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Justin Timberlake, Lets be honest here.... For the last month or so, many have praised his new album as the best Pop album, a great artistic growth and things like that. But seriously what is he doing here that Britney Spears didnt do on "In the Zone", which i dont think anyone really praised for her experimenting, working with new people like Moby and others. But Justin does this album and gets the "Second Coming" praise, i mean really, lets not get crazy, the only thing hes got over Britney is the voice and Ego. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Justin has the look, the producer, the hype, the video budget, and some talent. In a world where wars can be fought on imaginary threats, Justin can be billed as music's savior.
he's way too reliant on producers to be a true artist. But he's good for what he does. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Frankly, I was bored with his album after 3 tracks. [Edited 10/23/06 16:07pm] | |
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I can't imagine JT being a success in 10yr's time without the backing of MTV etc, i could be wrong, but i doubt it. |
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namepeace said: Justin has the look, the producer, the hype, the video budget, and some talent. In a world where wars can be fought on imaginary threats, Justin can be billed as music's savior.
he's way too reliant on producers to be a true artist. But he's good for what he does. In other words, Justin has a cock! I don't know that Britney broke new ground with "In The Zone". For my money, it was an album that tried to hard to do everything, be very modern and non-"Britney". From what've heard of his new album, it's basically an extention of his first, which doesn't seem like a terrible thing except this time he uses Prince as an inspiration instead of MJ....Wonder what the Madonna album will sound like? | |
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I don't see what's the big seal about him either, he's not good looking, his dancing is average and his voice is just ok but I did purchase the uptempo tracks of his new album on iTunes but it's because of Timbaland's awesome beats. [Edited 10/23/06 13:34pm] | |
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I only like the way he dances...thats it! | |
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I think at best he could accomplish what Madonna did musically (definitely not culturally, though)
She had just enough talent & taste to choose the right producers & collaborators, and to be stylish and even seem innovative to some, without ever being a great musician. My Legacy
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jtfolden said: Frankly, I was bored with his albums after 3 tracks.
But the album doesn't really get started until track 4!  | |
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namepeace said: Justin has the look, the producer, the hype, the video budget, and some talent. In a world where wars can be fought on imaginary threats, Justin can be billed as music's savior.
he's way too reliant on producers to be a true artist. But he's good for what he does. True which is why i am saying, Britney's "in the Zone" was just as good, actually a better statement of growth, in a genre where growth is measured on what beat you sample. I mean she is just as good as him, she has the look, the moves, maybe not a voice, but there are quite a few pop icons that dont have good voices. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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He is a soulless hack. "when Im in those arms of yours I'm so gone"-With U/Janet | |
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What's the difference between JT and Britney?
Timbaland.... | |
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murph said: What's the difference between JT and Britney?
Timbaland....  | |
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the difference between the justin cd and britney's in the zone, i think, is that britney made the wise choice of letting other people shape the sound whereas justin had a vision in mind and worked with people who could execute the vision. its just a hunch, obviously, as i don't know either pop star personally. it just seems like justin's previous small club live shows have alluded to this sort of development.
i think justin is doing what madonna has done her entire career. he may not have the skills to go it alone but he at least knows what's what when it comes to getting the job done the way he wants it. i like a little more than half of the cd. is it genius, music-saving material? no, certainly not. but it gets me up and moving and at the end of the day that is what pop music is made for. | |
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sallysassalot said: the difference between the justin cd and britney's in the zone, i think, is that britney made the wise choice of letting other people shape the sound whereas justin had a vision in mind and worked with people who could execute the vision. its just a hunch, obviously, as i don't know either pop star personally. it just seems like justin's previous small club live shows have alluded to this sort of development.
i think justin is doing what madonna has done her entire career. he may not have the skills to go it alone but he at least knows what's what when it comes to getting the job done the way he wants it. i like a little more than half of the cd. is it genius, music-saving material? no, certainly not. but it gets me up and moving and at the end of the day that is what pop music is made for. I just seem to think that Justin is cut more slack because he is male, though i havent heard the album fully my reason for not liking Justin is more of his attitude, like i said before, i want to form the opinion of what i think an artist is doing, i dont want the artist telling me what he's doing, if you have to tell your audience what you are doing and who you are then you arent really doing anything. Which is why i hate when artists talk about their cds and say "this cd is about me, and what i went through, my divorce, my marriage,etc...". I dont want to know what you are singing about, let me be the judge, have a little humility, "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: For the last month or so, many have praised his new album as the best Pop album, a great artistic growth and things like that. But seriously what is he doing here that Britney Spears didnt do on "In the Zone", which i dont think anyone really praised for her experimenting, working with new people like Moby and others. But Justin does this album and gets the "Second Coming" praise, i mean really, lets not get crazy, the only thing hes got over Britney is the voice and Ego.
In other words, sexism is alive and well in the music industry. I mean, both artists have beatbite Prince (remember Slave 4 U?). | |
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lastdecember said: sallysassalot said: the difference between the justin cd and britney's in the zone, i think, is that britney made the wise choice of letting other people shape the sound whereas justin had a vision in mind and worked with people who could execute the vision. its just a hunch, obviously, as i don't know either pop star personally. it just seems like justin's previous small club live shows have alluded to this sort of development.
i think justin is doing what madonna has done her entire career. he may not have the skills to go it alone but he at least knows what's what when it comes to getting the job done the way he wants it. i like a little more than half of the cd. is it genius, music-saving material? no, certainly not. but it gets me up and moving and at the end of the day that is what pop music is made for. I just seem to think that Justin is cut more slack because he is male, though i havent heard the album fully my reason for not liking Justin is more of his attitude, like i said before, i want to form the opinion of what i think an artist is doing, i dont want the artist telling me what he's doing, if you have to tell your audience what you are doing and who you are then you arent really doing anything. Which is why i hate when artists talk about their cds and say "this cd is about me, and what i went through, my divorce, my marriage,etc...". I dont want to know what you are singing about, let me be the judge, have a little humility, But mostly every artists does the "This album was inspired by...' thing... I can understand picking on Timberlake because of all the hype he's gotten (and even that shit aint the boy's fault..)...But to say this is a reason why you dislike Timberlake is a little overboard... Also, folks...People who are comparing Timberlake's album to Britney's album are missing the whole point of the importance of production...Timbaland makes all the difference...He's the reason why a lot of folks can even muster up the courage to say that they can even tolerate his album...It aint a bad album... | |
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murph said: lastdecember said: I just seem to think that Justin is cut more slack because he is male, though i havent heard the album fully my reason for not liking Justin is more of his attitude, like i said before, i want to form the opinion of what i think an artist is doing, i dont want the artist telling me what he's doing, if you have to tell your audience what you are doing and who you are then you arent really doing anything. Which is why i hate when artists talk about their cds and say "this cd is about me, and what i went through, my divorce, my marriage,etc...". I dont want to know what you are singing about, let me be the judge, have a little humility, But mostly every artists does the "This album was inspired by...' thing... I can understand picking on Timberlake because of all the hype he's gotten (and even that shit aint the boy's fault..)...But to say this is a reason why you dislike Timberlake is a little overboard... Also, folks...People who are comparing Timberlake's album to Britney's album are missing the whole point of the importance of production...Timbaland makes all the difference...He's the reason why a lot of folks can even muster up the courage to say that they can even tolerate his album...It aint a bad album... Sorry but i really have to disagree on all points. First Timabaland is not a Producer he's a beatmaker, a producer is someone that brings something out of an artist that wasnt there before and that someone else couldnt do. The fact is that timbaland could lay those beats down for any young male singer and people would be all over it. Which is the same thing with Britneys album, it was a change of pace but any other female could have done that record. As for Timberlake the only reason im picking on him is because he is the one opening his mouth, just like i used to hate when BONO said we are the greatest band or "we saved rock n roll" , also he is resposnible for the attention he gets mainly because he does the talking, that would be like when John Lennon was in the Beatles and he would make comments to say "oh people are just jumping on him", I mean timberlake has been in the game long enough, he knows how to stir up attention and sales, i mean he was in Nsync hanging on a string from a cieling. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: namepeace said: Justin has the look, the producer, the hype, the video budget, and some talent. In a world where wars can be fought on imaginary threats, Justin can be billed as music's savior.
he's way too reliant on producers to be a true artist. But he's good for what he does. True which is why i am saying, Britney's "in the Zone" was just as good, actually a better statement of growth, in a genre where growth is measured on what beat you sample. I mean she is just as good as him, she has the look, the moves, maybe not a voice, but there are quite a few pop icons that dont have good voices. Brit has a good voice when she isn't trying to sound like a little girl. Hopefully if she makes another record she'll git rid of the baby voice and hiccups. She acutlly sounds like a country singer when she isn't over produced You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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NDRU said: I think at best he could accomplish what Madonna did musically (definitely not culturally, though)
She had just enough talent & taste to choose the right producers & collaborators, and to be stylish and even seem innovative to some, without ever being a great musician. He's not smart enough to have the cultural impact has, she is in a league of her own when it comes to that kind of stuff. right now he's in the middle of his peak. let's see how long he can keep it up. the advantage he has is that he's male though, and doesn't target the gay audience as his base. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Can everyone please shut the fuck up about this mama's boy P.O.S. ? I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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lastdecember said: Timbaland is not a Producer he's a beatmaker, a producer is someone that brings something out of an artist that wasnt there before and that someone else couldnt do. The fact is that timbaland could lay those beats down for any young male singer and people would be all over it.
Someone had to say it 
People keep acting like Timbaland is some amazing producer,but I fail to see what's so great about what he does.Yes,he's able to program some cool beats,but he ain't Prince.Or Quincy Jones.Or Gamble and Huff.Or any of the truly talented producers who can actually create songs from scratch,as opposed to sampling and programming.Like most hip-hop producers (oops,I mean "programmers"),he's only concerned with beats.There's not much melody in his songs.Also,why does Timbaland have to put his vocals on every track that he produces? It gets irritating after awhile. . [Edited 10/24/06 3:09am] | |
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SoulAlive said: lastdecember said: Timbaland is not a Producer he's a beatmaker, a producer is someone that brings something out of an artist that wasnt there before and that someone else couldnt do. The fact is that timbaland could lay those beats down for any young male singer and people would be all over it.
Someone had to say it
People keep acting like Timbaland is some amazing producer,but I fail to see what's so great about what he does.Yes,he's able to program some cool beats,but he ain't Prince.Or Quincy Jones.Or Gamble and Huff.Or any of the truly talented producers who actually created songs from scratch,as opposed to sampling and programming.Also,does Timbaland have to put his vocals on every track that he produces? It gets irritating after awhile. Tim doesn't put his vocals on every track, but I realize you were just speaking hyperbolically. Like him or not, he's had enough influence and success (artistic and commercial) for people (like me) to consider him a great producer. This whole thread became silly when the thread starter admitted he hadn't listened to Justin's CD fully. [Edited 10/24/06 3:12am] "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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SoulAlive said: lastdecember said: Timbaland is not a Producer he's a beatmaker, a producer is someone that brings something out of an artist that wasnt there before and that someone else couldnt do. The fact is that timbaland could lay those beats down for any young male singer and people would be all over it.
Someone had to say it
People keep acting like Timbaland is some amazing producer,but I fail to see what's so great about what he does.Yes,he's able to program some cool beats,but he ain't Prince.Or Quincy Jones.Or Gamble and Huff.Or any of the truly talented producers who can actually create songs from scratch,as opposed to sampling and programming.Like most hip-hop producers (oops,I mean "programmers"),he's only concerned with beats.There's not much melody in his songs.Also,why does Timbaland have to put his vocals on every track that he produces? It gets irritating after awhile. . [Edited 10/24/06 3:09am] I hate to agree, but I do! I'm not sure how much goes on behind the scenes with these recent albums he's worked on, but I do kind feel like he's in a rut. Dropping the same sounds with the same beats on these pop tracks. Doesn't really draw out what's unique about the artist--rather, they're just icing on his crunchy beat cake...or something. | |
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AlexdeParis said: SoulAlive said: Someone had to say it
People keep acting like Timbaland is some amazing producer,but I fail to see what's so great about what he does.Yes,he's able to program some cool beats,but he ain't Prince.Or Quincy Jones.Or Gamble and Huff.Or any of the truly talented producers who actually created songs from scratch,as opposed to sampling and programming.Also,does Timbaland have to put his vocals on every track that he produces? It gets irritating after awhile. Tim doesn't put his vocals on every track, but I realize you were just speaking hyperbolically. Like him or not, he's had enough influence and success (artistic and commercial) for people (like me) to consider him a great producer.This whole thread became silly when the thread starter admitted he hadn't listened to Justin's CD fully. Years ago,Aaliyah appeared one of our local radio stations.The DJ played one of her singles,which I can't recall at the moment,but it was one of her songs that features Timbaland all over it,speaking some nonsense lines like he always does.The DJ on this particular station is known for being brutally honest,and he told her "We love your new single,but why does Timbaland have to talk all through it? We wanna hear YOU,not him!" | |
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DanceWme said: I only like the way he dances...thats it!
He's not a great dancer, they guy has no natural talent. | |
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Justin Timberlake's new album was seriously hyped up be his record label and the media, as a new creative dawn in music. Future Sex, Love Sounds has failed to have the impact of a classic album. I think the public are starting to see that Justin Timberlake is just "the man of the momment".
With his next album Justin Timberlake will be exposed as a man with just average talent as a singer and dancer, because he got lucky with the Justified. JT will never became a true music Icon. He's an Act not an Artist. The man has left NSYNC, but NSYNC will always be with the very choreograhped and produced Justin Timberlake. | |
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Justin COULD be a career artist, but he needs to start doing something of his own rather than basing his projects on artists that have already come before him like MJ and Prince. The sooner he does that, the sooner we get to know what JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE sounds like as opposed to JT covering MJ or Prince. I've heard he puts on a great show and the YouTube vids I've seen of him have been impressive. He puts on a better show than most of the new bands I've seen, that's for sure! | |
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Isolar said: DanceWme said: I only like the way he dances...thats it!
He's not a great dancer, they guy has no natural talent.  | |
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