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Has anyone read any great autobios/bios on great artists? miles davis Little remorse; some of y'll have prob read this
charles mingus;sick! Any fav books? Sick or fav stories? I seems ALL great artists are disturbed and crazy. | |
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Wishing On The Moon: The Life & Times Of Billie Holiday - Donald Clarke; My FAVE.
Divided Souls: The Life & Times Of Marvin Gaye - David Ritz I, Tina - Tina Turner & Kurt Louder(sp?) Music Is My Mistress - Duke Ellington The Hungry Heart - Jean Claude Baker(Josephine Baker bio) Through The Fire - Chaka Khan Brother Ray - David Ritz I Put A Spell On You - Nina Simone DMSR:The 1st 10 Years - Per Neilson And yes, ALL of them are dysFUNKtional [Edited 10/10/06 13:26pm] | |
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Harlepolis said: Wishing On The Moon: The Life & Times Of Billie Holiday - Donald Clarke; My FAVE.
Divided Souls: The Life & Times Of Marvin Gaye - David Ritz I, Tina - Tina Turner & Kurt Louder(sp?) Music Is My Mistress - Duke Ellington The Hungry Heart - Jean Claude Baker(Josephine Baker bio) Through The Fire - Chaka Khan Brother Ray - David Ritz I Put A Spell On You - Nina Simone DMSR:The 1st 10 Years - Per Neilson And yes, ALL of them are dysFUNKtional [Edited 10/10/06 13:26pm] I read someone on another site sayin Mr gaye had something in common with icke turner; ya dig? Is that true? | |
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mikek1 said: Harlepolis said: Wishing On The Moon: The Life & Times Of Billie Holiday - Donald Clarke; My FAVE.
Divided Souls: The Life & Times Of Marvin Gaye - David Ritz I, Tina - Tina Turner & Kurt Louder(sp?) Music Is My Mistress - Duke Ellington The Hungry Heart - Jean Claude Baker(Josephine Baker bio) Through The Fire - Chaka Khan Brother Ray - David Ritz I Put A Spell On You - Nina Simone DMSR:The 1st 10 Years - Per Neilson And yes, ALL of them are dysFUNKtional [Edited 10/10/06 13:26pm] I read someone on another site sayin Mr gaye had something in common with icke turner; ya dig? Is that true? He gave Nona's mother hell(Janis, I think thats her name) abusing her verbally. At the end of his life, he used to beat women publicly. God rest his soul though. | |
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Harlepolis said: mikek1 said: I read someone on another site sayin Mr gaye had something in common with icke turner; ya dig? Is that true? He gave Nona's mother hell(Janis, I think thats her name) abusing her verbally. At the end of his life, he used to beat women publicly. God rest his soul though. why is this trait always common in the best artists? It's disheartening to know. I mean lennon, icke, biggie, axl rose, john bonham, keith moon, hendrix, james brown, mingus, davis ; DAMN! | |
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1)Dreamgirl: My Life As A Supreme by Mary Wilson
2)Dez Dickerson's book on his time with Prince 3)Quincy Jones' book GO GET ALL THREE!!!!! | |
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woogiebear said: 1)Dreamgirl: My Life As A Supreme by Mary Wilson
2)Dez Dickerson's book on his time with Prince 3)Quincy Jones' book GO GET ALL THREE!!!!! Does quincy explain the creative process on MJ albums? | |
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James Brown & Aretha Franklin biographies ain't to go home for they're full of lies and self-built bullshit.
Wait till they die or lose power over their surrounding,,,then check out their new-to-come bios. Something about them put a fear on anybody they meet, intimidation? I think its deeper than that. They're VERY secretive about their lives and when they had the chances to speak on it, they only gave half-truths. Although yes, James was abusive to women(Tammi Terrell had her shares from him, so did his other female vocalists; Lynn Collins was tired of his possessive nature - he'd go low as to tap her phone anywhere she went). Aretha is just a complex woman; period. From the way she was raised, to the gap her mother left when she died so early, to the self-distructivness. Naturaly, a RELIGIOUS person who sings secular songs will always have deep troubled issues about the way he/she lives their lives(Sam Cooke went through it, Marvin Gaye went through it, Ray Charles went through it and Aretha went through it). [Edited 10/10/06 13:53pm] | |
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Harlepolis said: James Brown & Aretha Franklin biographies ain't to go home for they're full of lies and self-built bullshit.
Wait till they die or lose power over their surrounding,,,then check out their new-to-come bios. Something about them put a fear on anybody they meet, intimidation? I think its deeper than that. They're VERY secretive about their lives and when they had the chances to speak on it, they only gave half-truths. Although yes, James was abusive to women(Tammi Terrell had her shares from him, so did his other female vocalists; Lynn Collins was tired of his possessive nature - he'd go low as to tap her phone anywhere she went). Aretha is just a complex woman; period. From the way she was raised, to the gap her mother left when she died so early, to the self-distructivness. Naturaly, a RELIGIOUS person who sings secular songs will always have deep troubled issues about the way he/she lives their lives(Sam Cooke went through it, Marvin Gaye went through it, Ray Charles went through it and Aretha went through it). [Edited 10/10/06 13:53pm] yes religion is the root of all evil. | |
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mikek1 said: Harlepolis said: James Brown & Aretha Franklin biographies ain't to go home for they're full of lies and self-built bullshit.
Wait till they die or lose power over their surrounding,,,then check out their new-to-come bios. Something about them put a fear on anybody they meet, intimidation? I think its deeper than that. They're VERY secretive about their lives and when they had the chances to speak on it, they only gave half-truths. Although yes, James was abusive to women(Tammi Terrell had her shares from him, so did his other female vocalists; Lynn Collins was tired of his possessive nature - he'd go low as to tap her phone anywhere she went). Aretha is just a complex woman; period. From the way she was raised, to the gap her mother left when she died so early, to the self-distructivness. Naturaly, a RELIGIOUS person who sings secular songs will always have deep troubled issues about the way he/she lives their lives(Sam Cooke went through it, Marvin Gaye went through it, Ray Charles went through it and Aretha went through it). [Edited 10/10/06 13:53pm] yes religion is the root of all evil. Nah,,,self-doubt is. | |
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take it like a man - boy george. spectacular and terrifying account of drug addiction.
i, tina - tina turner and kurt loder Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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Grace Slick's autobiography was really good, so was Anthony Kiedis'.
I like "Love Janis" the book Laura Joplin wrote for her sister, though it did gloss over Janis' lesbianism. Guess Laura wasn't too proud. "You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride" | |
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shockadelicaa said: Grace Slick's autobiography was really good, so was Anthony Kiedis'.
I like "Love Janis" the book Laura Joplin wrote for her sister, though it did gloss over Janis' lesbianism. Guess Laura wasn't too proud. why should sexuality even be an issue? | |
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mikek1 said: shockadelicaa said: Grace Slick's autobiography was really good, so was Anthony Kiedis'.
I like "Love Janis" the book Laura Joplin wrote for her sister, though it did gloss over Janis' lesbianism. Guess Laura wasn't too proud. why should sexuality even be an issue? if it's a biography of a person's life... it kind of bears mentioning, especially when it's a gay or lesbian person. the kind of opposition you face as a gay/lesbian person tends to alter for better or worse who you are as a person. now if the book were jsut about her music, not her life, i agree. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: mikek1 said: why should sexuality even be an issue? if it's a biography of a person's life... it kind of bears mentioning, especially when it's a gay or lesbian person. the kind of opposition you face as a gay/lesbian person tends to alter for better or worse who you are as a person. now if the book were jsut about her music, not her life, i agree. It is a biography on her life. Laura Joplin mentioned Peggy Caserta, Janis' longtime girlfriend and probably one of the most important people in Janis' life, only twice, both times in passing. Lesbianism isn't immediately associated wth Janis Joplin (and it shouldn't be) but it would be nice if her sister could actually mention it, not pretend it didn't happen. "You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride" | |
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The Temptations by Otis Williams
LL Cool J: I Make My Own Rules Prince: Possessed: The Rise and Fall of Prince Marvin Gaye: Divided Soul I gotta hurry up and read Ray Charles' and Deborah Santana's autobios!!! Check me out and add me on:
www.last.fm/user/brandosoul "Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for." -Bob Marley | |
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U've read just about every bio on great soul/funk artist..as well as rockers like zeppelin, marc bolan the doors..and janis | |
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There's a good book about Jimi Hendrix called Room Full Of Mirrors. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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babynoz said: There's a good book about Jimi Hendrix called Room Full Of Mirrors.
Read it. Extremely well reasearched and with over 300 interviews from people who had never previously spoke. Those that wish to believe Hendrix was a peaceful man shouldn't read any books about him. | |
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I never read no bios... That would made me a fanatic! [Edited 10/11/06 2:59am] | |
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mikek1 said: Harlepolis said: He gave Nona's mother hell(Janis, I think thats her name) abusing her verbally. At the end of his life, he used to beat women publicly. God rest his soul though. why is this trait always common in the best artists? It's disheartening to know. I mean lennon, icke, biggie, axl rose, john bonham, keith moon, hendrix, james brown, mingus, davis ; DAMN! omg John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix used to beat women? | |
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I've read a few...
Gene Simmons "Kiss and Makeup" is a fantastic book even if you're not a Kiss fan "This Life" (can't remember the Authors ) about Frank Sinatra is awesome - it's a biography that shows both the good and bad sides of him which I think is great. there are others I've read but those two off the top of my head... | |
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Natisse said: mikek1 said: why is this trait always common in the best artists? It's disheartening to know. I mean lennon, icke, biggie, axl rose, john bonham, keith moon, hendrix, james brown, mingus, davis ; DAMN! omg John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix used to beat women? Yes! Especially Hendrix; he was extremely violent. Towards the end of his life lennon was all about peace and he even said he's ashamed he beat his girlfriend in an interview. Jimi was still acting out against women; there is diaries from 1970, after jimi fucked two groupies he got violent banging their heads together while they slept and threw them out while naked. he also sent his gf carmen to the emergency ward on two occasions after smashing glass vodka bottles in her face for no reason; she nearly lost an eye the first time. I know; DISSAPOINTING AND DISTURBING BUT TRUE. | |
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mikek1 said: Natisse said: omg John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix used to beat women? Yes! Especially Hendrix; he was extremely violent. Towards the end of his life lennon was all about peace and he even said he's ashamed he beat his girlfriend in an interview. Jimi was still acting out against women; there is diaries from 1970, after jimi fucked two groupies he got violent banging their heads together while they slept and threw them out while naked. he also sent his gf carmen to the emergency ward on two occasions after smashing glass vodka bottles in her face for no reason; she nearly lost an eye the first time. I know; DISSAPOINTING AND DISTURBING BUT TRUE. very disheartening ...but it's the truth and therefore needs to be known | |
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Natisse said: mikek1 said: Yes! Especially Hendrix; he was extremely violent. Towards the end of his life lennon was all about peace and he even said he's ashamed he beat his girlfriend in an interview. Jimi was still acting out against women; there is diaries from 1970, after jimi fucked two groupies he got violent banging their heads together while they slept and threw them out while naked. he also sent his gf carmen to the emergency ward on two occasions after smashing glass vodka bottles in her face for no reason; she nearly lost an eye the first time. I know; DISSAPOINTING AND DISTURBING BUT TRUE. very disheartening ...but it's the truth and therefore needs to be known Exactly. It seems though people don't want to admit it and get mad if i mention it. Sorry but i'm real and we are talking about bios/autobios. | |
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mikek1 said: Natisse said: very disheartening ...but it's the truth and therefore needs to be known Exactly. It seems though people don't want to admit it and get mad if i mention it. Sorry but i'm real and we are talking about bios/autobios. oh, I agree... my biggest hero is Gene Simmons I worship the guy but I'll also be the first to admit he has his flaws noone is perfect but, again, the truth DOES need to be heard | |
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I read Possesed. Great book.
The Dirt about Motley Crew. A MUST READ!!!! They hold NOTHING back!!! And the Arrow Falls about Morrison. Everybody's lookin 4 the ladder, it's in the garage | |
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LIBRA said: I read Possesed. Great book.
The Dirt about Motley Crew. A MUST READ!!!! They hold NOTHING back!!! And the Arrow Falls about Morrison. those last two I really want to read | |
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mikek1 said: Natisse said: very disheartening ...but it's the truth and therefore needs to be known Exactly. It seems though people don't want to admit it and get mad if i mention it. Sorry but i'm real and we are talking about bios/autobios. But didn't you just say Janis' sexuality was unimportant? That's real, too. "You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride" | |
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shockadelicaa said: mikek1 said: Exactly. It seems though people don't want to admit it and get mad if i mention it. Sorry but i'm real and we are talking about bios/autobios. But didn't you just say Janis' sexuality was unimportant? That's real, too. yes. sexuality doesn't define one's character aas long as it's with consenting adults. Extreme physical abuse is different. | |
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