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Reply #30 posted 10/17/06 1:19am

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Tonight is NOT good Mike.


It's more enjoyable than "Never Let Me Down" and it's worth buying for "Loving The Alien" alone.

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The album version...7 minutes of heaven! music
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Reply #31 posted 10/17/06 1:24am

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Tonight is NOT good Mike.


It's more enjoyable than "Never Let Me Down" and it's worth buying for "Loving The Alien" alone.

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Ok, you're right. And "Blue Jean" ain't too shabby either, but his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.
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Reply #32 posted 10/17/06 1:49am

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MikeMatronik said:

Cheek said:



It's more enjoyable than "Never Let Me Down" and it's worth buying for "Loving The Alien" alone.

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The album version...7 minutes of heaven! music


I also love "Don't Look Down"! love
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Reply #33 posted 10/17/06 1:51am

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...his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.


Agreed. nod
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Reply #34 posted 10/17/06 1:59am

MikeMatronik

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Cheek said:



It's more enjoyable than "Never Let Me Down" and it's worth buying for "Loving The Alien" alone.

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Ok, you're right. And "Blue Jean" ain't too shabby either, but his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.


The video for Blue Jean... feeling ill
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Reply #35 posted 10/17/06 7:03am

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Ok, you're right. And "Blue Jean" ain't too shabby either, but his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.


The video for Blue Jean... feeling ill



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Reply #36 posted 10/17/06 7:10am

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Hunky Dory
Ziggy Stardust
Low
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Reply #37 posted 10/17/06 7:26am

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EmancipationLover said:

mikek1 said:

I've never got into bowie for some reason but i'm always looking for new GREAT music to listen.

I respect him becuase he plays alot of instruments and i'm wondering if there is an ESSENTIAL album that even non-bowie fanatics can appreciate all the way through?

Any advice/info plz?


The 70s surely are full of Bowie greatness, but if you look for some more recent stuff which is great, then I would recommend

"1.Outside" (1995)

and/or

"Heathen" (2001).

"1.Outside" really IS far out, but I would even call it one of the greatest records of the 90s (if you want to open your ears for a bit of avantgarde). "Heathen" is poppier and more melodic imo, depends on what you prefer.


1.Outside is an awesome album, with many great songs on it. Heathen is also a great album.
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Reply #38 posted 10/17/06 7:35am

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David Bowie's strongest album from start to finish in my opinion is, Diamond Dogs or Station To Station. Most of Bowie's albums albums from 1970-80 are brilliant from start to finish.

I wouldn't say The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust& The Spiders From Mars is anywhare near the best David Bowie album. It's a brilliant album, and the classic album that made David Bowie, but it's quite weak compared to albums he released after. Bowie has said that he doesn't feel he hit his full creative potential until Diamond Dogs.

I will even say that Bowie's weakest album of the 1970's ie The Lodger (1979) has a number of great songs on it.
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Reply #39 posted 10/17/06 7:40am

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MikeMatronik said:

Cheek said:



It's more enjoyable than "Never Let Me Down" and it's worth buying for "Loving The Alien" alone.

neutral


The album version...7 minutes of heaven! music


The album version of "Loving The Alien" sure is 7 minutes of heaven, it's such a beautiful song. I also love Blue Jean on the Tonight album, a very catchy song.
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Reply #40 posted 10/17/06 10:27am

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Shapeshifter said:

Cheek said:



It's more enjoyable than "Never Let Me Down" and it's worth buying for "Loving The Alien" alone.

neutral



Ok, you're right. And "Blue Jean" ain't too shabby either, but his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.


I first heard Lust For Life a couple of years ago. It's got several songs from Tonight on it. I never knew.

God Only Knows is Heroes' deformed cousin.
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Reply #41 posted 10/17/06 11:18am

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Shapeshifter said:




Ok, you're right. And "Blue Jean" ain't too shabby either, but his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.


I first heard Lust For Life a couple of years ago. It's got several songs from Tonight on it. I never knew.

God Only Knows is Heroes' deformed cousin.



Lust For Life, The Idiot are among Bowie's greatest albums too. lol He wrote the music for all of them and you can feel his stamp on the first two in particular. Also check out Blah Blah Blah, another Bowie produced Iggy album. Not anywhere as good as the first two (both were jaded by the time they made it), but the magic's still there in tracks like Shades and Isolation. And while I'm on the subject of Mr Pop, I highly recommend you try out Avenue B, Skull Ring, New Values and the three Stooges album. His version of Tonight is miles better than the Bowie/Tina duet. And herein lies the problem with Tonight: the title song was a warped love song to a a girlfriend who ODs. In Bowie's hands it became a record company marketing man's wet dream
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Reply #42 posted 10/17/06 11:37am

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Album? No, songs? yes. The fame 12" and the I'm Afraid of American's 12" are among the best 12"inches I've ever heard.
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Reply #43 posted 10/17/06 11:38am

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Shapeshifter said:

NDRU said:



I first heard Lust For Life a couple of years ago. It's got several songs from Tonight on it. I never knew.

God Only Knows is Heroes' deformed cousin.



Lust For Life, The Idiot are among Bowie's greatest albums too. lol He wrote the music for all of them and you can feel his stamp on the first two in particular. Also check out Blah Blah Blah, another Bowie produced Iggy album. Not anywhere as good as the first two (both were jaded by the time they made it), but the magic's still there in tracks like Shades and Isolation. And while I'm on the subject of Mr Pop, I highly recommend you try out Avenue B, Skull Ring, New Values and the three Stooges album. His version of Tonight is miles better than the Bowie/Tina duet. And herein lies the problem with Tonight: the title song was a warped love song to a a girlfriend who ODs. In Bowie's hands it became a record company marketing man's wet dream


nod The bg vocals & guitars are all Bowie.

Transformer sounds like a Bowie album, too. Satellite of Love particularly. Also probably Lou's best album.
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Reply #44 posted 10/17/06 11:51am

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Album? No, songs? yes. The fame 12" and the I'm Afraid of American's 12" are among the best 12"inches I've ever heard.

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Reply #45 posted 10/17/06 11:57am

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Maybe you should start with a "Best Of"?

It's a good place to start, especially if you never really go into him in the first place.
"You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride"
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Reply #46 posted 10/17/06 12:12pm

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Maybe you should start with a "Best Of"?

It's a good place to start, especially if you never really go into him in the first place.


lord knows that alone is a difficult decision. Only Madonna has more compilations.

But I started with Fame & Fashion after I got Let's Dance way back when.
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Reply #47 posted 10/17/06 12:16pm

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he has many "must have" albums.


Station To Station
Ziggy
Hunky Dory
Aladdin Sane
Heathen
Low
The Best Of David Bowie 1969-1974 is a good place to start, really. I suppose the 2 follow-ups are decent samplers as well, but I think they're pretty flawed. The first one is perfect, though.
"I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you."
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Reply #48 posted 10/17/06 12:19pm

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NDRU said:

Shapeshifter said:




Lust For Life, The Idiot are among Bowie's greatest albums too. lol He wrote the music for all of them and you can feel his stamp on the first two in particular. Also check out Blah Blah Blah, another Bowie produced Iggy album. Not anywhere as good as the first two (both were jaded by the time they made it), but the magic's still there in tracks like Shades and Isolation. And while I'm on the subject of Mr Pop, I highly recommend you try out Avenue B, Skull Ring, New Values and the three Stooges album. His version of Tonight is miles better than the Bowie/Tina duet. And herein lies the problem with Tonight: the title song was a warped love song to a a girlfriend who ODs. In Bowie's hands it became a record company marketing man's wet dream


nod The bg vocals & guitars are all Bowie.

Transformer sounds like a Bowie album, too. Satellite of Love particularly. Also probably Lou's best album.


Definitely NOT Lou's best in my opinion (note the lack of "humble"). Berlin, Ecstasy, Street Hassle, Coney Island Baby, New York, Magic & Loss, New Sensations and The Blue Mask are all masterpieces.
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Reply #49 posted 10/17/06 12:19pm

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NDRU said:

Shapeshifter said:




Lust For Life, The Idiot are among Bowie's greatest albums too. lol He wrote the music for all of them and you can feel his stamp on the first two in particular. Also check out Blah Blah Blah, another Bowie produced Iggy album. Not anywhere as good as the first two (both were jaded by the time they made it), but the magic's still there in tracks like Shades and Isolation. And while I'm on the subject of Mr Pop, I highly recommend you try out Avenue B, Skull Ring, New Values and the three Stooges album. His version of Tonight is miles better than the Bowie/Tina duet. And herein lies the problem with Tonight: the title song was a warped love song to a a girlfriend who ODs. In Bowie's hands it became a record company marketing man's wet dream


nod The bg vocals & guitars are all Bowie.

Transformer sounds like a Bowie album, too. Satellite of Love particularly. Also probably Lou's best album.


Yeah, they're very prominent in both The Idiot and Lust for Life. What a wonderful period that was for Bowie - he produced FOUR superb albums in that short space of time.
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Reply #50 posted 10/17/06 12:24pm

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NDRU said:

Shapeshifter said:




Ok, you're right. And "Blue Jean" ain't too shabby either, but his version of "God Only Knows" should have been strangled at birth.


I first heard Lust For Life a couple of years ago. It's got several songs from Tonight on it. I never knew.

God Only Knows is Heroes' deformed cousin.



They're NOT even related.
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Reply #51 posted 10/17/06 12:25pm

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Shapeshifter said:

NDRU said:



nod The bg vocals & guitars are all Bowie.

Transformer sounds like a Bowie album, too. Satellite of Love particularly. Also probably Lou's best album.


Definitely NOT Lou's best in my opinion (note the lack of "humble"). Berlin, Ecstasy, Street Hassle, Coney Island Baby, New York, Magic & Loss, New Sensations and The Blue Mask are all masterpieces.


Interesting in relation to the shared songs on Tonight and Lust For Life:

I revently got Velvet Underground's VU, and was surprised to hear the original versions of the Lou Reed songs that I already knew from his solo albums.
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Reply #52 posted 10/17/06 12:30pm

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NDRU said:

Shapeshifter said:



Definitely NOT Lou's best in my opinion (note the lack of "humble"). Berlin, Ecstasy, Street Hassle, Coney Island Baby, New York, Magic & Loss, New Sensations and The Blue Mask are all masterpieces.


Interesting in relation to the shared songs on Tonight and Lust For Life:

I revently got Velvet Underground's VU, and was surprised to hear the original versions of the Lou Reed songs that I already knew from his solo albums.



We can split hairs over this, but which do you prefer? The original Heroin or the Rock n Roll Animal black mass interpretation? I used to prefer the latter, but now i prefer the original.

Back when Loaded originally came out, Lou told everyone who'd listen that the original unedited version of the song with its "heavenly wine and roses" refrain was the best and "true" version of the song, but he never played it that way solo. He played the edited version.
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Reply #53 posted 10/17/06 12:44pm

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Shapeshifter said:

NDRU said:



Interesting in relation to the shared songs on Tonight and Lust For Life:

I revently got Velvet Underground's VU, and was surprised to hear the original versions of the Lou Reed songs that I already knew from his solo albums.



We can split hairs over this, but which do you prefer? The original Heroin or the Rock n Roll Animal black mass interpretation? I used to prefer the latter, but now i prefer the original.

Back when Loaded originally came out, Lou told everyone who'd listen that the original unedited version of the song with its "heavenly wine and roses" refrain was the best and "true" version of the song, but he never played it that way solo. He played the edited version.


generally I prefer the simpler garage sound of the Velvets to the big 70's rock sound of Berlin & Animal. It's a similar complaint I have with some of Lennon's stuff--Mind Games & Some Time in New York, for example.

But it is kind of splitting hairs, yes, because I love Berlin and the big guitar of How Do You Think It Feels?, the Neil Diamond beat & orchestral instrumentation of Caroline Says.
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Reply #54 posted 10/17/06 12:58pm

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NDRU said:

shockadelicaa said:

Maybe you should start with a "Best Of"?

It's a good place to start, especially if you never really go into him in the first place.


lord knows that alone is a difficult decision. Only Madonna has more compilations.

But I started with Fame & Fashion after I got Let's Dance way back when.



Changesbowie is the right choice
"Todo está bien chévere" Stevie
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Reply #55 posted 10/17/06 1:14pm

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dammme said:

NDRU said:



lord knows that alone is a difficult decision. Only Madonna has more compilations.

But I started with Fame & Fashion after I got Let's Dance way back when.



Changesbowie is the right choice


Doesn't that have the Fame-f-f-f-fame '90 remix? yech!
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Reply #56 posted 10/17/06 1:20pm

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Bowie was Prince before Prince, so yes.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #57 posted 10/17/06 1:26pm

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NDRU said:

Shapeshifter said:




We can split hairs over this, but which do you prefer? The original Heroin or the Rock n Roll Animal black mass interpretation? I used to prefer the latter, but now i prefer the original.

Back when Loaded originally came out, Lou told everyone who'd listen that the original unedited version of the song with its "heavenly wine and roses" refrain was the best and "true" version of the song, but he never played it that way solo. He played the edited version.


generally I prefer the simpler garage sound of the Velvets to the big 70's rock sound of Berlin & Animal. It's a similar complaint I have with some of Lennon's stuff--Mind Games & Some Time in New York, for example.

But it is kind of splitting hairs, yes, because I love Berlin and the big guitar of How Do You Think It Feels?, the Neil Diamond beat & orchestral instrumentation of Caroline Says.
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NEIL DIAMOND!!!!! AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!! lol

Nah, that was rock n roll Wagner mate. Bob Ezrin was Jim Steinman with brains. By the way, do you know Ezrin reused the score from Sad Song on Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb, which he also produced. Listen closely and you'll hear it.
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Reply #58 posted 10/17/06 2:06pm

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NDRU said:

dammme said:




Changesbowie is the right choice


Doesn't that have the Fame-f-f-f-fame '90 remix? yech!

Well, I like that remix smile
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Reply #59 posted 10/17/06 2:13pm

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Shapeshifter said:

NDRU said:



generally I prefer the simpler garage sound of the Velvets to the big 70's rock sound of Berlin & Animal. It's a similar complaint I have with some of Lennon's stuff--Mind Games & Some Time in New York, for example.

But it is kind of splitting hairs, yes, because I love Berlin and the big guitar of How Do You Think It Feels?, the Neil Diamond beat & orchestral instrumentation of Caroline Says.
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NEIL DIAMOND!!!!! AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!! lol

Nah, that was rock n roll Wagner mate. Bob Ezrin was Jim Steinman with brains. By the way, do you know Ezrin reused the score from Sad Song on Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb, which he also produced. Listen closely and you'll hear it.
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like Wagner, like he was a racist? just kidding.

no way, really? ok I can hear the descending lines in my head now. Interesting.

Yes, Caroline Says reminds me of Neil Diamond. That catchy 4 square beat is right out of Desiree or America. Most of me hates him, but I recognize that he was popular for a reason. But Lou was always high art where Neil is lowest common denominator.
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