Well after a few days of talking about Sean and his new release and the upcoming Bealtes LOVE project, it made me think of Julian again who has been away from music since 2000, he has been doing little things here and there, but his last release was 1998's Photograph Smile. He did recently write a very nice note on his site about the LOVE project, saying that he did see it and enjoyed what was done with the Beatles/Johns work, believe it or not he has a deep interest in just what is done with what is left. Julian i do know was sort of against the new material the surviving Beatles did for the Anthology and for releases of un-released material of his dads, and you really cant blame him for that, its beyond money because he has been screwed out of that along time ago. But i think what alot of people dont realize are the deep issues that John and Julian had, on the day Lennon died he spoke of Julian and talking how didnt want to screw up Sean like he screwed up Julian, i think Julian is often looked at as an accident a child that maybe he didnt want at the time, and i think that is how Yoko looked upon him too. Another very interesting thing Julian said of his dad, he said "He always sang about LOVE, but i never saw or was priveleged to share that Love", he didnt dislike his father, he just felt there was alot of unknown things about John. I can only "imagine" how hard it was/is for Julian to hear of your dad as being of Love and Peace and yet thats not the person you really knew and were given the chance to know. Another quick note, i think its a crime that Julian goes to auctions and BUYS his dads stuff back, because no one gave him anything, sorry but thats his dad too.

Totally the same vibe I get, everything you just described.

I detest Yoko Ono for her revisionist ways. She basically tried to erase Julian with the love child Sean. Julian should be entitled to his fair share of his father's money as heir without having to grub up to that filthy cunt.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

i can't contribute to this thread.

Yes... it's very sad. But I often think that sometimes it's so much easy to talk about "ideals" than it is to live them. John, himself, obviously had issues--all by himself. I just think that's it's unfortunate..for Julian and very sad. My dad was an alcoholic. My dad was "absent," but he still lived in our home, but he was respected by so many people who really didn't know or understand the seriousness of his problems. I went to counseling and finally was able to make peace with the most obvious fact that my dad had problems that prevented him from being "present." I had to forgive him because without being able to for my dad, I couldn't never forgive myself for being "flawed" in other ways as well.I finally realized it wasn't my problem. It had nothing to do with me. It was something beyond my control.

Anyway, I just hope that Julian has found the same peace. In a strange way, his experiences with John helped mold Julian into someone who is empathetic..sensitive. John apparently realized he made a mistake which my dad never even had the chance to come to terms with. Unfortunately though with John, like my Dad, his life was cut too short to "connect" with Julian. It's sad... and tragic. But Julian has the opportunity to learn from all that.

speaking of Julian check out this awesome song he did

http://www.youtube.com/wa...9P8ipj-4sQ

http://www.youtube.com/wa...ed&search=

This happens with a lot of dads who remarry. They try to not make the same mistakes they did the first time. Unfortunately, the first family feels like a mistake.

But Julian's a grown man. If he's bitter & resentful, he needs to move on. I don't resent my dad for the same thing, I understand he married my mom too young and had kids too young, and he's just a human being.

Should he envy Sean who's dad was also killed and had to live alone with Yoko most of his life?

I can relate to Julian, but he's lived a fairly priviledged life, when all's said & done.

NDRU said:

I dont think Julian has any resentment towards his dad at all. I just think he was joint pointing out the truth that we sometimes forget. John who was made to be this "peace and Love" type of person didnt really take that path in his own life, at least is early life. I think Julian was just saying his dad was human and had many faults too. He also has a godd relation with sean, its Yoko thats an issue. As far as priviledges, sure he aint hurtin for money and never will be, his point was what is being done with certain works of his dad. It should also be known that Julian got nothing from his dad, that money was kept and then allocated by a settlement by Yoko so she dictated what was done with certain things. I think any of us in his shoes would not look to kindly on yoko if she was selling off items of our dead father when all we wanted was to Treasure it and not sell it.

lastdecember said:

yeah, I could definitely see where he could be upset. I guess I just see it as a family problem--something lots of folks have.

It's unfortunate that John wasn't a better father to him, and he probably didn't adequately prepare his will.

NDRU said:

Yeah Julian is a good guy and Yoko has done things to just make him feel like he isnt part of John. It must have also been an issue because early on when Julian was born it wasnt allowed to be discussed niether was his marriage, due to the whole Beatlemania thing early on, they wanted John to appear as a single man, so the girls would still come to shows. Its just a very awkward thing, I think the way John constructed his will, was to almost ignore his first marriage which meant Julian didnt get much, i think the most awkward thing would be that Julian feels like an outsider, i think he always wanted to know John and was never given the chance and then when they did reunite, john was murdered soon after, so I think Julian feels anything like paintings,recordings,books would better introduce him to his father, as opposed to being sold off at auctions. And the worst part is, that Julian buys these things at Auctions with Money that was given to him from his father?? crazy!

lastdecember said:

Weird, I never heard about him buying stuff at auctions. And you can just imagine how John was as a father in 1964-1967. Talk about absent.

NDRU said:

Yeah the auctions thing i heard about when Julian was on the Jay Leno show back in 1999, Jay brought it up and then Julian said "i think its ironic that i should buy my fathers things back with his own money", but like he said "thats the settlement i was given by her Highness"