DevotedPuppy said: I haven't been following all this drama until the last few days, but I admit when I first heard about it the thought that she was biting off of Angelina did cross my mind. So Madonna has been spending time in Africa, making a documentary, doing charity work? Interesting that I've never heard anything about that ever. I'm not a huge fan of Angelina, but I knew she had been in Cambodia several years ago (yes, I know Cambodia is not in Africa) and was a UNICEF(?) ambassador. I usually know when Madonna is on tour or she has an album out, and Africa/the AIDS crisis is a cause that I'm very concerned with so I'm surprised I never heard anything about Madonna in Africa. Plus it seems kinda odd that the press never once talked about Madonna's African charity work condsidering they seem to follow her every move.And honestly, I would have thought Madonna would go for a South America baby/orphan considering her interest that culture. I don't mean anything bad by that last comment, so please don't interpret it as racist. I'm just thinking back to Bedtime Stories and Lolo's dad, Evita, etc. She always seems more into Latin/Hispanic culture than African culture imo. And if people are respond by saying she probably didn't care about the baby's race/ethnicity then why didn't she adopt a British or American baby? I'm sure there are plenty of babies in those countries that need good homes too.
Madonna has been donating her time,effort and money to various charities for many,many,many years.Remember,she performed at the original Live Aid concert in 1985,which raised millions for the starving people in Africa.Likewise,she also performed at the Live 8 concert from two years ago.I also recall her performing on a recent Hurricane Katrina benefit TV special (she sang John Lennon's "Imagine") which raised alot of money for the victims.In addition,she has donated millions to various HIV/AIDS charities throughout the years,although this doesn't always get reported by the press.She isn't jumping on some "charity bandwagon",she's been doing this ever since she became a millionaire. "She always seems more into Latin/Hispanic culture than African culture,imo" Actually,Madonna has always been into African American culture and musical styles.She loves people of all races.Several of her boyfriends were Black.I'm not the least bit surprised that she would adopt an African baby. "Why didn't she adopt a British or American baby?" Why does everyone have to keep asking this question....saying that she should have adopted a baby from America? Really,why does it matter?? The only thing that matters is that she is saving a child's life.And besides,she may decide to adopt more kids in the future.Must she adopt a child from every poor country in the world...would that please all the folks who are now talking mess? | |
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At about 8am this morning, I did see an update on the story. Aparently CNN AFRICA sent foreign correspondent Jeff Koinange in search of David's father for an interview, only to find that the man fled from his village from the media scrutiny. Jeff, an African anchor who does amazing reporting and documentaries relating to all issues African (he's a hardcore field/conflict corresponedent like Anderson Cooper and Christiane Amanpour) managed to communicate with villagers and get some clue's to Banda's whereabouts and tracked him ten miles away to his sister's hut in the middle of a rotting field. He then admitted to koinange that he fled his home because of the media pressure and that the activist groups as well as the press were twisting his words, and trying to encourage him to take advantage of the fact that his son had been adopted by a famous western star. He stated that he wanted no money and wanted his son to have a home where he could be happy healthy and educated with people who would love him and do their best for him. He also stated he was fearful that that all the media problems would cause the Ritchies to change their minds and that David would be sent back. At this point he turned to the camera to give Madonna an eye to eye statement, to the effect of, 'I gave you my blessing to help my son. I don't know why this is happening to you, maybe it is because they say you are famous...but David will be a good son to you. You must be strong and not give up" ...and I wish I could find the tape of this online, but none so far...but that brother was as serious as a heart attack. I was completely awestruck. I think it might be time for the public to leave that baby alone and let him have his chance for a better life. [Edited 10/27/06 12:16pm] | |
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Download: The Oprah Winfrey Show Posted: 26 October 2006 - Fans can download Madonna's full appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show that aired in the US yesterday. Madonna talks emotionally to Oprah about the adoption of David and why she chose him, and her thoughts on the media outcry surrounding it all. Click on the link - type in the code - wait 45 seconds - then download the file The Oprah Winfrey Show - Broadcast 25 October 2006 (WMV) 21:44sec - 54.6Mb US TV: More appearances for Madonna Posted: 26 October 2006 - Madonna has three upcoming US TV appearances due next week, she will appear on NBC's The Today Show and Dateline and is also due to be interviewed on Live With Regis and Kelly on Wednesday 01 November. Interestingly the NBC The Today Show is listed as a Live In Studio appearance - this was probably previously arranged as part of her childrens book launch schedule and before the adoption of baby David - so we are unsure at the moment as to whether Madonna will be travelling to the US or not for these appearances. Jump moves up Billboard Posted: 26 October 2006 - Jump continues to ascend on the Billboard Dance Charts (04 November 2006). Billboard Hot Dance/Club play Jump is up to #3 Billboard Hot Dance Airplay Jump is up to #2 Jump makes #1 on MuchMoreMusic Posted: 26 October 2006 - Fans have voted Madonna's Jump to #1 on the MuchMoreMusic chart in Canada! Keep Madonna at the top by voting at www.muchmoremusic.com/top10 get ready to JUMP!!! | |
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CHIC0 said: ...get ready to JUMP!!!
Man, that vid is ultralame... | |
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Cheek said: CHIC0 said: ...get ready to JUMP!!!
Man, that vid is ultralame... you know you love it! i bet you almost busted your arse trying to do some of the moves from it too. | |
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CHIC0 said: you know you love it!
i bet you almost busted your arse trying to do some of the moves from it too. That wig makes me vomit. | |
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SoulAlive said: Madonna has been donating her time,effort and money to various charities for many,many,many years.Remember,she performed at the original Live Aid concert in 1985,which raised millions for the starving people in Africa.Likewise,she also performed at the Live 8 concert from two years ago.I also recall her performing on a recent Hurricane Katrina benefit TV special (she sang John Lennon's "Imagine") which raised alot of money for the victims.In addition,she has donated millions to various HIV/AIDS charities throughout the years,although this doesn't always get reported by the press.She isn't jumping on some "charity bandwagon",she's been doing this ever since she became a millionaire. I never said she just jumped on the charity bandwagon--I just thought that her interest in Africa/AIDS crisis in Africa was fairly recent. I stand somewhat corrected...(See my previous response to ehuffnsd.) Also, two Live Aid/8 concerts don't make her seem more interested in Africa than the average celeb, imo. Charity in general, sure. Actually,Madonna has always been into African American culture and musical styles.She loves people of all races.Several of her boyfriends were Black.I'm not the least bit surprised that she would adopt an African baby.
You're right--I forgot about the black Jesus video "scandal", Dennis Rodman and Lenny. My bad. (I have several of her albums, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" so I forget the details.) Why does everyone have to keep asking this question....saying that she should have adopted a baby from America? Really,why does it matter?? The only thing that matters is that she is saving a child's life.And besides,she may decide to adopt more kids in the future.Must she adopt a child from every poor country in the world...would that please all the folks who are now talking mess?
No at the end of the day it doesn't matter what country the baby is from, but this mess may have been avoided if she would have gone to an American or British adoption agency where the biological parents would be likely to clearly understand the ramifications of signing adoption papers, the adoption system is well established, etc. If it really boils down only to 'saving a child's life' then why not adopt one from UK or US? (They don't just have caucasion babies for adoption in those countries, if she wanted to adopt and diversify her family...) | |
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DevotedPuppy said: If it really boils down only to 'saving a child's life' then why not adopt one from UK or US? (They don't just have caucasion babies for adoption in those countries, if she wanted to adopt and diversify her family...)
The reason she went to Africa as she explained on Oprah was not because she specifically wanted a black child, race doesn't matter to her and her family, but because of the extreme poverty, disease and suffering in Africa, she wanted to do something to help an African child specifically. Yes, there are children for adoption in the US, but the level of poverty, short life expectancy, and likliehood of diseases like AIDS, marlaria and tb isn't as high. I don't understand why people say she should have adopted a child from the US or UK. It's like people are saying their own country is better than the rest of the world, and we shouldn't be bothered with how people in the rest of the world are suffering. It seems sort of xenopobic in a way. Today, the world is a global community where borders mean less and less. | |
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SoulAlive said: CHIC0 said: beautiful pic! I wonder why there isn't one picture like this one of MJ and his children | |
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jn2 said: SoulAlive said: beautiful pic! I wonder why there isn't one picture like this one of MJ and his children good question MADONNA & Michael Jackson will be on the show EXTRA next thursday. (but not together) | |
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Glindathegood said: The reason she went to Africa as she explained on Oprah was not because she specifically wanted a black child, race doesn't matter to her and her family, but because of the extreme poverty, disease and suffering in Africa, she wanted to do something to help an African child specifically. Yes, there are children for adoption in the US, but the level of poverty, short life expectancy, and likliehood of diseases like AIDS, marlaria and tb isn't as high. I don't understand why people say she should have adopted a child from the US or UK. It's like people are saying their own country is better than the rest of the world, and we shouldn't be bothered with how people in the rest of the world are suffering. It seems sort of xenopobic in a way. Today, the world is a global community where borders mean less and less. Thanks for the info--I didn't watch the Oprah interview so I didn't hear her explanations. I never said she should adopt a child from the US or UK I just asked why she didn't, which is different. Not that I need to justify anything, but I personally think the AIDS/poverty/etc crisis in Africa is far more concerning than many (US) domestic problems because it has worldwide ramifications/implications...so please don't include me in your idea of 'xenophobes' who think they shouldn't be bothered with the rest of the world's problems. | |
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Rhondab said: SoulAlive said: "the illiterate farmer now says he was never told that the adoption papers he signed meant that he would be giving up his son for life.He said he signed the documents believing "when David grows up,he will return back home to his village"
when David is grown,he probably might return back home,but I don't know why the father is thinking that far ahead.His comments are conflicting and make no sense. its not odd for some to "send" their children off for a better education and life and believe the child will come back to help the family later. I actually know an african woman whose family did that very thing. Sent her here for an education and she returns every so often to help her family. I'm not saying Madonna had anything to do with this adoption going badly but no telling what they may have told this man and his family. It nice to know someone understands the African culture. | |
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jn2 said: SoulAlive said: beautiful pic! I wonder why there isn't one picture like this one of MJ and his children Uh, why should there be? And how do you know there's not? And how is that a good question? [Edited 10/28/06 18:01pm] | |
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The Today Show Dateline Regis and Kelly Here comes Madonna!!! Madonna left London to come stateside for the promo tour of The English Roses 2 and Wednesday, Nov. 1, 10 p.m. At 48, Madonna is still making music, headlines, and controversy. In an upcoming interview to air on NBC, hear about her recent adoption, the crucifix and much more when one of the world’s favorite pop icons sits down with NBC News’ Meredith Vieira for a primetime exclusive. [Edited 10/29/06 18:32pm] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Madonna & Children the baby looks just like her and you know that child's wardrobe is worth a year of some of our salaries. | |
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ehuffnsd said: The Today Show Dateline Regis and Kelly Here comes Madonna!!! Madonna left London to come stateside for the promo tour of The English Roses 2 and Wednesday, Nov. 1, 10 p.m. At 48, Madonna is still making music, headlines, and controversy. In an upcoming interview to air on NBC, hear about her recent adoption, the crucifix and much more when one of the world’s favorite pop icons sits down with NBC News’ Meredith Vieira for a primetime exclusive. [Edited 10/29/06 18:32pm] Oh get her , in that pic her face says fuck you media scum i got my baby David!..no really he is very cute and i think she did it for genuine reasons, as she is unable to have anymore children and she did take him out of a life of poverty. | |
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BlueOrchid said: ehuffnsd said: The Today Show Dateline Regis and Kelly Here comes Madonna!!! Madonna left London to come stateside for the promo tour of The English Roses 2 and Wednesday, Nov. 1, 10 p.m. At 48, Madonna is still making music, headlines, and controversy. In an upcoming interview to air on NBC, hear about her recent adoption, the crucifix and much more when one of the world’s favorite pop icons sits down with NBC News’ Meredith Vieira for a primetime exclusive. [Edited 10/29/06 18:32pm] Oh get her , in that pic her face says fuck you media scum i got my baby David!..no really he is very cute and i think she did it for genuine reasons, as she is unable to have anymore children and she did take him out of a life of poverty. At what age women can't have children? | |
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Krytonite said: BlueOrchid said: Oh get her , in that pic her face says fuck you media scum i got my baby David!..no really he is very cute and i think she did it for genuine reasons, as she is unable to have anymore children and she did take him out of a life of poverty. At what age women can't have children? it's differnt for most women but starting around 44 45 the early stages of menopause start. and at 48 it is probably nearly unlikely for it happen You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Krytonite said: At what age women can't have children? it's differnt for most women but starting around 44 45 the early stages of menopause start. and at 48 it is probably nearly unlikely for it happen she also had a very complicated pregnancy with Rocco that forced her to be bed-ridden, so... she probably doesn't want to go through that again. "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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Krytonite said: At what age women can't have children?
She's said that she's been trying to conveive for 2 years bu can't. According to her, her exercise regimes have messed up her insides and made it near impossible to conceive, her age probably magnifies this problem. | |
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I read this on another forum, and it cracked me up...
I heard Oprah was jealous that Madonna thought of adopting an African baby first. She so wanted to tape a show and tell her audience: "Look under your seat, becuase everyone's going home with an A-F-R-I-C-A-N B-A-B-Y!!!!! | |
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Tom said: I read this on another forum, and it cracked me up...
I heard Oprah was jealous that Madonna thought of adopting an African baby first. She so wanted to tape a show and tell her audience: "Look under your seat, becuase everyone's going home with an A-F-R-I-C-A-N B-A-B-Y!!!!! !!!!! | |
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