CinisterCee said:

Marrk said:

Michael told him to BEAT IT!!

Sdldawn said:

What does her posing nude have to do with him allegedly beating her? Just trying to get the point and connection here. If he did beat her, is it justified because she posed nude? If so that point of view is very ignorant.

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

It's not like rock stars don't have a history of marrying Playmates, right?

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

I think his point is that Pau knew when he married her that those breasts belonged to all of us.

From this week's Popbitch:


>> War Games <<
Heather goes out on a limb

What could have made Heather Mills-McCartney
angry enough to have thrown such lurid
accusations at her husband this week? Well,
Macca's legal team had suggested to Heather
that they weren't sure she should be entitled
to anything from Sir Paul as she had
misrepresented herself at the time of the
wedding by not revealing she had, in effect,
been a prostitute.

And Heather does have a history of delusional
flights of fantasy. There's a journalist at
Private Eye also called Heather Mills who
discovered that Mills-McCartney had been going
around pretending to be her for a while.


Take that and party Harleopolice.
[Edited 10/20/06 9:39am]

mikek1 said:

Every genius is violent? Name one!

Shapeshifter said:

.....or porn stars/adult film actresses.

TheSkinMechanic said:

Ike Turner

Shapeshifter said:

plus, wasn't she going around saying for awhile that she invented frozen yogurt or something? i swear i heard her say this. a couple of times, in fact.

Tessa said:

for real? that's really funny if she did, that'd make her crazy!

mikek1 said:

Yeah, the plane incident is the only one I've heard about as well.

You could pretty much say though that every single Zep band member had sex with 14 year old girls though. They all did that while they were on tour I'd be willing to bet. Not sure I would call it rape though, as young groupies back then were the norm and there was even a group of "baby groupies" who were even younger than 14 who would camp out in hotel hallways waiting for the chance to be invited into rock stars' rooms. It wasn't a big deal back then, and times have obviously changed. Pretty crazy though now that I think about how young those girls all were at the time. When I was 14, it never even occurred to me to try to sleep with rock stars.

I never heard anything though about an actual rape by Bonham though, except for the plane incident, in which nothing actually happened because he was subdued before it could go any further.
[Edited 10/21/06 12:27pm]

Heather goes out on a limb

What could have made Heather Mills-McCartney
angry enough to have thrown such lurid
accusations at her husband this week? Well,
Macca's legal team had suggested to Heather
that they weren't sure she should be entitled
to anything from Sir Paul as she had
misrepresented herself at the time of the
wedding by not revealing she had, in effect,
been a prostitute.

And Heather does have a history of delusional
flights of fantasy. There's a journalist at
Private Eye also called Heather Mills who
discovered that Mills-McCartney had been going
around pretending to be her for a while.
-----

Thats freakin says it all.. crazy

Harlepolis said:

I agree. I don't know much about their marriage but Paul does seem mellow and people pick up on that, but I assume he can be a prick, too. I bet there is at least a little truth to all those accustions....I bet she wants some money, too.

TheSkinMechanic said:

JOHN LENNON
JIMI HENDRIX
MILES DAVIS

minneapolisgenius said:

That's not what he was tlking about. The underage sex thing was happening when zep were in their early twenties; infact rob plant was 19 when he got off the plane. Jimi page has been hapily married for some years now and even has an OBE from the Queen for charity work.

We're not talking about having sex with minors; apparantly the nme journalist said bonzo tried TO FORCE HIMSELF AND RAPE a young teenage fan.

Bonzo however did the same thing on a plane; the problem in accusing him is NOBODY knows if he would of actually done it. He was apparantly a different man when not drinking and with his famiy.

mikek1 said:

See you've, ur, modified your list a little there Mike. By the way, Charles Mingus was also a genius. Read Under The Underdog, his "autobiography", if you want proof. Or better still listen to the wonderful music he made. And yes, he was very violent.

And you forgot Brian Jones. Genius (musically, yes, could play an instrument he picked up), violent towards women (oooooh yes!).
[Edited 10/22/06 4:31am]

mikek1 said:

When drinking his band nickname was "The Beast".
[Edited 10/22/06 4:30am]

Shapeshifter said:

he said NAME ONE; i named three.

I orginally named PEOPLE CONSIDERED GENIUS. I do not think marvin gaye was that good.

Is james brown a genius? many would say so; i would say in terms of music he has no talent, he's just a performer with great musicians around him.

Shapeshifter said:

DON'T compare zep with gary glitter. Glitter had CHILD porn on his computer and RAPED two 11 year old girls.

p.s. i would love to read that nme issue; does it go into detial or just a brief quote.

BTW that nick kent was a DRUG ADDICT and has got his 'facts' wrong before. He said Rick james RAPED TWO women. Rick was done for sexual assault NOT RAPE!

mikek1 said:

James Brown has "NO TALENT"!!!!! See above.

Look, just because you don't like what they produce, doesn't mean Marvin and James weren't/aren't among the true musical greats. James Brown is to soul and funk what Duke Ellington was to jazz. But I guess you're going to tell me Duke was nothing but a guy in a nice suit next.
[Edited 10/22/06 4:41am]

Shapeshifter said:

Big pun was a lyrical GENIUS and is considered that by EVERY major rapper out!
Jay z is one of the greatest rappers ever and his debut album is a stone cold classic GENIUS album.
You said Axl rose isn't a genius MILLIONS of people would say different. Many think AFD is the best rock album ever.

OPINIONS; don't insult others because of theirs.
[Edited 10/22/06 4:46am]

Shapeshifter said:

James brown can't write, sing or play; his musicians are the real funk stars!!!!!

mikek1 said:

Ooooh semantics. He held a woman hostage, I believe and sexually assaulted her and burnt her with a crack pipe. Or was it his wife who did that. I dunno. Don't think the victim had a good time of it, do you?

You're starting to sound like the Clinton camp at the height of the Rwandan genocide? You know "define genoicide" and all that. Denial is king. Why don't you just accept that some of the guys you worship as geniuses ain't that nice when they jump off your pedestals at night? Or better still, why don't you go listen top Chris De Burgh - now there's a wholesome family entertainer ... oh shit! He fucked the family nanny!
[Edited 10/22/06 4:50am]

Shapeshifter said:

Worship?
All the guys i mentioned are SKUM!
I do not like any of the entertainers i listed; i do not even like Prince!

BTW; James Brown is a rapist then!!
[Edited 10/22/06 4:55am]

mikek1 said:

Yes, James Brown has had a history of surrounding himself with crack musicians who helped forge his visions for new musical idioms. So did Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Duke Ellington, Mingus, Coltrane, Monk, George Clinton, David Bowie, Sly Stone and that skinny little motherfucker with the high voice - to name but a few.

As for singing - he's not the best, but he sure can sing - you can hear that gospel influence ringing loud and clear in everything he's done. Check out the first two Live at the Apollo albums, check out Try Me.

And you do know that James Brown's polyrhythmic beats have gone on to be the backbone of everything drom funk to hip hop and even drum n bass, don't you?

Either virtually everyone else has got it very wrong and The Godfather of Soul has perpetuated a Da Vinci Code-like fraud on the world for the last 2000 years, or you are VERY ignorant indeed.

Shapeshifter said:

James brown's beats?
HE HAS NEVER CREATED A BEAT!

HE IS A RAPIST!

mikek1 said:[quote]

Shapeshifter said:

Worship?

You cut and pasted some Jay Z lyrics you obviously consider "urban poetry". Or is that "urbane poetry". Worship and adore.

All the guys i mentioned are SKUM!

Your impassioned defence of that screeching racist inbred homophobe Axl Rose didn't once mention the word "scum" anywhere in it.

I do not like any of the entertainers i listed;

May I refer you to your quote?

"you must be kidding!
Axl rose has wrote some of the greatest songs in the last two decades. He is a good piano player, producer and great song writer; GENIUS!
Bonham is the greatest druumer EVER; he may of been joking when he bent over the women, he apparantly said'i;m gonna take her from behind'. He bacame an alcoholic on the road and was supposed to be 100% different when with his family and sober.
R.kelly is a genius; listen to his catalogue. That's why EVERYONE wants to work with him from britney, ja rule, isley bro's MJ, tyrese, omarion, m houston, snoop dogg e.t.c
Slash is phenomenal on the guitar; he is a genius!
Moon was amazing and i have never heard anyone say different

Sounds like love to me. Or admiration. R Kelly - slurp - Slash - slurp - Racist Hick Axl - slurp - Bonzo - slurp - Keith Moon - slurp.

i do not even like Prince!

So, ur, what are you doing HERE then? Apart from getting your ass handed to you?


BTW; James Brown is a rapist then!!

Really. News to me. What's your source? He beat his late wife up (didn't kill her though, that was Jerry Lee Lewis). And he no dioubt had his way with half his backing singers and dancers, but no one has ever said he was a rapist. You're just being petulant and grabbing at thin air.

mikek1 said:

Tell me more ...

Shapeshifter said:

i said rick james was accused of sexual assault not rape and you said 'semantics'.

James brown has SETTLED ONE THAN A COUPLE of lawsuits for sexual assault out of court!!!!

You like Prince the person?
What artists do you like then?
[Edited 10/22/06 5:27am]