guitarslinger44 said:

I don't think she's washed up but I think she seriously needs to go in a new direction.She's not evolving as an artist and I think people are getting tired of what she has to offer.It's boring.

wonder505 said:

mariah, justin, u2, beyonce, madonna...big names still sell and there's no reason, had she made a good record, that hers should be any different.

Jermaine knows Virgin told him to bounce.

i think the days are gone where an artist can just sit back and enjoy the riches their album brings. Mofo's got to really work it now.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Yeah, I guess Milli Vanilli messed it up for everybody.

Christopher said:

Ah... but that was wiggida-wiggida-wiggida WACK!

Christopher said:

Maybe he quit before they could fire him?

sallysassalot said:

did Madonna's last cd sell well?

I'm really asking. I didn't know it was a big seller.

I know she (Madonna) had some press and STILL had MTV behind her. You have remember. Janet doesn't have the love of MTV anymore and all of those artist do. Not to say MTV is the end all but for an artist like Janet, she needs it.

Rhondab said:

1.5million domestic 7million worldwide and a sellout World Tour. number 1 in 41 countries around the world at the same time.
[Edited 10/26/06 14:05pm]

Rhondab said:

Also, how did Beyonce's last CD do?

KingKrazy said:

Why does Janet Whisper now? From Control to Velvet Rope she had a voice and had attitude, strength, etc. why did she turn into a fluffy singer? I like the new cd, esp. track 5. I love that song, but I wish she would turn up the vocals and sing like she used to.

TommyRoss said:

ehuffnsd said:

that shit didn't hit no damn 7million worldwide, i hate how these artist always make up some crazy worldwide figures, if that song only did 1.5. mil in the US, there is no way it will do over 6 million worldwide

Dupri is pussy whupped he quits his job over his girlfriend, but what about the other acts who dont have the money or stardom Janet has to survive on there own that he signed and could have helped.

KingKrazy said:

several links to prove otherwise click:CONFESSIONS sales

KingKrazy said:

right because the US is the only market out there.

i mean Kylie is a dud and hasn't sold millions of albums simply because she doesn't move units here.

DiminutiveRocker said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyonce

KingKrazy said:

Ummm, yes it can. I've had husbands before where we've LIVED off of the song percentages from worldwide sales of a work that would sell a poo poo amount of units in the United States, but would pull off 2-3 million units worldwide..and we're not even talking about artists that make the top 20 anymore ...

The thing with Janet's album is that, while it does have a few classic Janet moments like 'Daybreak' and 'Enjoy', it's still inconsistant in that department.At this point, she can't be following the trends no more. She has to follow what her fans want and do what she does best(you would think that she would learn from MJ's Invincible experience).

Look at Madonna's last album. Sure, it may have not scored a major hit other than 'Hung Up'. But it still sold well, got her best reviews since 'Ray of Light' and even got MTV to back her up(at least for 'Hung Up' and 'Sorry'). And why? Because she knew that her fans wanted her to go back to her roots, which happened to be dance music. No matter which way you put it, Madonna has always been a dance artist. Most importantly, she was able to do this and STILL sound modern.

Same with U2 and Bon Jovi...they know what there fans want, and they know that they just can't go and copy whatever is 'in'. Which is why both groups have gone on for 20+ years and still sell alot of records. Maybe not blockbuster sales, but still decent enough.

I think 20 Y.O. is a step in the right direction, and I really hope it's luck changes. It's just not the type of album that's going to fully rebound her musically.

panther514 said:

not true the velvet rope opened with less 250,000 and was actually doing worse than 20. Y. O at this point and that was because she released I guess the wrong first single, ( even thou I adore got it's gone) I guess a lot of people didn't but the Cd really took off after I get lonely and together again . maybe the same thing can happened to 20. Y.O.
[Edited 10/26/06 22:42pm]

shortstuff45220 said:

the Velvet Rope is my favourite album. and i like Got Til It's Gone..but like Call On Me, i don't believe it was the best choice to lead off the album. and i hope you're right about 20 Y.O., however we're we're almost going on a 3rd single...if they release one.

KingKrazy said:

Bullshit.Contrary to what you may think,there is a world outside of the United States.Madonna's 'Confessions' CD sold around 1,555,357 copies in the US,but the total worldwide sales are around 8 million copies.It reached Number One in 41 different countries and in some of these places,it is still selling.She has a huge,loyal fanbase all over the globe.

shortstuff45220 said:

Before the whole Britney/N'Sync/Backstreet Boys megaselling teen-pop invasion of 1999, first week sales weren't focused on all that much.

KingKrazy said:

http://www.mediatraffic.d...albums.htm

It most certainly sold over 7 million. Madonna has a huge international fanbase.

jayaredee said:

....especially in Europe, a nation still open minded enough to have an interest in electronic dance music & dance-pop.

SoulAlive said:

Janet doesn't have anything left. She's relying on shock value and sex to sell her, which is okay if you're 20 something, but by the time you're as old as she is, you're supposed to have established yourself enough to not have to do that. I think Janet's sexy, but quite honestly, she has to compete with people like Beyonce and Christina auguilera, performers who are younger, hotter, and both have better voices than Janet does. Janet could have spent her formative years trying to develop something she could carry into her later years, but she didn't and now she can't sell records. What you said about her needing to go in a new direction was totally right on, but I think she's kinda stuck where she is, and too old to keep doing it that way unfortunately.

Rhondab said:

The 1st Madonna video was succesfull on TRL. But people r
exaggerating the whole MTV thing. MTV doesn't play videos anymore.

& Janet has the advantage of making R&B music, the most commercial
& airplay friendly music in the US. 'Call on Me' had massive airplay compared
2 for instance 'Hung Up'...people just arent fussed about the new Janet.



KWAME disses Jermaine Dupri on Hot 97:

"The stuff we did for the record is more creative than everything on that entire CD. This joint she recorded with Dr. Dre makes "Ring The Alarm" sound like a lullaby. That's what happens when your man thinks he can do it on his own. I got mad love for Janet, but JD didn't deliver."

On why JD left Virgin:

"He didn't deliver the goods. Promotion or whatever they wanna say ain't it. That album isn't good. I can say that cause the finished project we had before Jermaine took everything over is crazy. Ask Jimmy & Terry how they felt when Jermaine came in and changed almost everything. That's how I'm gonna end this. Ask Jimmy & Terry. "

KingKrazy said:

dude u should check Robbie Williams' record sales..his albums arent
even released in the US.

Martinelli said:

and there it is.

on another note, the biggest problem with janet's record is the failure to recognize and deal with the fact that most young people just don't care. i go to school with a lot of people in their early 20s. after class today i went to virgin with a younger friend i met at school (i think she's 22). i picked up the deluxe edition of 20 Y.O. to see what was on it and she laughed. her words were, "no you didn't." janet is just not "cool" to people who didn't really grow up with her.

go back to the drawing board and make a record for the people who still care.