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Thread started 10/16/06 12:52pm

lastdecember

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JD trying to get Mariah to do Duet with Janet, NOW!

Saw this article posted here in the NY Daily News

--From New York Daily News: In a desperate move to breathe life into "20 Y.O.," a source says Dupri is courting Mariah Carey to have a duet with Jackson on a track that would be added to a new version of the disk — even though some estimate Virgin still hasn't moved about 200,000 of the first batch.
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The reason this bothers me, is mainly its to take advantage of your core fans, lets be real if they duet the only people that will buy it are the same people that bought the first version "YOUR LOYAL FANS". Im so sick to death of people holding back tracks so they can double their sales on a re-issue. Its just so frustrating that JD cannot deal with the fact that all artists have "their day" or their few years" where they are everything, its just the way the world goes, NO ONE stays on top forever, u cannot be the "shit" forever, and when you cannot accept that you look like a bigger fool.

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Reply #1 posted 10/16/06 1:05pm

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more importantly... a lesson for all the Jacksons you don't stay on top by doing the same thing over and over!
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Reply #2 posted 10/16/06 2:20pm

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ehuffnsd said:

more importantly... a lesson for all the Jacksons you don't stay on top by doing the same thing over and over!

I wish Janet would go back to doing the sort of music she made in the 80s and 90s, at least more like we`re used to hearing her. The last two albums are horrible confused

I remember when M.Js "You rock my world" came out, people were saying that he was stuck in the 80s, that he used the same formula, but personally, i didn`t see it that way, in fact, the whole album didn`t sound like anything he`s done before.
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Reply #3 posted 10/16/06 2:28pm

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Icicle said:

ehuffnsd said:

more importantly... a lesson for all the Jacksons you don't stay on top by doing the same thing over and over!

I wish Janet would go back to doing the sort of music she made in the 80s and 90s, at least more like we`re used to hearing her. The last two albums are horrible confused

I remember when M.Js "You rock my world" came out, people were saying that he was stuck in the 80s, that he used the same formula, but personally, i didn`t see it that way, in fact, the whole album didn`t sound like anything he`s done before.


I totally agree, the 80's is some sort of a taboo word in the industry, and yet everyone rips it off. I hate when i hear someone say "dated" or terms like that. I think if a formula works for you go with it, at least it pleases your fan base. I mean Bon Jovi has never really ventured out of their "formula" and when they have their fans have actually told them "what the fuck" (that would be the "This Left Sounds Right" cd, and they actually listened and did something else. Im not saying artists should conform to what people want, what i am saying is dont bitch about people not sticking with you when you totally alienate them and you try to sell to 12 year olds that listen to Ciara and Ne-Yo. Until Janet/JD accept their "age" only then can they move forward.

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Reply #4 posted 10/16/06 2:33pm

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I love Mariah and I love Janet. Separately. I so don't want this to happen. Do their voices even compliment each other? I guess it could be like the Making Love in the Rain arrangement. If it didn't happen before the album was officially released the first time, maybe it's not supposed to happen.
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Reply #5 posted 10/16/06 2:51pm

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Well now, that is what I call unfair - a genuinely gifted singer pitted against someone who increasingly sounds like she currently gets her vocal training from a software program. Elephant against a mosquito. Mariah by first note TKO. That dwarf really is an idiot. Can anyone tell me how the twerp even got a job outside the circus?
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Reply #6 posted 10/16/06 3:10pm

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lastdecember said:

Saw this article posted here in the NY Daily News

--From New York Daily News: In a desperate move to breathe life into "20 Y.O.," a source says Dupri is courting Mariah Carey to have a duet with Jackson on a track that would be added to a new version of the disk — even though some estimate Virgin still hasn't moved about 200,000 of the first batch.



I saw that this morning and I almost died laughing. Even Janet's core fans wouldn't go for this nonsense. Why buy a POS twice????
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Reply #7 posted 10/16/06 3:38pm

MikeMatronik

Like Shapeshifter said, this duet won't work!
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Reply #8 posted 10/16/06 3:42pm

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Is Janet confused or something?
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Reply #9 posted 10/16/06 3:53pm

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I just hope Mariah tells him (them) hell no. She just got her career back on track. She's only got a good five or 6 years left herself to do the type of songs she's doing now before she'll have market to a more mature audience.

And I don't care if JD The Troll did give her some songs that got her career back on track. It's Mariah's ability to carry a tune that helped what would have been a bunch of mediocre R&B/hip-hop songs to sound more pop oriented and thus marketable to a larger audience.


And I am not a big Mariah fan by any stretch of the imagination.

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Reply #10 posted 10/16/06 3:56pm

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lastdecember said:

Saw this article posted here in the NY Daily News

--From New York Daily News: In a desperate move to breathe life into "20 Y.O.," a source says Dupri is courting Mariah Carey to have a duet with Jackson on a track that would be added to a new version of the disk — even though some estimate Virgin still hasn't moved about 200,000 of the first batch.
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The reason this bothers me, is mainly its to take advantage of your core fans, lets be real if they duet the only people that will buy it are the same people that bought the first version "YOUR LOYAL FANS". Im so sick to death of people holding back tracks so they can double their sales on a re-issue. Its just so frustrating that JD cannot deal with the fact that all artists have "their day" or their few years" where they are everything, its just the way the world goes, NO ONE stays on top forever, u cannot be the "shit" forever, and when you cannot accept that you look like a bigger fool.
They tried this when Whitney Houston and Mariah did a song together. It didn't help Whitney either, Did it VainAndy? lol lol lol
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Reply #11 posted 10/16/06 4:21pm

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Icicle said:

ehuffnsd said:

more importantly... a lesson for all the Jacksons you don't stay on top by doing the same thing over and over!

I wish Janet would go back to doing the sort of music she made in the 80s and 90s, at least more like we`re used to hearing her. The last two albums are horrible confused

I remember when M.Js "You rock my world" came out, people were saying that he was stuck in the 80s, that he used the same formula, but personally, i didn`t see it that way, in fact, the whole album didn`t sound like anything he`s done before.



no it didn't necessarily sound like anything HE had done before, but "You Rock My World" in particular sounded exactly like half a dozen songs from the previous year that were hits. "The Boy Is Mine," "If You Had My Love," "If I Told You That," etc.
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Reply #12 posted 10/16/06 4:24pm

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Shapeshifter said:

Well now, that is what I call unfair - a genuinely gifted singer pitted against someone who increasingly sounds like she currently gets her vocal training from a software program. Elephant against a mosquito. Mariah by first note TKO. That dwarf really is an idiot. Can anyone tell me how the twerp even got a job outside the circus?
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I just can't imagine what it would sound like. Mariah belting out her verse crystal clear (or the closest thing that passes for her in the 00's) and 13 vocal layers of Janet cooing it in hers?


One thing is for sure, though. They'll both be sitting on rappers' laps in the video. lol
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Reply #13 posted 10/16/06 5:32pm

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What good would that be? Janet achieving a hit riding on Queen of charts, Mariah's coattail.
It probably wouldn't do well anyway. Everyone would be able to see right through Janet's desperation and wouldn't support it. Besides, how can a powerful vocalist sing along with someone who whispers all her songs? It would essentially be a Mariah tune given that you wouldn't be able to hear Janet.
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Reply #14 posted 10/16/06 5:56pm

CHIC0

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One thing is for sure, though. They'll both be sitting on rappers' laps in the video. lol



falloff Tessa!



or maybe out-cleavage the other.
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Reply #15 posted 10/16/06 6:04pm

Nick715

I'd buy the new song for .99 on Itunes, I would NOT buy the CD again!
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Reply #16 posted 10/16/06 6:35pm

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CHIC0 said:

Tessa said:

One thing is for sure, though. They'll both be sitting on rappers' laps in the video. lol



falloff Tessa!



or maybe out-cleavage the other.



Janet'll have her boobs out and Mariah will be rockin' her cameltoe and painted-on abs. biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 10/16/06 6:37pm

CHIC0

Tessa said:

CHIC0 said:




falloff Tessa!



or maybe out-cleavage the other.



Janet'll have her boobs out and Mariah will be rockin' her cameltoe and painted-on abs. biggrin



spit ill lol damn!
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Reply #18 posted 10/16/06 8:24pm

goat2004

JackieBlue said:

I love Mariah and I love Janet. Separately. I so don't want this to happen. Do their voices even compliment each other? I guess it could be like the Making Love in the Rain arrangement. If it didn't happen before the album was officially released the first time, maybe it's not supposed to happen.


Not at all..... sad dead rolleyes

I also love them both....separately. The way 2 revitalize Janet's album is to officialy release Enjoy as a single with a great video behind it and have With U as a B side in the video.
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Reply #19 posted 10/16/06 8:29pm

goat2004

I'd actually rather see Mariah duet with this Jackson, but that will never happen..LOL



Mariah's voice is a perfect compliment for a mature male voice. It worked great with Boys 2 Men,Trey Lorenz, and B.McNight...
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Reply #20 posted 10/16/06 8:32pm

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goat2004 said:

JackieBlue said:

I love Mariah and I love Janet. Separately. I so don't want this to happen. Do their voices even compliment each other? I guess it could be like the Making Love in the Rain arrangement. If it didn't happen before the album was officially released the first time, maybe it's not supposed to happen.


Not at all..... sad dead rolleyes

I also love them both....separately. The way 2 revitalize Janet's album is to officialy release Enjoy as a single with a great video behind it and have With U as a B side in the video.



a great video? impossible. she hasn't had a great video since..... shit, i can't even remember. Got Til It's Gone or before?
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Reply #21 posted 10/16/06 8:36pm

goat2004

Tessa said:

goat2004 said:



Not at all..... sad dead rolleyes

I also love them both....separately. The way 2 revitalize Janet's album is to officialy release Enjoy as a single with a great video behind it and have With U as a B side in the video.



a great video? impossible. she hasn't had a great video since..... shit, i can't even remember. Got Til It's Gone or before?


She sounds very good with the single, Enjoy!!!!! and radio is responding to it.
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Reply #22 posted 10/16/06 8:44pm

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Bad idea.
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Reply #23 posted 10/16/06 9:05pm

Tessa

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goat2004 said:

Tessa said:




a great video? impossible. she hasn't had a great video since..... shit, i can't even remember. Got Til It's Gone or before?


She sounds very good with the single, Enjoy!!!!! and radio is responding to it.


excellent. but she still havsn't made a great video in a decade.
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Reply #24 posted 10/16/06 11:02pm

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I'd actually rather see Mariah duet with this Jackson, but that will never happen..LOL



thumbs up!
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Reply #25 posted 10/17/06 2:02am

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I just can´t imagine the two of them together.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #26 posted 10/17/06 4:19am

Rhondab

Tessa said:

Shapeshifter said:

Well now, that is what I call unfair - a genuinely gifted singer pitted against someone who increasingly sounds like she currently gets her vocal training from a software program. Elephant against a mosquito. Mariah by first note TKO. That dwarf really is an idiot. Can anyone tell me how the twerp even got a job outside the circus?
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One thing is for sure, though. They'll both be sitting on rappers' laps in the video. lol



lol
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Reply #27 posted 10/17/06 6:45am

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the video will be hilarious... mariah will be half naked... laying down on a bed or chair... posing one side of her face for the camera... janet will be dancing... and eating strawberries... and all over a guy that is half her age...

Mariah's voice can be just as annoying as janet's maybe even more... only time her voice sounds nice is when she hits those high notes.. other than that... its okay... and janet sings in one octave... the lowest one... lol
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Reply #28 posted 10/17/06 1:34pm

Rhondab

janet should do a duet with ciara....
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Reply #29 posted 10/17/06 2:19pm

Tessa

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Rhondab said:

janet should do a duet with ciara....



honestly, at this point, she should just let Ciara be Janet. their 2 most recent videos are straight from the Janet Jackson mold, except strangely, Ciara's is more Janet than Janet's (and works better). they both suck, but Ciara makes for a better Janet at the moment than Janet does.
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