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Reply #90 posted 10/19/06 2:16pm

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JackieBlue said:

I think it's #19. neutral



Oh dear. lol
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Reply #91 posted 10/19/06 2:18pm

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Tessa said:[quote]

TotalAlisa said:

THE sad thing is HALF OF THESE PEOPLE talking trash about janet's album has NOT EVEN BOUGHT THE ALBUM.... they are just bashing... janet... and they do NOT know what their talking about....

this album is one of her best... i would say in her top 3 or 4 albums... its an album i would recommend to any janet fan...

I expected the album to sound bad like DJ... but when i listened to it... I was shocked... it actually sounded great...

so until you bought janet's album and listen to each song... you have NO RIGHT TO BASH HER ALBUM...

otherwise your just being mean.



if the first 2 singles are crap, why would anyone want to buy it?

and my problem isn't even the lackluster album. i mean, i'm used to that, 3 times in a row now. what i'm unhappy about is the style of music it is as opposed to all the hype that it was to commemorate the 20th anniversary of Control, and the way she's promoting herself (with her tits again).



I can't get enough of her tits. lol Look, if she had released the album and stayed covered up no one would have noticed her - especially me. lol Her tits should get a recording contract.
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Reply #92 posted 10/19/06 2:21pm

MikeMatronik

will this thread overthrown the tori threads in terms of responses?????
lol
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Reply #93 posted 10/19/06 7:00pm

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Shapeshifter said:

Ellie said:

clapping @ JackieBlue

AND I even forgot to mention the brilliant R&B Junkie in my last post. Take out Moist, Warmth, the insipid My Baby, Island Life and Just A Little While and DJ is a very solid album...

OK, so half a solid album. Still more than I can say for 20 YO. I just can;t get my head around anyone calling Enjoy or Daybreak "classic Janet" eek
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Isn't Moist just so fucking embarassing?



Is Moist just so fucking embarassing?nod


You're feelin' in it
You're ticklin' it
You're swimming in it
You're gonna get it

I'm insatiable
And it's all your fault
So much lust involved
To get me off
My water falls

Your sexuality (breeds)
A storm inside of me (seas)
A touch is all I need
To make me scream
Obscenities

Every time you whisper in my ear I get aroused
You begin to slowly unbutton my blouse
Kissing on my skin my heart's racing now

I want you boy

Caught up in the waves of passion up and down
Love the way you movin?my body all around
Boy you 'bout to make the rain come down

Chorus

Feel my rain come
Pouring soaking
Longing your lips
Baby ooh

You make it so moist

When my ocean's overflowing
Afterglowing
Take me oooh

You make me so moist

Orgasmic
Row it just like that
Hope you like drowning in it
You won't have a life jacket

My thirst is quenched
Ooh baby we're so drenched
Our body's rhythms are
So cataclysmic
Got me twisted

Feeling your anatomy breaking me down
Sucking on my (mmm) with ice in your mouth
Hurry and undress me take me right now
I'm wet for you boy
Caught up in the waves of passion up and down
Love the way you movin?my body all around

Boy you know you make the rain come down
You know how to make my rain come down

Chorus

4x
You're feelin' in it
You're ticklin' it
You're swimming in it
You're gonna get it
Moist
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Reply #94 posted 10/19/06 7:04pm

sallysassalot

i like moist a lot more than most of her sex jams.

i think damita jo is a strong record. i skip more tracks on janet and all for you than i do on damita jo.
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Reply #95 posted 10/20/06 9:27am

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I think what ruined her album was Call on Me,. I have had several conversations with folks, even Janet fans, and no one really loved the song, they didn't hate it, but the song was nothing write home about.

Now in terms of trying to attract a pop/younger audience, the song, With U, has the best chance to grab a wider demographic. Enjoy, is the single that us Janet fans love. Perhaps she can release both; lord knows she needs to, have a B side or something like that. The main video could be With U...and then towards the end, they could switch to Enjoy. That way they R promoting both singles...this needs to be done immediately.

The only problem is that most record companies stop promoting an album after the first single, let alone the second single, especially if the album didn't push enough units. Janet mey have to dig into Jermaine's pocket (and he's got plenty of cash) to make this happen...it looks like Virgin is done with her.
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Reply #96 posted 10/20/06 10:20am

MikeMatronik

We can only pray to our lady:

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Reply #97 posted 10/20/06 12:56pm

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goat2004 said:

I think what ruined her album was Call on Me,. I have had several conversations with folks, even Janet fans, and no one really loved the song, they didn't hate it, but the song was nothing write home about.

Now in terms of trying to attract a pop/younger audience, the song, With U, has the best chance to grab a wider demographic. Enjoy, is the single that us Janet fans love. Perhaps she can release both; lord knows she needs to, have a B side or something like that. The main video could be With U...and then towards the end, they could switch to Enjoy. That way they R promoting both singles...this needs to be done immediately.

The only problem is that most record companies stop promoting an album after the first single, let alone the second single, especially if the album didn't push enough units. Janet mey have to dig into Jermaine's pocket (and he's got plenty of cash) to make this happen...it looks like Virgin is done with her.


What ruined 20 YO were a). most of the songs, which are crap and b). all of the production, which is by the numbers interchangeable r n b fare you can hear anywhere. Janet went from being unique to a obsolete.

It's Janet's last album for Virgin. DJ didn't do particulartly well and 20 YO has flopped worldwide (and underperformed in the US), plus her gnome svengali-lover-cult leader is already badmouthing the company while the album's corpse is still warm, so Virgin are hardly likely to perform corporate Cpu on it. They're gonna let it bleed and die.

Expect a greatest hits early next year.
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Reply #98 posted 10/20/06 1:02pm

ladygirl99

MikeMatronik said:

We can only pray to our lady:


I didn't know that Madonna have brown hands. lol
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Reply #99 posted 10/20/06 1:03pm

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sallysassalot said:

i like moist a lot more than most of her sex jams.

Moist is ridiculous. Kind of song to wear in a downpour because it will keep you dry.

i think damita jo is a strong record. i skip more tracks on janet and all for you than i do on damita jo.



Janet's a great album. Did you hear it when it first came out? It was really something - akin to that "Whoah! Who's SHE?!!!!" feeling you get whenever you see a beautiful woman walk into a room (or whatever raises your flag). She was ahead of her time then and everyone followed suit.

She tried to remake Janet on Damita Jo from the title to the cover (yup, half naked in jeans, covering your tits - got it, J) to the contents, and, for the most part, it just didn't work out. A lot of the songs were desperate attempts at reclaiming lost ground.
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Reply #100 posted 10/20/06 1:04pm

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ladygirl99 said:

MikeMatronik said:

We can only pray to our lady:


I didn't know that Madonna have brown hands. lol



There's about the blessed lady you don't know. wink The shot was probably taken after she double fisted Guy.
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Reply #101 posted 10/20/06 1:05pm

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Shapeshifter said:

ladygirl99 said:


I didn't know that Madonna have brown hands. lol



There's about the blessed lady you don't know. wink The shot was probably taken after she double fisted Guy.
[Edited 10/20/06 13:04pm]

Well at least it should be more realistic if going all that trouble to photoshop was all I am saying hehe. biggrin
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Reply #102 posted 10/20/06 1:08pm

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Shapeshifter said:

sallysassalot said:

i like moist a lot more than most of her sex jams.

Moist is ridiculous. Kind of song to wear in a downpour because it will keep you dry.

i think damita jo is a strong record. i skip more tracks on janet and all for you than i do on damita jo.



Janet's a great album. Did you hear it when it first came out? It was really something - akin to that "Whoah! Who's SHE?!!!!" feeling you get whenever you see a beautiful woman walk into a room (or whatever raises your flag). She was ahead of her time then and everyone followed suit.

She tried to remake Janet on Damita Jo from the title to the cover (yup, half naked in jeans, covering your tits - got it, J) to the contents, and, for the most part, it just didn't work out. A lot of the songs were desperate attempts at reclaiming lost ground.

i've been with janet since dreamstreet, lol! yeah, i bought janet when it was brand new. i love the first half of the record and i like the second half but i'm not gaga over it the way most people are. i enjoy damita jo more than janet. shrug

and i agree that folks were shocked at her new image when janet came out but...it ain't about image to me. i just want a record i can groove to and damita jo is non stop, i think.
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Reply #103 posted 10/20/06 1:09pm

ladygirl99

I haven't hear the album yet but I was disappointed by "Call on Me" but I really like "So Excited.

So I am going to see where I can hear her album before I make my judgement on it. But I agreed what folks said that JD should have less involvement with the album. One of her biggest mistakes is trying to promote her album to the same audience who viewed her old enough to be their grandmother.
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Reply #104 posted 10/20/06 1:58pm

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ladygirl99 said:

I haven't hear the album yet but I was disappointed by "Call on Me" but I really like "So Excited.

So I am going to see where I can hear her album before I make my judgement on it. But I agreed what folks said that JD should have less involvement with the album. One of her biggest mistakes is trying to promote her album to the same audience who viewed her old enough to be their grandmother.



You'll be disappointed when you hear it. I downloaded an early copy, with every intention of buying it, but when I heard it I decided to save my cash and wait for next year's More Great Tits compilation.
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Reply #105 posted 10/20/06 2:00pm

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sallysassalot said:

Shapeshifter said:




Janet's a great album. Did you hear it when it first came out? It was really something - akin to that "Whoah! Who's SHE?!!!!" feeling you get whenever you see a beautiful woman walk into a room (or whatever raises your flag). She was ahead of her time then and everyone followed suit.

She tried to remake Janet on Damita Jo from the title to the cover (yup, half naked in jeans, covering your tits - got it, J) to the contents, and, for the most part, it just didn't work out. A lot of the songs were desperate attempts at reclaiming lost ground.

i've been with janet since dreamstreet, lol! yeah, i bought janet when it was brand new. i love the first half of the record and i like the second half but i'm not gaga over it the way most people are. i enjoy damita jo more than janet. shrug

and i agree that folks were shocked at her new image when janet came out but...it ain't about image to me. i just want a record i can groove to and damita jo is non stop, i think.



Well, get yo' sexgroove on to these couplets about coupling:

You're feelin' in it
You're ticklin' it
You're swimming in it
You're gonna get it

I'm insatiable
And it's all your fault
So much lust involved
To get me off
My water falls


I mean, embarassing or what? Get a room girl. And to think she wrote that shit about Lil' DuPrick.
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Reply #106 posted 10/20/06 2:08pm

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I think the janet album is a marker because it was Janet with the new look, body and hair and the lead single TTWLG was just mature and sexy. A smooth mellow undeniable groove without being overtly sexual. I thought she would continue to make music along those lines.
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Reply #107 posted 10/20/06 2:16pm

sallysassalot

Shapeshifter said:

sallysassalot said:


i've been with janet since dreamstreet, lol! yeah, i bought janet when it was brand new. i love the first half of the record and i like the second half but i'm not gaga over it the way most people are. i enjoy damita jo more than janet. shrug

and i agree that folks were shocked at her new image when janet came out but...it ain't about image to me. i just want a record i can groove to and damita jo is non stop, i think.



Well, get yo' sexgroove on to these couplets about coupling:

You're feelin' in it
You're ticklin' it
You're swimming in it
You're gonna get it

I'm insatiable
And it's all your fault
So much lust involved
To get me off
My water falls


I mean, embarassing or what? Get a room girl. And to think she wrote that shit about Lil' DuPrick.
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i'm sorry but moist is one of my faves from that record. i love it! nod
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Reply #108 posted 10/20/06 2:22pm

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okay okay okay okay okay... I admit that I liked the melody and arrangment of Moist. There. I've confessed. HOWEVER, the lyrics were atrocious. When I really understood what she was saying it ruined it for me. Knowing it was probably about Dupri made it even worse. Now I can't listen to it without tasting a little bile in the back of my throat. feeling ill

Besides, moist is one of those irritating words like nougat or panache.
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Reply #109 posted 10/20/06 9:15pm

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LIKE I SAID... IF YOU DIDNT BUY THE ALBUM..... THEN DONT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT... BECAUSE WHATEVER NEGATIVE THING YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE ALBUM.. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HEARD... IS IRRELIVANT...

DAMTA JO in my opinion was a bunch of hip hop crap... crammed with annoying rappers.. on the album


20 Y.O. sounds like classic janet...
i dont understand how can you like the velvet rope and the Janet album... but not like 20 Y.O>.... when 20. Y.O. sounds like the classic 90's janet....

With U, Do it @ Me and Take Care sounds like classic janet

if you dont like this album 20 Y.O.... then im assuming you never liked janet's previous works....



NOw all of a sudden everyone is on here claiming they like DAmita jo.... after janets new 20 Y.O album came out.... but before her new album came out... Everyone was bashing Damita jo...


its like with janet.... (in the words of her brother MIchael jackson), "you can't win"... YOu guys never give janet a break....
and when janet finally goes back to her roots with this album...you guys still want to complain..
if she did a Damita jo part two... you still would be complaining...
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Reply #110 posted 10/21/06 1:46am

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TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID... IF YOU DIDNT BUY THE ALBUM..... THEN DONT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT... BECAUSE WHATEVER NEGATIVE THING YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE ALBUM.. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HEARD... IS IRRELIVANT...

DAMTA JO in my opinion was a bunch of hip hop crap... crammed with annoying rappers.. on the album


20 Y.O. sounds like classic janet...
i dont understand how can you like the velvet rope and the Janet album... but not like 20 Y.O>.... when 20. Y.O. sounds like the classic 90's janet....

With U, Do it @ Me and Take Care sounds like classic janet

if you dont like this album 20 Y.O.... then im assuming you never liked janet's previous works....



NOw all of a sudden everyone is on here claiming they like DAmita jo.... after janets new 20 Y.O album came out.... but before her new album came out... Everyone was bashing Damita jo...


its like with janet.... (in the words of her brother MIchael jackson), "you can't win"... YOu guys never give janet a break....
and when janet finally goes back to her roots with this album...you guys still want to complain..
if she did a Damita jo part two... you still would be complaining...


You're a true hardcore Janfan - one of the few lone post-JD apocalyptic survivors left .... I admire your loyalty but question your judgement.

If 20 YO is "classic Janet" then Control, RN, Janet, TVR and half of AFY were all crap and I didn't realise. lol
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Reply #111 posted 10/21/06 10:33am

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TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID... IF YOU DIDNT BUY THE ALBUM..... THEN DONT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT... BECAUSE WHATEVER NEGATIVE THING YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE ALBUM.. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HEARD... IS IRRELIVANT...

DAMTA JO in my opinion was a bunch of hip hop crap... crammed with annoying rappers.. on the album


20 Y.O. sounds like classic janet...
i dont understand how can you like the velvet rope and the Janet album... but not like 20 Y.O>.... when 20. Y.O. sounds like the classic 90's janet....

With U, Do it @ Me and Take Care sounds like classic janet

if you dont like this album 20 Y.O.... then im assuming you never liked janet's previous works....



NOw all of a sudden everyone is on here claiming they like DAmita jo.... after janets new 20 Y.O album came out.... but before her new album came out... Everyone was bashing Damita jo...


its like with janet.... (in the words of her brother MIchael jackson), "you can't win"... YOu guys never give janet a break....
and when janet finally goes back to her roots with this album...you guys still want to complain..
if she did a Damita jo part two... you still would be complaining...

oh. ok. NOW i get it.


you're crazy! that explains it all!
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Reply #112 posted 10/21/06 10:39am

MikeMatronik

sallysassalot said:

TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID... IF YOU DIDNT BUY THE ALBUM..... THEN DONT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT... BECAUSE WHATEVER NEGATIVE THING YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE ALBUM.. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HEARD... IS IRRELIVANT...

DAMTA JO in my opinion was a bunch of hip hop crap... crammed with annoying rappers.. on the album


20 Y.O. sounds like classic janet...
i dont understand how can you like the velvet rope and the Janet album... but not like 20 Y.O>.... when 20. Y.O. sounds like the classic 90's janet....

With U, Do it @ Me and Take Care sounds like classic janet

if you dont like this album 20 Y.O.... then im assuming you never liked janet's previous works....



NOw all of a sudden everyone is on here claiming they like DAmita jo.... after janets new 20 Y.O album came out.... but before her new album came out... Everyone was bashing Damita jo...


its like with janet.... (in the words of her brother MIchael jackson), "you can't win"... YOu guys never give janet a break....
and when janet finally goes back to her roots with this album...you guys still want to complain..
if she did a Damita jo part two... you still would be complaining...

oh. ok. NOW i get it.


you're crazy! that explains it all!


TotalAlise, darling...

Sorry to say this but there's only one rapper on Damita Jo: KANYE WEST

A big hug

Miguel Ávila
(closeted jan fan!)
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Reply #113 posted 10/21/06 10:42am

jayaredee

MikeMatronik said:

We can only pray to our lady:



pray

Hail Madonna full of grace, please save Janet's album from falling into the fires of hell. Amen.
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Reply #114 posted 10/21/06 10:42am

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TotalAlisa said:

LIKE I SAID... IF YOU DIDNT BUY THE ALBUM..... THEN DONT MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT IT... BECAUSE WHATEVER NEGATIVE THING YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE ALBUM.. YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HEARD... IS IRRELIVANT...

DAMTA JO in my opinion was a bunch of hip hop crap... crammed with annoying rappers.. on the album


20 Y.O. sounds like classic janet...
i dont understand how can you like the velvet rope and the Janet album... but not like 20 Y.O>.... when 20. Y.O. sounds like the classic 90's janet....

With U, Do it @ Me and Take Care sounds like classic janet

if you dont like this album 20 Y.O.... then im assuming you never liked janet's previous works....



NOw all of a sudden everyone is on here claiming they like DAmita jo.... after janets new 20 Y.O album came out.... but before her new album came out... Everyone was bashing Damita jo...


its like with janet.... (in the words of her brother MIchael jackson), "you can't win"... YOu guys never give janet a break....
and when janet finally goes back to her roots with this album...you guys still want to complain..
if she did a Damita jo part two... you still would be complaining...



What? you call 20 YO classic Janet? If that's classic Janet then music IS dead. Perhaps you should take the time to re-listen to Control, Rhythmn Nation, Janet and Velvet Rope.

Damita Jo SUCKS, 20 YO SUCKS! What's sad is that you actually said she was going back to her roots - YIPES!
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Reply #115 posted 10/21/06 10:47am

jayaredee

I agree with Ellie. Damita Jo could have been a great pop album if it shaved off the shit songs and pointless interludes.

One thing i'll say for 20 Y.O is that it flows a lot better than All for You or Damita Jo.
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Reply #116 posted 10/21/06 10:56am

MikeMatronik

jayaredee said:

MikeMatronik said:

We can only pray to our lady:



pray

Hail Madonna full of grace, please save Janet's album from falling into the fires of hell. Amen.


May our lady guide the young jackson through this tumultuous time! pray
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Reply #117 posted 10/21/06 10:58am

MikeMatronik

jayaredee said:

I agree with Ellie. Damita Jo could have been a great pop album if it shaved off the shit songs and pointless interludes.

One thing i'll say for 20 Y.O is that it flows a lot better than All for You or Damita Jo.


well

cut damita jo, sexhibition and the interlude...! cool
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Reply #118 posted 10/21/06 11:20am

sallysassalot

MikeMatronik said:

sallysassalot said:


oh. ok. NOW i get it.


you're crazy! that explains it all!


TotalAlise, darling...

Sorry to say this but there's only one rapper on Damita Jo: KANYE WEST

A big hug

Miguel Ávila
(closeted jan fan!)

yeah, as opposed to 20 Y.O. where there is a guest rap on virtually half of the songs.

like i said..."crazy."
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Reply #119 posted 10/21/06 2:32pm

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Janet fans are reminding me of Michael fans more and more. neutral
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