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PrintableIt's my understanding that most of the Idlewild tracks were leftovers from Speakerbox. Music.............is the THANG! | |
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NDRU said: Sdldawn said: well.. yes. That is true I've felt that about his singing since "The Whole World." He's way off key in the beginning. But he's really creative nonetheless. see, Thats the thing.. to me, its a fork in the middle of the road. I want to give the man credit, because he really does have good songs inside him, and with the right song, key, and people backing him.. he could do brilliant work. but there's a point in a career when something works, and it seems like he is so freebased with his ideas, he is letting it come out in all different directions.. sometimes having structure towards the ideas gives it a better ground to stand on.. in the long run.. I'm not saying limit the creativity, by no means am I saying that.. I am all about different, new, and moving forward.. but just because Andre loves a certian style of music, doesn't exactly mean he could perform it to the same grade a quality he is inspired by.. thats not how it works. Find your sound, find what works, and carve your ideas from that rock.. dunno, thats how i feel about it. [Edited 10/5/06 16:39pm] | |
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Sdldawn said: NDRU said: I've felt that about his singing since "The Whole World." He's way off key in the beginning. But he's really creative nonetheless. see, Thats the thing.. to me, its a fork in the middle of the road. I want to give the man credit, because he really does have good songs inside him, and with the right song, key, and people backing him.. he could do brilliant work. but there's a point in a career when something works, and it seems like he is so freebased with his ideas, he is letting it come out in all different directions.. sometimes having structure towards the ideas gives it a better ground to stand on.. in the long run.. I'm not saying limit the creativity, by no means am I saying that.. I am all about different, new, and moving forward.. but just because Andre loves a certian style of music, doesn't exactly mean he could perform it to the same grade a quality he is inspired by.. thats not how it works. Find your sound, find what works, and carve your ideas from that rock.. dunno, thats how i feel about it. [Edited 10/5/06 16:39pm] He could get in trouble the way people are looking at him like he's a musical genius. In a way he is, but like you say, he still needs help with it. My Legacy
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NDRU said: Sdldawn said: see, Thats the thing.. to me, its a fork in the middle of the road. I want to give the man credit, because he really does have good songs inside him, and with the right song, key, and people backing him.. he could do brilliant work. but there's a point in a career when something works, and it seems like he is so freebased with his ideas, he is letting it come out in all different directions.. sometimes having structure towards the ideas gives it a better ground to stand on.. in the long run.. I'm not saying limit the creativity, by no means am I saying that.. I am all about different, new, and moving forward.. but just because Andre loves a certian style of music, doesn't exactly mean he could perform it to the same grade a quality he is inspired by.. thats not how it works. Find your sound, find what works, and carve your ideas from that rock.. dunno, thats how i feel about it. [Edited 10/5/06 16:39pm] He could get in trouble the way people are looking at him like he's a musical genius. In a way he is, but like you say, he still needs help with it. would you say that 3000's singing is more funk? you know the george clinton I can sing but not sing drunk and high funk kind of singing? | |
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CoolMF said: sallysassalot said: i quite liked idlewild (the cd). while its not as pop-catchy as its predecessor, its a hot f'n cd! the difference in sales is just typical of a finicky american audience and the trends the industry encourages.
I hate when people blame flops on "finicky audiences" or "finicky fans". The O'Jays once said "you gotta give the people what they want". If no one's buying the cd, it's not because of lack of promotion or a fickle audience or label politics- Outkast's album isn't selling because people don't want to pay money for what Outkast is offering. The same can be applied to every other artist (especially Prince) that's past their peak. In Outkast's case, Andre's singing songs are all over the place and extremely experimental. After Speakerboxx, fans would rather buy an album that has both members rapping than a bunch of Big Boi songs. Catchy beats and hooks are popular right now and Outkast stopped doing that after Stankonia. You can't blame fans for not liking what an artist puts out. Blame the artist for not putting out a product that fans will buy and recommend! whoa, simmer down now. 
i'm with you. i think if recording artists seek sales then they have to give the masses what the masses want. if, however, a recording artist wants to make something that is different from what the masses can get from anyone else, they have to hope the audience will stick with them and not jump to the next "it" performer. and let's not degrade the media factor. if mtv, vh1, and OutKast's label chose to support this record it would have sold. period. the industry, unfortunately, has become just as finicky as the mainstream consumer and has no interest in nurturing their work-for-hire artists. this is perhaps because there is more money in it for the big label to reap from a flop than a few continued successes...but i digress. [Edited 10/5/06 18:34pm] | |
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GangstaFam said: The fact that I consider myself a big fan and I still haven't purchased this CD is surprising to me.
Man I thought I was the only one. For some reason I have no desire to pick up this CD right now. I'm sure it's good maybe great but I just don't want it right now. That's quite strange to me. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Meloh9 said: NDRU said: He could get in trouble the way people are looking at him like he's a musical genius. In a way he is, but like you say, he still needs help with it. would you say that 3000's singing is more funk? you know the george clinton I can sing but not sing drunk and high funk kind of singing? Kind of, yeah. He's good at singing the hooks to hip hop, but I'm not sure he's a good straight singer. I think George is better, but George isn't a rapper (tho he's close to one). My Legacy
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I went and saw the movie expecting there to be songs from the soundtrack IN the movie! But all the songs were from SB/TLB! WTF!? I haven't caught the soundtrack, but I think it might have sold better if it had actually HAD some of the songs from the soundtrack IN the actual movie. | |
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