments are conflicting and make no sense.


its not odd for some to "send" their children off for a better education and life and believe the child will come back to help the family later. I actually know an african woman whose family did that very thing. Sent her here for an education and she returns every so often to help her family. shrug

I'm not saying Madonna had anything to do with this adoption going badly but no telling what they may have told this man and his family.



I actually think the son will come back to help out his father.As he gets older,he's gonna be curious about his father,his heritage,etc. The father doesn't have to worry about a thing.


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Reply #11 posted 10/24/06 4:27am

SoulAlive

Rhondab said:

I'm not saying Madonna had anything to do with this adoption going badly but no telling what they may have told this man and his family.



As I said in another thread,Madonna could have saved herself alot of trouble if she had adopted a child who has no living parents.There's no telling what David's father could do in the future.He could "change his mind" and decide that he wants his son back...he could demand lots of money from her...he could go to the tabloids and exploit his "connections" with Madonna,etc.Right now,this adoption is only temporary.She may wanna think long and hard about what could happen in the future.

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Reply #12 posted 10/24/06 5:06am

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Well, I doubt I'll be able to watch this, but I'm sure it will be on the fan sites in no time! wink

I'm pretty confused about Oprah myself, I try to avoid her sappy show. But going on makes sense: with such a huge audience it's a "bully pulpit" for M to give her side of the story.

I'll be interested to see how this whole affair plays out. Hard to know what to think, since so far most of the "information" about it is coming from UK tabloids.
Then again, they had the basic adoption story right even when Liz Rosenberg was still flatly denying it! WTH was that all about? I guess they (M and company) thought this could somehow be pushed back under the radar even after the tabloids had the story.
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Reply #14 posted 10/24/06 9:21am

MikeMatronik

CandaceS said:

Well, I doubt I'll be able to watch this, but I'm sure it will be on the fan sites in no time! wink

I'm pretty confused about Oprah myself, I try to avoid her sappy show. But going on makes sense: with such a huge audience it's a "bully pulpit" for M to give her side of the story.

I'll be interested to see how this whole affair plays out. Hard to know what to think, since so far most of the "information" about it is coming from UK tabloids.
Then again, they had the basic adoption story right even when Liz Rosenberg was still flatly denying it! WTH was that all about? I guess they (M and company) thought this could somehow be pushed back under the radar even after the tabloids had the story.
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CandaceS, don't forget to buy the popcorn hun! We are gonna have a blast reading the aftermath thread here at org! cool
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Reply #15 posted 10/24/06 4:35pm

origmnd

people need to stop giving her so much attention.

It should be that she has to sell her pussy at a ranch to get publicity
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Reply #16 posted 10/24/06 5:08pm

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Oprah audience member says Madonna blames media for adopt firestorm.

Madonna told Oprah Winfrey on Tuesday she was surprised by the firestorm surrounding her efforts to adopt a 13-month-old boy from the African country of Malawi. And she blamed the media.

Madonna taped the interview via satellite from London, for airing Wednesday. It was the first time she’d spoken publicly in depth about the adoption.

According to a member of the ``Oprah Winfrey Show’’ audience, Madonna said she was startled by press reports about the toddler’s father, Yohane Banda, who was quoted last week as saying he didn’t realize he was signing away custody of his son, David, ``for good.’’

``She said she met with the father, she looked him in the eye,’’ audience member Sheryl Lewis recounted.

Madonna, Lewis added, said she acted according to the law and had both ``oral and written approval ... and now the press have gotten to him.’’

In an interview posted Tuesday on Time magazine’s Web site, Banda said, for his son’s sake, he will not contest the adoption.

``I don’t want my child, who is already gone to come back,’’ he said. ``I will be killing his future if I accept that.’’

Madonna told the ``Oprah’’ audience that she and her husband, Guy Ritchie, had been thinking about adoption for more than two years, said Lewis, who lives in Deerfield, Ill.

Another ``Oprah’’ audience member, Amanda Bannon of Crawfordsville, Ind., told ABC News that ``the biggest thing was that Madonna wants to get the point across that she doesn’t want this to be a discouragement to other families to not adopt.’’

Source: The Associated Press.
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Reply #17 posted 10/24/06 5:28pm

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Ok before reading any of the comments other posters have made I'll just say this with respect to the E On Line article.

1) Madonna's adoption of this kid seems like she's jumping on a new celeb fad.
2) She did not go through all the channels that others have to becuase last I checked ole' girl did not live in Africa for 18 months prior to adopting the boy.

3) I don't care that she wants to adopt an orphaned kid but ... ehh it just smacks of publicity stunt or trying to keep up with the jones.

4) Going on Oprah is not going to change 1 & 2 (see above).

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[b]Madonna Takes It to Oprah
by Sarah Hall
Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:32 AM PDT
http://www.eonline.com/ne...28ed9c53fa


[snip]



Meanwhile, in a new twist seemingly tailor-made for good TV, the boy's father, Yohane Banda, now says he did not understand that "adoption" meant that he would be giving up custody of David permanently.

"If we were told she wants to take the baby as her own, we would not have consented, because I see no reason why I should give up my son," Banda told the Associated Press on Sunday.

Banda, who was forced to put David in an orphanage after his wife's death, has previously expressed his support for Madonna's actions and chastised the groups opposing the adoption.

"These so-called human rights groups should leave my baby alone," he told the Associated Press last week. "As father, I have okayed this—I have no problem. The village has no problem. Who are they to cause trouble? Please let them stop."

But the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life. He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up, he will return back home to his village.

"I am just now realizing the meaning of 'adoption,' " he added.




this guy's completely full of shit and has been coached by these so-called human rights groups to change his story because he smells a bigger payday on the way.


he didn't know he was signing away the rights to his child when he put him up for adoption? where did he think the kid's been since then? he's just looking for a meal ticket now.
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Reply #21 posted 10/24/06 11:51pm

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Well Oprah is a great place for her to plead her case, those trained seals in the audience will applaud for anything.
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/06 12:05am

SoulAlive

Tessa said:

[b]Madonna Takes It to Oprah
by Sarah Hall
Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:20:32 AM PDT
http://www.eonline.com/ne...28ed9c53fa


[snip]



Meanwhile, in a new twist seemingly tailor-made for good TV, the boy's father, Yohane Banda, now says he did not understand that "adoption" meant that he would be giving up custody of David permanently.

"If we were told she wants to take the baby as her own, we would not have consented, because I see no reason why I should give up my son," Banda told the Associated Press on Sunday.

Banda, who was forced to put David in an orphanage after his wife's death, has previously expressed his support for Madonna's actions and chastised the groups opposing the adoption.

"These so-called human rights groups should leave my baby alone," he told the Associated Press last week. "As father, I have okayed this—I have no problem. The village has no problem. Who are they to cause trouble? Please let them stop."

But the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life. He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up, he will return back home to his village.

"I am just now realizing the meaning of 'adoption,' " he added.




this guy's completely full of shit and has been coached by these so-called human rights groups to change his story because he smells a bigger payday on the way.


he didn't know he was signing away the rights to his child when he put him up for adoption? where did he think the kid's been since then? he's just looking for a meal ticket now.


I agree.This guy seems shady to me.It's clear that he is being coached by the media.Expect him to sell his story to all the tabloids.This is why I said Madonna should have adopted a child who has no parents.It would be less drama.
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Reply #23 posted 10/25/06 12:26am

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SoulAlive said:

Tessa said:




this guy's completely full of shit and has been coached by these so-called human rights groups to change his story because he smells a bigger payday on the way.


he didn't know he was signing away the rights to his child when he put him up for adoption? where did he think the kid's been since then? he's just looking for a meal ticket now.


I agree.This guy seems shady to me.It's clear that he is being coached by the media.Expect him to sell his story to all the tabloids.This is why I said Madonna should have adopted a child who has no parents.It would be less drama.



Yeah I'm glad he's poor, hungry and desolate, serves him right for wanting question her Madgesty.




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Reply #24 posted 10/25/06 1:10am

MikeMatronik

These madonna threads are becoming pathetic! confused
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SoulAlive

lazycrockett said:

SoulAlive said:



I agree.This guy seems shady to me.It's clear that he is being coached by the media.Expect him to sell his story to all the tabloids.This is why I said Madonna should have adopted a child who has no parents.It would be less drama.



Yeah I'm glad he's poor, hungry and desolate, serves him right for wanting question her Madgesty.


Oh please..each day,he's telling a completely different story.Last week,he was saying that he approved of the adoption and that the human rights groups are just "jealous of my son"....a few days ago,he was saying that he isn't sure what the word "adoption" really means....and now,he's saying that he won't contest the adoption after all.

As for him being poor,hungry and desolate.....that will change real soon.He'll find some way to cash in,and the tabloids are already writing checks,lol.
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SoulAlive said:

lazycrockett said:




Yeah I'm glad he's poor, hungry and desolate, serves him right for wanting question her Madgesty.


Oh please..each day,he's telling a completely different story.Last week,he was saying that he approved of the adoption and that the human rights groups are just "jealous of my son"....a few days ago,he was saying that he isn't sure what the word "adoption" really means....and now,he's saying that he won't contest the adoption after all.

As for him being poor,hungry and desolate.....that will change real soon.He'll find some way to cash in,and the tabloids are already writing checks,lol.



well then good for him
maybe he will make enough money to get his son back.
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Reply #27 posted 10/25/06 1:35am

Ottensen

lazycrockett said:

Well Oprah is a great place for her to plead her case, those trained seals in the audience will applaud for anything.


Y'all kill me referring to those of us who like Oprah with insults and epithets.confused
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Reply #28 posted 10/25/06 1:38am

Ottensen

It really is a shame. All this hoopla just because a woman fell in love with a tiny human being and wants to spare it some misery. The media's priorities are screwed. confused
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Reply #29 posted 10/25/06 1:53am

SoulAlive

Ottensen said:

It really is a shame. All this hoopla just because a woman fell in love with a tiny human being and wants to spare it some misery. The media's priorities are screwed. confused



Exactly.
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