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Thread started 10/22/06 9:34am

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Father of 'Baby David' says he was misled when he gave up child to Madonna

at 12:04 on October 22, 2006, EST.

BLANTYRE, Malawi (AP) - The biological father of 13-month-old "Baby David" said Sunday that he was misled into agreeing to give up his son to American pop diva Madonna.

Yohane Banda said that authorities had not made it clear to him that he was giving up his only son "for good."

"Our understanding was that they (Madonna and her British filmmaker husband Guy Ritchie) would educate and take care of our son just as they were doing at the orphanage," said the 32-year-old illiterate peasant farmer in a telephone interview from Lipunga Village where he ekes out a living growing onions and tomatoes.

Banda signed adoption papers earlier this month, clearing the way for a judge to grant the celebrity couple a "temporary order" to take away the baby, who was flown to London last week.

Until now he has defended his move as in the best interests of his motherless son.


┬ęThe Canadian Press, 2006


Oh boy, I can see this situation getting real ugly eek
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Reply #1 posted 10/22/06 10:01am

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luv4u said:


Oh boy, I can see this situation getting real ugly eek


Yeah, both the situation and this thread.....

Posts to be expected in this thread:

"Madonna is a talentless attention seeking slag."
"Madonna steals children for her own commercial gain."
"Madonna is a whore"
"Madonna is ugly"
"Madonna should have broken her spinal cord when she fell of her horse."
"Madonna is an awful mother."
"Madonna lip synches lullabyes to her adopted son"

And many more of our favorites. lol
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Reply #2 posted 10/22/06 1:23pm

CinisterCee

Brutal.

Now it really does look like Madonna completed the final tearing-apart of that man's family. sad
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Reply #3 posted 10/22/06 1:32pm

jayaredee

CinisterCee said:

Brutal.

Now it really does look like Madonna completed the final tearing-apart of that man's family. sad


Yeah, and just days ago:


Posted: 18 October 2006 - From AP Via Yahoo! News
The biological father of Baby David - the 13-month-old boy adopted by Madonna - on Wednesday criticized human rights groups seeking to reverse the move and said his child should stay with the star.
The Human Rights Consultative Committee, a coalition of 67 organizations, launched a legal challenge Tuesday to the Malawian government decision to relax the usual ban on adoptions by foreigners and relax the requirement that prospective parents have to stay with the child for 18-24 months for assessment before the adoption is formalized.
'Where were these people when David was struggling in the orphanage? These so-called human rights groups should leave my baby alone,' Yohane Banda said.
'As father I have okayed this, I have no problem; the village has no problem, who are they to cause trouble? Please let them stop.'
Madonna and British film director husband Guy Ritchie Thursday spent eight days in Malawi and last Thursday signed adoption papers for Baby David. Banda, David's father, counter-signed the papers and High Court judge, Justice Andrew Nyirenda, issued the celebrity couple an 'interim order' okaying the couple to take the baby away 'with conditions.'
The boy was flown to London on Monday.
A government official said the laws being used by the civil rights groups to mount the challenge were 'archaic.'
Penston Kilembe, the Director of Child Welfare Services in the Ministry of Gender, child Welfare and Community Services, told The AP the laws the civil rights groups are using are 'archaic.'
'These laws date back to the 1940s; things have changed now,' he said. 'Madonna and her husband has broken no laws as far as government is concerned. They have followed all the legal steps.'
Kilembe said when approving the adoption of Baby David government looked at rights of the baby and the family and 'found nothing amiss.'
'These groups should fight for rights of children, not block the same like they are trying to do now,' he said.
The civil rights groups chairman, Justice Dzonzi, said they were not against the adoption, but wanted the laws followed. 'If Madonna really wants the child, she has to apply for residency permit in Malawi,' he said.
The star found David at the Home of Hope Orphanage, which looks after more than 500 children who have lost one or both parents.
Banda's wife, Marita, 28, died a week after giving birth to David. The couple, who had been married for over 10 years, had two other sons who died in infancy from malaria.
'I was alone with a baby; I had no money, I couldn't buy him milk, that's why I surrendered him to the orphanage,' said Banda.
'Orphanage life is no good. We leave kids there because we can't look after them properly ourselves. Now my son has been taken by a kindhearted woman, these people want to bring him back to the orphanage,' lamented Banda, standing in his small garden of onions and tomatoes.
The peasant farmer said Madonna and Ritchie promised him nothing apart from 'love and care for my David.'
Banda's village is typical of many in Malawi - no electricity or running water, and basic mud huts. Few inhabitants had even heard of Madonna before the controversy erupted.
'Whoever she is she is a kindhearted woman,' said Village Headman Lipunga, the chief of the village. 'We all love her here and we hope she will visit us soon.'
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Reply #4 posted 10/22/06 2:12pm

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All this just to promote a new childrens book?!

eek
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Reply #5 posted 10/22/06 2:16pm

MikeMatronik

lazycrockett said:

All this just to promote a new childrens book?!

eek


Nothing like a bit of drama to get a number 1! lol
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Reply #6 posted 10/22/06 2:27pm

CinisterCee

MikeMatronik said:

lazycrockett said:

All this just to promote a new childrens book?!

eek


Nothing like a bit of drama to get a number 1! lol

lol
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Reply #7 posted 10/22/06 3:03pm

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Weird stuff...
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Reply #8 posted 10/22/06 6:20pm

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jayaredee said:

CinisterCee said:

Brutal.

Now it really does look like Madonna completed the final tearing-apart of that man's family. sad


Yeah, and just days ago:


Posted: 18 October 2006 - From AP Via Yahoo! News
The biological father of Baby David - the 13-month-old boy adopted by Madonna - on Wednesday criticized human rights groups seeking to reverse the move and said his child should stay with the star.
The Human Rights Consultative Committee, a coalition of 67 organizations, launched a legal challenge Tuesday to the Malawian government decision to relax the usual ban on adoptions by foreigners and relax the requirement that prospective parents have to stay with the child for 18-24 months for assessment before the adoption is formalized.
'Where were these people when David was struggling in the orphanage? These so-called human rights groups should leave my baby alone,' Yohane Banda said.
'As father I have okayed this, I have no problem; the village has no problem, who are they to cause trouble? Please let them stop.'
Madonna and British film director husband Guy Ritchie Thursday spent eight days in Malawi and last Thursday signed adoption papers for Baby David. Banda, David's father, counter-signed the papers and High Court judge, Justice Andrew Nyirenda, issued the celebrity couple an 'interim order' okaying the couple to take the baby away 'with conditions.'
The boy was flown to London on Monday.
A government official said the laws being used by the civil rights groups to mount the challenge were 'archaic.'
Penston Kilembe, the Director of Child Welfare Services in the Ministry of Gender, child Welfare and Community Services, told The AP the laws the civil rights groups are using are 'archaic.'
'These laws date back to the 1940s; things have changed now,' he said. 'Madonna and her husband has broken no laws as far as government is concerned. They have followed all the legal steps.'
Kilembe said when approving the adoption of Baby David government looked at rights of the baby and the family and 'found nothing amiss.'
'These groups should fight for rights of children, not block the same like they are trying to do now,' he said.
The civil rights groups chairman, Justice Dzonzi, said they were not against the adoption, but wanted the laws followed. 'If Madonna really wants the child, she has to apply for residency permit in Malawi,' he said.
The star found David at the Home of Hope Orphanage, which looks after more than 500 children who have lost one or both parents.
Banda's wife, Marita, 28, died a week after giving birth to David. The couple, who had been married for over 10 years, had two other sons who died in infancy from malaria.
'I was alone with a baby; I had no money, I couldn't buy him milk, that's why I surrendered him to the orphanage,' said Banda.
'Orphanage life is no good. We leave kids there because we can't look after them properly ourselves. Now my son has been taken by a kindhearted woman, these people want to bring him back to the orphanage,' lamented Banda, standing in his small garden of onions and tomatoes.
The peasant farmer said Madonna and Ritchie promised him nothing apart from 'love and care for my David.'
Banda's village is typical of many in Malawi - no electricity or running water, and basic mud huts. Few inhabitants had even heard of Madonna before the controversy erupted.
'Whoever she is she is a kindhearted woman,' said Village Headman Lipunga, the chief of the village. 'We all love her here and we hope she will visit us soon.'

exactly, this whole thing is totally confusing.
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Reply #9 posted 10/22/06 10:24pm

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he wants money....his son's best interests are taken care of and now he must try to see to his own.
[Edited 10/22/06 22:25pm]
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Reply #10 posted 10/22/06 11:52pm

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Voidra said:

he wants money....his son's best interests are taken care of and now he must try to see to his own.
[Edited 10/22/06 22:25pm]


and you know this cause?
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Reply #11 posted 10/23/06 12:06am

SoulAlive

looks like Madonna will be on the Oprah Winfrey Show this Wednseday to talk about the adoption and all the controversy it has created:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...yFpo8FqcSY


hmmm
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Reply #12 posted 10/23/06 12:13am

SoulAlive

Voidra said:

he wants money....his son's best interests are taken care of and now he must try to see to his own.



I don't know if that's true,but Madonna could have saved herself alot of trouble by adopting a child with no parents.There's always a chance that the parent(s) could "change their mind" years later and decide that they want the child back.Or,given her massive wealth,they could demand alot of money in the coming years.You never know.
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Reply #13 posted 10/23/06 4:56am

MikeMatronik

lazycrockett said:

Voidra said:

he wants money....his son's best interests are taken care of and now he must try to see to his own.
[Edited 10/22/06 22:25pm]


and you know this cause?


For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!
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Reply #14 posted 10/23/06 5:34am

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MikeMatronik said:

lazycrockett said:



and you know this cause?


For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!




This is one of the most elitist pompous comments I have ever read here
Le prego di non toccare la macchina per favore!
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Reply #15 posted 10/23/06 5:50am

MikeMatronik

ThirdandFinal said:

MikeMatronik said:



For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!




This is one of the most elitist pompous comments I have ever read here


My mother's father put her on a orphanage and he could take care of her...

Welcome to the org!

But hey, madonna is a whore...she should have let the kid there, where he could have a "great life" in the orphanage!!!!
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Reply #16 posted 10/23/06 5:58am

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MikeMatronik said:

ThirdandFinal said:





This is one of the most elitist pompous comments I have ever read here


My mother's father put her on a orphanage and he could take care of her...

Welcome to the org!

But hey, madonna is a whore...she should have let the kid there, where he could have a "great life" in the orphanage!!!!
[Edited 10/23/06 5:53am]

For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!

That is the coment I am replying to, nothing to do with Madonna, nothing to do with your mother.

I have been on the org much longer than you and your comment is the most elitist I have ever seen here
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Reply #17 posted 10/23/06 6:05am

MikeMatronik

ThirdandFinal said:

MikeMatronik said:



My mother's father put her on a orphanage and he could take care of her...

Welcome to the org!

But hey, madonna is a whore...she should have let the kid there, where he could have a "great life" in the orphanage!!!!
[Edited 10/23/06 5:53am]

For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!

That is the coment I am replying to, nothing to do with Madonna, nothing to do with your mother.

I have been on the org much longer than you and your comment is the most elitist I have ever seen here


Actually I've been here under another username...

And believe me, there's nothing elitist about me. If you had my life...you would know how it is to suffer under the elitist ones!
[Edited 10/23/06 6:06am]
[Edited 10/23/06 6:10am]
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Reply #18 posted 10/23/06 8:09am

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Just give the kid back and forget about it Madonna. Is this fiasco ever gonna end?
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Reply #19 posted 10/23/06 12:16pm

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So now that the father has stated that he was mislead or ill informed, WILL Madonna
give him back?
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Reply #20 posted 10/23/06 1:42pm

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MikeMatronik said:

lazycrockett said:



and you know this cause?


For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!

the father lives in a mud hut and grows tomatoes in his "backyard" for a living how could he take care of the baby? he said he didn't have enough money to buy milk for the kid.I don't think he deserves to be called a motherfucker and an insect.
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Reply #21 posted 10/23/06 1:53pm

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Bev, I hope you are not becoming obsessed with this story. lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #22 posted 10/23/06 2:10pm

MikeMatronik

purpledusk971 said:

MikeMatronik said:



For god sake...the father put his son in a orfanage. He's a sick motherfucker!

A parent that does to a kid is worse than an insect!!!

the father lives in a mud hut and grows tomatoes in his "backyard" for a living how could he take care of the baby? he said he didn't have enough money to buy milk for the kid.I don't think he deserves to be called a motherfucker and an insect.


I don't like when parent abandon their children...It's something that makes me mad.

A good parent never leaves a child.

Sorry if my coment was a bit unfortunate, but the subject of parents i something that is painfull for me.

Note that my reaction is not based on the fact that I'm a Madonna fan
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Reply #23 posted 10/23/06 2:27pm

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MikeMatronik said:



A good parent never leaves a child.





That is a load of crap

Agood parent makes sure their child is taken care of properly
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Reply #24 posted 10/23/06 2:32pm

MikeMatronik

ThirdandFinal said:

MikeMatronik said:



A good parent never leaves a child.





That is a load of crap

Agood parent makes sure their child is taken care of properly


It's your opinion...I have my reasons.

Don't want to start a war with no one here!
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Reply #25 posted 10/23/06 5:10pm

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A senior Malawian government official on Monday dismissed as untrue remarks by an illiterate father who said he was misled into signing over his son for adoption by pop diva Madonna.
But his comments were categorically denied by Penson Kilembe, director of child welfare in the Ministry of Women and Child Development, who told Reuters the ministry explained every detail of the process to Banda and his family.

"We explained every detail and Madonna herself explained her intentions in the face of the judge and in Banda's presence," Kilembe said. "He (Banda) was asked several times in court if he understood what was going on and he said he did."


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Reply #26 posted 10/23/06 5:50pm

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runs to see what wikipedia has to say..... razz razz
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Reply #27 posted 10/23/06 11:09pm

MikeMatronik

lazycrockett said:

runs to see what wikipedia has to say..... razz razz

lol
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Can you imagine the scenario if the kid's returned to Malawi? Blantyre, 2018:

SCHOOLMATE: Did you know that Madonna tried to adopt you, but your father changed his mind?

DAVID: Madonna?

SCHOOLMATE: Yes, she's one of the richest and most famous women in the world!

At this point, David does a Wikipedia search, goes home, shoots his father, then gets on the blower to Liz Rosenberg:

DAVID: Liz! Wassup?! It's David - the kid Madonna tried to adopt in 2006? I'm available! smile
"Acceptance, forgiveness, and love."
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Reply #29 posted 10/24/06 9:59am

MikeMatronik

Ace said:

Can you imagine the scenario if the kid's returned to Malawi? Blantyre, 2018:

SCHOOLMATE: Did you know that Madonna tried to adopt you, but your father changed his mind?

DAVID: Madonna?

SCHOOLMATE: Yes, she's one of the richest and most famous women in the world!

At this point, David does a Wikipedia search, goes home, shoots his father, then gets on the blower to Liz Rosenberg:

DAVID: Liz! Wassup?! It's David - the kid Madonna tried to adopt in 2006? I'm available! smile



lol lol lol lol lol
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