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Reply #60 posted 10/25/06 11:56pm

SoulAlive

lazycrockett said:

ehuffnsd said:

Madonna and Guy now have David with them at their home in London, along with their two other children, Lourdes and Rocco. Madonna said the children are in complete love with their new baby brother.

"They just embraced him, and that's the amazing thing about children," she says. "They don't ask questions. They've never once said, 'What is he doing here', or mentioned the difference in his skin color, or questioned his presence in our life. That is an amazing lesson that children do teach us."



Well The kids are probably use to a lot of strangers coming and going.

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stop it! lol
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Reply #61 posted 10/26/06 12:50am

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Reply #62 posted 10/26/06 12:54am

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Is Marvin like that butthead alien from star trek?
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Reply #63 posted 10/26/06 12:57am

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beautiful pic! nod
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Reply #64 posted 10/26/06 1:22am

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from: Madonnalicious.com

Download: UK TV Oprah Interview Reports
Posted: 25 October 2006
Madonna's interview and her views on the adoption of David on The Oprah Winfrey Show made both main UK news reports tonight - fans can now download clips from the BBC and ITV news which feature clips from the Oprah interview.


Click on the link MADONNA- type in the code - wait 45 seconds - then download the file
BBC News - The Oprah Interview - Broadcast 25 October 2006 (WMV) 2:02sec - 10.4Mb


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Reply #65 posted 10/26/06 1:28am

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Madonna on The Oprah Winfrey Show
Posted: 25 October 2006
Oprah's official website www.oprah.com has published some pictures from Madonna's interview on today's show and an article on the interview.

To read the article and view more pictures visit www2.oprah.com/tows




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Reply #66 posted 10/26/06 1:43am

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Because Oprah understands her power. When she says, this is MY favorite this or that, people respond. She has credibility as far as some are concerned.

I tend not to watch Oprah but I do have respect for her. She completely understands her position and uses her influence. I'm sure Madonna's folks where like, "We need to do Oprah!"

I'm actually liking Tyra's show ALOT. eek She actually has some interesting topics. shrug

i think if you use your power to constantly talk about yourself, if you always find a way to throw yourself into the mix, its more of an abuse of power than a use of it. her ego is ridiculous. you know, bono has a hell of a lot of credibility and influence but i never, ever feel like he's tooting his own horn or bragging when he talks about things. he's very politically and socially engaged but he retains a level of humility when talking about issues. oprah could take a lesson.


And yet Bono has USED Oprah as a stage to get his message out there. shrug She serves a purpose. And still is different. Bono isn't a brand so to speak. There is something about Oprah's opinion that people value, so this is why she says "my". She knows that its going to mean something and point attention to an issue or product.

I would agree that Oprah needs to learn some humility BUT I'm not going to dog her about having Madonna on or Obama.
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Reply #67 posted 10/26/06 1:47am

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Madonna on The Oprah Winfrey Show
Posted: 25 October 2006
Oprah's official website www.oprah.com has published some pictures from Madonna's interview on today's show and an article on the interview.

To read the article and view more pictures visit www2.oprah.com/tows







get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #68 posted 10/26/06 1:48am

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Oh, locally they had a woman on the news talking about African/American trans-adoption. She has an agency here in Indy. She said that its a cultural issue. She stated that in many countries in Africa, parents will put their children in an orphange until they can get their finances together. Its their version of foster care. She said that most will not mind if another family cares for the child BUT they don't consider the child adopted. She advised Madonna to take the child back and apologize.


I thought it was an interesting viewpoint.


I saw a part of the interview with Madonna and she is troubled by all of this. I was really moved just listening to her and just watching her face and listening to the quiver in her voice at times. I do think she was geniune.
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Reply #69 posted 10/26/06 1:48am

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Rhondab said:

sallysassalot said:


i think if you use your power to constantly talk about yourself, if you always find a way to throw yourself into the mix, its more of an abuse of power than a use of it. her ego is ridiculous. you know, bono has a hell of a lot of credibility and influence but i never, ever feel like he's tooting his own horn or bragging when he talks about things. he's very politically and socially engaged but he retains a level of humility when talking about issues. oprah could take a lesson.


And yet Bono has USED Oprah as a stage to get his message out there. shrug She serves a purpose. And still is different. Bono isn't a brand so to speak. There is something about Oprah's opinion that people value, so this is why she says "my". She knows that its going to mean something and point attention to an issue or product.

I would agree that Oprah needs to learn some humility BUT I'm not going to dog her about having Madonna on or Obama.



and technically, Obama IS "her" Senator. He's from Illinois, he represents her as he does all other Illinoisians. shrug
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Reply #70 posted 10/26/06 1:49am

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lazycrockett said:

CHIC0 said:

Madonna on The Oprah Winfrey Show
Posted: 25 October 2006
Oprah's official website www.oprah.com has published some pictures from Madonna's interview on today's show and an article on the interview.

To read the article and view more pictures visit www2.oprah.com/tows







get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie


lazycrockett, you must one of those bitter gays that bitch on everything!
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Reply #71 posted 10/26/06 1:50am

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Tessa said:

Rhondab said:



And yet Bono has USED Oprah as a stage to get his message out there. shrug She serves a purpose. And still is different. Bono isn't a brand so to speak. There is something about Oprah's opinion that people value, so this is why she says "my". She knows that its going to mean something and point attention to an issue or product.

I would agree that Oprah needs to learn some humility BUT I'm not going to dog her about having Madonna on or Obama.



and technically, Obama IS "her" Senator. He's from Illinois, he represents her as he does all other Illinoisians. shrug


lol true but even I think Oprah meant "MY" in a different since.



David is a beautiful little baby boy.
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Reply #72 posted 10/26/06 4:34am

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Rhondab said:

I saw a part of the interview with Madonna and she is troubled by all of this. I was really moved just listening to her and just watching her face and listening to the quiver in her voice at times. I do think she was geniune.


I thought she was going to start crying at some point. She did seem kind of nervous. I definitely don't think she's doing this for a publicity stunt. She can basically go anywhere and do anything and create publicity for herself. She's not hurting for it.
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Reply #73 posted 10/26/06 6:01am

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I think this last confusion has attracted tons of people who hate Madonna's guts (which she mainly asked for) to use this drama as a stage to lay all their hatred on, which is pathetic.

I, for one, cannot stand Madonna as a person whatsoever, but i wouldn't use this issue as an outlet for my dislike for her.

It is a humanitarian issue we're dealing with here, YES she could've chosen this as a way to prove to the public she's changed as a person BUT whether we like that or not we NEED to realise this is all involving a poor little baby who's got no hand at all in all this drama, and whose only crime is that he's being adopted by Madonna whom we don't all like.

How about looking at the upside of this situation and realise how this little boy has been given an amazing chance of good life, an education and a future that will help him stand on steady ground and therefore pass the good on and help his own family and people back in Africa?
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Reply #74 posted 10/26/06 6:23am

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David's going to have an incredible life.He's got a wonderful new brother and sister...a supportive father...and a mother who loves him dearly.I'm not worried about him at all.
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Reply #75 posted 10/26/06 9:44am

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Rhondab said:

sallysassalot said:


i think if you use your power to constantly talk about yourself, if you always find a way to throw yourself into the mix, its more of an abuse of power than a use of it. her ego is ridiculous. you know, bono has a hell of a lot of credibility and influence but i never, ever feel like he's tooting his own horn or bragging when he talks about things. he's very politically and socially engaged but he retains a level of humility when talking about issues. oprah could take a lesson.


And yet Bono has USED Oprah as a stage to get his message out there. shrug She serves a purpose. And still is different. Bono isn't a brand so to speak. There is something about Oprah's opinion that people value, so this is why she says "my". She knows that its going to mean something and point attention to an issue or product.

I would agree that Oprah needs to learn some humility BUT I'm not going to dog her about having Madonna on or Obama.

i want to be clear that i don't have a problem with her having any particular guests, that's her job so...whomever, ya know. i thought oprah handled the hurricane katrina topic very well, so i know she has it in her to bring a topic to the forefront of america without making it about herself. the problem is, she rarely does that.

i think you're being too generous. i honestly don't think she talks about herself because she knows silly housewives and people who can't read or think for themselves will follow her every word. i think she talks about herself because she's stuck on herself. its the same reasons she's on the cover of her magazine every month. its the same reason her guests are so often friends of hers...and let's not even mention her friend gail. rolleyes i know she must talk about that friend of hers all the time because i haven't watched oprah in years and even i know who gail is.

i realize people watch the oprah show FOR oprah. and oprah isn't about to let you miss out on that fact, either.
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Reply #76 posted 10/26/06 11:36am

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sallysassalot said:

Rhondab said:



And yet Bono has USED Oprah as a stage to get his message out there. shrug She serves a purpose. And still is different. Bono isn't a brand so to speak. There is something about Oprah's opinion that people value, so this is why she says "my". She knows that its going to mean something and point attention to an issue or product.

I would agree that Oprah needs to learn some humility BUT I'm not going to dog her about having Madonna on or Obama.

i want to be clear that i don't have a problem with her having any particular guests, that's her job so...whomever, ya know. i thought oprah handled the hurricane katrina topic very well, so i know she has it in her to bring a topic to the forefront of america without making it about herself. the problem is, she rarely does that.

i think you're being too generous. i honestly don't think she talks about herself because she knows silly housewives and people who can't read or think for themselves will follow her every word. i think she talks about herself because she's stuck on herself. its the same reasons she's on the cover of her magazine every month. its the same reason her guests are so often friends of hers...and let's not even mention her friend gail. rolleyes i know she must talk about that friend of hers all the time because i haven't watched oprah in years and even i know who gail is.

i realize people watch the oprah show FOR oprah. and oprah isn't about to let you miss out on that fact, either.
[Edited 10/26/06 9:45am]


While I can see some of your points, we'll have to agree to disagree. :0
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Reply #77 posted 10/26/06 5:43pm

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get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie



umm yeah ok. go with that. rolleyes

btw ..pick someone else biggrin have a nice day
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Reply #78 posted 10/26/06 5:57pm

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get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie


Yes, I'm sure Madonna goes 2 bed every night praying she can someday b as famous as Angelina Jolie.
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Reply #79 posted 10/26/06 6:02pm

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lazycrockett said:

get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie


Yes, I'm sure Madonna goes 2 bed every night praying she can someday b as famous as Angelina Jolie.



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Reply #80 posted 10/26/06 6:31pm

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get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie


I haven't been following all this drama until the last few days, but I admit when I first heard about it the thought that she was biting off of Angelina did cross my mind. So Madonna has been spending time in Africa, making a documentary, doing charity work? Interesting that I've never heard anything about that ever. I'm not a huge fan of Angelina, but I knew she had been in Cambodia several years ago (yes, I know Cambodia is not in Africa) and was a UNICEF(?) ambassador. I usually know when Madonna is on tour or she has an album out, and Africa/the AIDS crisis is a cause that I'm very concerned with so I'm surprised I never heard anything about Madonna in Africa. Plus it seems kinda odd that the press never once talked about Madonna's African charity work condsidering they seem to follow her every move.

And honestly, I would have thought Madonna would go for a South America baby/orphan considering her interest that culture. shrug

I don't mean anything bad by that last comment, so please don't interpret it as racist. I'm just thinking back to Bedtime Stories and Lolo's dad, Evita, etc. She always seems more into Latin/Hispanic culture than African culture imo. And if people are respond by saying she probably didn't care about the baby's race/ethnicity then why didn't she adopt a British or American baby? I'm sure there are plenty of babies in those countries that need good homes too.

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Reply #81 posted 10/26/06 6:40pm

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"on the next oprah winfrey show...MY favorite senator..." god, she's sickening with her ego.

Hey, now we know what she's gonna be giving to every audience member come Christmas time. Pocket-sized Obamas! woot!
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Reply #82 posted 10/26/06 7:00pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

lazycrockett said:

get real posting a pic of a child has nothing to do with the fact that madonna used her $$ to best Jolie


I haven't been following all this drama until the last few days, but I admit when I first heard about it the thought that she was biting off of Angelina did cross my mind. So Madonna has been spending time in Africa, making a documentary, doing charity work? Interesting that I've never heard anything about that ever. I'm not a huge fan of Angelina, but I knew she had been in Cambodia several years ago (yes, I know Cambodia is not in Africa) and was a UNICEF(?) ambassador. I usually know when Madonna is on tour or she has an album out, and Africa/the AIDS crisis is a cause that I'm very concerned with so I'm surprised I never heard anything about Madonna in Africa. Plus it seems kinda odd that the press never once talked about Madonna's African charity work condsidering they seem to follow her every move.

And honestly, I would have thought Madonna would go for a South America baby/orphan considering her interest that culture. shrug

I don't mean anything bad by that last comment, so please don't interpret it as racist. I'm just thinking back to Bedtime Stories and Lolo's dad, Evita, etc. She always seems more into Latin/Hispanic culture than African culture imo. And if people are respond by saying she probably didn't care about the baby's race/ethnicity then why didn't she adopt a British or American baby? I'm sure there are plenty of babies in those countries that need good homes too.

twocents



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[Edited 10/26/06 18:32pm]


just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Rasising Mawali was part of the Live To Performance on the Confessions Tour. Madonna has also donated major major major money to HIV/AIDS long before Angelina was ever known to the public.

She is also worked wtih Live Aid Live 8 and many other charities.
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Reply #83 posted 10/26/06 7:31pm

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just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Rasising Mawali was part of the Live To Performance on the Confessions Tour. Madonna has also donated major major major money to HIV/AIDS long before Angelina was ever known to the public.

She is also worked wtih Live Aid Live 8 and many other charities.


Thanks for the info. I know just cause I don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It makes complete sense that she has donated major $$$ to HIV/AIDS in relation to the gay community (which I'm guessing is what engendered her involvement); I just never pegged her as being interested in the AIDS crisis in Africa.

It's all good, the more people who get involved and try to help the better as far as I'm concerned.

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Reply #84 posted 10/26/06 9:45pm

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mushy


i like it, too.


and is it me, or does lourdes look JUST like her mama? its a little bit how isabella rosellini looks like a twin to her momma ingrid bergamn!
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Reply #85 posted 10/26/06 11:31pm

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CHIC0 said:



mushy


i like it, too.


and is it me, or does lourdes look JUST like her mama? its a little bit how isabella rosellini looks like a twin to her momma ingrid bergamn!



no doubt she's a spitting image of her mother. especially if you look at early Madonna pics!! and i love how her children have mixed ethnicities. biggrin heart
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Reply #86 posted 10/26/06 11:55pm

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CHIC0 said:

Ottensen said:



i like it, too.


and is it me, or does lourdes look JUST like her mama? its a little bit how isabella rosellini looks like a twin to her momma ingrid bergamn!



no doubt she's a spitting image of her mother. especially if you look at early Madonna pics!! and i love how her children have mixed ethnicities. biggrin heart



she looks like the b&w picture that's on the back of the Like A Prayer booklet.
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Reply #87 posted 10/26/06 11:57pm

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CHIC0 said:

Ottensen said:



i like it, too.


and is it me, or does lourdes look JUST like her mama? its a little bit how isabella rosellini looks like a twin to her momma ingrid bergamn!



no doubt she's a spitting image of her mother. especially if you look at early Madonna pics!! and i love how her children have mixed ethnicities. biggrin heart


i know, sort of like her own rainbow family; little blond rocco, lourdes in all of her lush cuban-ness, and now that sweet precious little david from malawi...its a gorgeous group of kids!
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Reply #88 posted 10/27/06 12:11am

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Ottensen said:

CHIC0 said:




no doubt she's a spitting image of her mother. especially if you look at early Madonna pics!! and i love how her children have mixed ethnicities. biggrin heart


i know, sort of like her own rainbow family; little blond rocco, lourdes in all of her lush cuban-ness, and now that sweet precious little david from malawi...its a gorgeous group of kids!



funny enough...i've always wanted to have a lot of children. of course if i could only afford them. and i've always said i want at least 2 of my own flesh and blood and then the other 18 would be adopted. unfortunately....i don't have the Ciccone income, nor do i know of a woman that would want to bare or even help raise that many kids lol
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Reply #89 posted 10/27/06 12:36am

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Ottensen said:

CHIC0 said:




i love how her children have mixed ethnicities. biggrin heart


i know, sort of like her own rainbow family; little blond rocco, lourdes in all of her lush cuban-ness, and now that sweet precious little david from malawi...its a gorgeous group of kids!



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