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LUDACRIS #1 JANET#2

W TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 LUDACRIS DEF JAM SOUTH/IDJMG 314,060 --
RELEASE THERAPY
-- 2 JANET JACKSON VIRGIN 300,793 --
20 Y.O.
-- 3 TONY BENNETT RPM RECORDS/COLUMBIA 200,425 --
DUETS: AN AMERICAN CLASSIC
1 4 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE JIVE/ZLG 149,546 -35%
FUTURE SEX/LOVE SOUNDS
-- 5 ALAN JACKSON SBMG NASHVILLE/ARISTA 145,054 --
LIKE RED ON A ROSE
5 6 JOHN MAYER AWARE/COLUMBIA/CRG 96,260 -32%
CONTINUUM
2 7 CLAY AIKEN RCA/RMG 80,381 -61%
A THOUSAND DIFFERENT WAYS
10 8 HINDER UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 78,594 +10%
EXTREME BEHAVIOR
-- 9 WEIRD AL YANKOVIC VOLCANO/ZOMBA 73,148 --
STRAIGHT OUT OF LYNWOOD
3 10 FERGIE A&M/INTERSCOPE 72,102 -55%
THE DUTCHESS
7 11 BEYONCE COLUMBIA/CRG 61,228 -29%
B'DAY
11 12 BOB SEGER CAPITOL 53,628 -22%
FACE THE PROMISE
13 13 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER/IDJMG 53,242 -3%
ALL THE RIGHT REASONS
12 14 BOB DYLAN COLUMBIA/CRG 50,857 -18%
MODERN TIMES
6 15 DIANA KRALL VERVE 47,964 -48%
FROM THIS MOMENT ON
14 16 THE FRAY EPIC 46,555 -13%
HOW TO SAVE A LIFE
4 17 KENNY CHESNEY SBMG NASHVILLE/BNA 43,645 -69%
LIVE THOSE SONGS AGAIN
18 18 CHEETAH GIRLS 2 WALT DISNEY RECORDS 43,332 +3%
SOUNDTRACK
-- 19 SCISSOR SISTERS UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 40,359 --
TA-DAH
16 20 DANITY KANE BAD BOY/ATLANTIC/ATL G 38,079 -23%
DANITY KANE
8 21 LUPE FIASCO ATLANTIC/ATL G 36,617 -57%
LUPE FIASCO'S FOOD & LIQUOR
-- 22 SAOSIN CAPITOL 35,195 --
SAOSIN
20 23 GREY'S ANATOMY VOL.2 HOLLYWOOD 33,447 -15%
SOUNDTRACK
26 24 RICK ROSS DEF JAM/IDJMG 32,736 +10%
PORT OF MIAMI
9 25 CHINGY CAPITOL 32,696 -56%
HOODSTAR
-- 26 JERRY LEE LEWIS ARTIST FIRST 32,436 --
LAST MAN STANDING
25 27 LIONEL RICHIE ISLAND/IDJMG 32,084 0%
COMING HOME
-- 28 VANESSA HUDGENS HOLLYWOOD 32,053 --
V
22 29 RASCAL FLATTS LYRIC STREET 31,992 -10%
ME AND MY GANG
29 30 SNOW PATROL A&M/INTERSCOPE 31,756 +14%
EYES OPEN
23 31 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA/RMG 31,248 -7%
BACK TO BASICS
28 32 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 29,591 +6%
SOME HEARTS
27 33 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC V22 SONY MUSIC GROUP 27,532 -7%
VARIOUS
-- 34 LUNY TUNES & TAIN MACHETE MUSIC 27,406 --
LOS BENJAMINS
24 35 AUDIOSLAVE EPIC/INTERSCOPE 26,429 -19%
REVELATIONS
31 36 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 25,966 0%
YOUR MAN
32 37 PUSSYCAT DOLLS A&M/INTERSCOPE 23,102 -9%
PCD
17 38 ELTON JOHN ROCKET/UNIVERSAL 22,551 -53%
THE CAPTAIN & THE KID
42 39 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL WALT DISNEY RECORDS 20,832 +5%
SOUNDTRACK
41 40 BLUE OCTOBER UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 20,561 +3%
FOILED
36 41 PANIC! AT THE DISCO FUELED BY RAMEN/WMG 20,464 -14%
A FEVER YOU CAN'T SWEAT OUT
38 42 RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS WARNER BROS. 20,444 -9%
STADIUM ARCADIUM
35 43 GNARLS BARKLEY DOWNTOWN/ATLANTIC ATL G 20,193 -17%
ST. ELSEWHERE
33 44 YOUNG DRO GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC 18,976 -23%
THE BEST THANG SMOKIN'
-- 45 BONEY JAMES CONCORD JAZZ 18,913 --
SHINE
15 46 JESSE MCCARTNEY HOLLYWOOD 17,455 -67%
RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT ME
44 47 YUNG JOC BAD BOY/ATLANTIC/ATL G 17,305 -7%
NEW JOC CITY
46 48 NELLY FURTADO GEFFEN 16,743 -5%
LOOSE
45 49 CHERISH SHO'NUFF/CAPITOL 16,741 -8%
UNAPPRECIATED
47 50 LYFE JENNINGS SONY URBAN/COLUMBIA/CRG 16,077 -4%
THE PHOENIX
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Reply #1 posted 10/03/06 2:36pm

Rhondab

dang sad

but damn...Justin drops to 4th...woot!
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Reply #2 posted 10/03/06 2:38pm

JackieBlue

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Beyonce's out of the Top Ten? Albums fall fast these days.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #3 posted 10/03/06 2:39pm

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WOW Weird Al at #9 cool.
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #4 posted 10/03/06 2:44pm

MikeMatronik

Poor janet sad
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Reply #5 posted 10/03/06 2:49pm

jayaredee

MikeMatronik said:

Poor janet sad


How could this be happening to the queen of pop?

sad
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Reply #6 posted 10/03/06 2:49pm

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Rhondab said:

dang sad

but damn...Justin drops to 4th...woot!


Yeah, THAT makes it a failure lol
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Reply #7 posted 10/03/06 2:57pm

MikeMatronik

jayaredee said:

MikeMatronik said:

Poor janet sad


How could this be happening to the queen of pop?

sad


Blasphemy...there's only one queen of pop:

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Reply #8 posted 10/03/06 2:57pm

MikeMatronik

EverlastingNow said:

Rhondab said:

dang sad

but damn...Justin drops to 4th...woot!


Yeah, THAT makes it a failure lol


lol

Ur so funny...but so correct! lol
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Reply #9 posted 10/03/06 2:59pm

dancerella

lazycrockett said:

WOW Weird Al at #9 cool.



Weird Al beat Beyonce! Go Weird Al!!
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Reply #10 posted 10/03/06 3:04pm

jayaredee

dancerella said:

lazycrockett said:

WOW Weird Al at #9 cool.



Weird Al beat Beyonce! Go Weird Al!!

lol
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Reply #11 posted 10/03/06 3:04pm

jayaredee

MikeMatronik said:

jayaredee said:



How could this be happening to the queen of pop?

sad


Blasphemy...there's only one queen of pop:



So classy and sexy. Can she ever be topped?
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Reply #12 posted 10/03/06 3:06pm

Tessa

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MikeMatronik said:

jayaredee said:



How could this be happening to the queen of pop?

sad


Blasphemy...there's only one queen of pop:



that's right, you "rude, vile pigs"

"I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you."
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Reply #13 posted 10/03/06 4:36pm

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I just think there is too much emphasis put on debuts these days, i mean JD's ramblings the last few days on websites, are borderline what Mariah Carey was ranting about when Glitter came out, talking about sabotage and things like that. OK if you dont like labels, then walk away and put things out on yur own, I hate when artists talk it, but dont walk it, at least Prince walked away from the label thing, though he does things on and off for them, its all his game now. The emphasis that is put on debuts and things like that is why we get this "HYPE" and then no delivery and then let down. I think of all the albums i have bought this year and enjoyed and 90% of them werent "chart toppers or even close", but i think that made me enjoy it more, i wasnt HYPED into this whole train of thought. It used to be you watched a record climb the chart, or just make the chart, now a days its all about week 1 and the fall, and how much your not selling. Till the industry starts to rethink its thought process,nothing will change. There are so many records that sell consistently that we dont even hear about, some that dont even chart.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #14 posted 10/03/06 4:47pm

ABeautifulOne

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So mcuh for Luda's label selling his cd for $5...
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Reply #15 posted 10/03/06 5:17pm

sallysassalot

is all for you the only janet record to debut at #1 or did 1814 and janet. debut there as well?

i guess this is kinda sucky for her big comeback, huh? outdone by ludacris? i wonder if she'll fall off the top five next week?
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Reply #16 posted 10/03/06 5:20pm

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EverlastingNow said:

Rhondab said:

dang sad

but damn...Justin drops to 4th...woot!


Yeah, THAT makes it a failure lol


It was a natural progression with three new anticipated albums. The true success of an album is it's progress over time. Justin will last longer in the top ten than Janet.
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Reply #17 posted 10/03/06 5:23pm

Scorpion

She's not doing any better worldwide either:

UK: 3000, #63
IRELAND: failed to chart (less than 750 copies)
AUSTRALIA: failed to chart (less than 1000 copies)
JAPAN: 12,000


Honestly, I was expecting something bigger than that. With like 6 different versions of the cd released & loads of fans buying all versions & the big Oprah appearance. I'm scared to think what she would've done without that. eek This is even less sold than "Damita Jo".
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tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #18 posted 10/03/06 5:24pm

sallysassalot

Scorpion said:

She's not doing any better worldwide either:

UK: 3000, #63
IRELAND: failed to chart (less than 750 copies)
AUSTRALIA: failed to chart (less than 1000 copies)
JAPAN: 12,000


Honestly, I was expecting something bigger than that. With like 6 different versions of the cd released & loads of fans buying all versions & the big Oprah appearance. I'm scared to think what she would've done without that. eek

i thought she was huge in japan?
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Reply #19 posted 10/03/06 5:36pm

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Scorpion said:

She's not doing any better worldwide either:

UK: 3000, #63
IRELAND: failed to chart (less than 750 copies)
AUSTRALIA: failed to chart (less than 1000 copies)
JAPAN: 12,000


Honestly, I was expecting something bigger than that. With like 6 different versions of the cd released & loads of fans buying all versions & the big Oprah appearance. I'm scared to think what she would've done without that. eek This is even less sold than "Damita Jo".
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WRONG, She has the # 1 album in JAPAN! They are loyal..

I don't believe this cuz i bought multiple copies in CANADA/US.. I will wait till Billboard announces the final results..
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Reply #20 posted 10/03/06 5:42pm

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314k vs. 301k


very close....you might want to wait and see Soundscans numbers tomorrow . They MAY be flip flopped.


..or not
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Reply #21 posted 10/03/06 5:58pm

murph

Scorpion said:

She's not doing any better worldwide either:

UK: 3000, #63
IRELAND: failed to chart (less than 750 copies)
AUSTRALIA: failed to chart (less than 1000 copies)
JAPAN: 12,000


Honestly, I was expecting something bigger than that. With like 6 different versions of the cd released & loads of fans buying all versions & the big Oprah appearance. I'm scared to think what she would've done without that. eek This is even less sold than "Damita Jo".
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Um, I don't know what SoundScan chart you guys have been watching??? By no means is this a top notch Janet Jackson album, but the fact that all of the no 1 debuts this year (with the exception of Timberlake, Beyonce and Christina Agullera) have been averaging anywhere from 100, 000 to 150, 000 has to be looked at...That chick did over 300, 000 her first week with hardly any radio presence and MTV...Those numbers would usually get you the no. 1 slot...The shit more than exceeded expectations (shit, I thought it was going to sell under 200, 000 before the Oprah show) As far as Ludacris, I think the folks "shocked" about the man being no. 1 need to check the past stats...His last two albums were massive first week sellers...It's 2006 people...wake up and do your homework folks....
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Reply #22 posted 10/03/06 5:58pm

sallysassalot

isthisdadawn said:



WRONG, She has the # 1 album in JAPAN! They are loyal..

I don't believe this cuz i bought multiple copies in CANADA/US.. I will wait till Billboard announces the final results..

define this word "loyal" please.
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Reply #23 posted 10/03/06 6:19pm

asg

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sallysassalot said:

isthisdadawn said:



WRONG, She has the # 1 album in JAPAN! They are loyal..

I don't believe this cuz i bought multiple copies in CANADA/US.. I will wait till Billboard announces the final results..

define this word "loyal" please.


anyone who bought 6 versions is pretty loyal i should think
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Reply #24 posted 10/03/06 6:23pm

sallysassalot

asg said:

sallysassalot said:


define this word "loyal" please.


anyone who bought 6 versions is pretty loyal i should think

well, i mean does loyal mean you buy the cd even if you don't like it or does loyal mean if you like it you don't download it illegally or what? the cd is far from her best work and it isn't disloyal for a fan who doesn't care for it to refrain from buying it.

shit, if we wanna talk about loyalty...how about janet showing some loyalty to her career long fanbase?
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Reply #25 posted 10/03/06 6:53pm

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sallysassalot said:

is all for you the only janet record to debut at #1 or did 1814 and janet. debut there as well?

i guess this is kinda sucky for her big comeback, huh? outdone by ludacris? i wonder if she'll fall off the top five next week?



I'm pretty sure janet, The Velvet Rope, and All For You debuted at #1. RN1814 was pre-Soundscan, and #1 debuts were much harder to come by at the time, so I'm assuming it climbed to the top spot.


As far as "loyalty" is concerned, I'm a long-time Janet fan and I debated over whether or not to even spend my $10 on the CD. I caved and bought it, but it had more to do with liking a few cuts from the cd and wanting to complete my collection than from any misguided ideas about loyalty. I almost don't want Janet to hit #1 just so she knows that many members of her fanbase are turned off by her new direction. Hopefully her next album will be more Control - Velvet Rope caliber.
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ABeautifulOne said:

So mcuh for Luda's label selling his cd for $5...


Hmm? That sucks, but it shows what happens when MTV kisses your ass and treats you like a king (Luda) and treats ignores you and treats you like trash (Janet)...shockingly, not that much difference, but with at least some MTV support, Janet would've beeen number one! But it's not the end of the world. The album has a lot of potentail, if Virgin keeps it up. Good, the album charts are terrible. Those opening numbers are below DJ.
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Reply #27 posted 10/03/06 7:44pm

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Axchi696 said:

sallysassalot said:

is all for you the only janet record to debut at #1 or did 1814 and janet. debut there as well?

i guess this is kinda sucky for her big comeback, huh? outdone by ludacris? i wonder if she'll fall off the top five next week?



I'm pretty sure janet, The Velvet Rope, and All For You debuted at #1. RN1814 was pre-Soundscan, and #1 debuts were much harder to come by at the time, so I'm assuming it climbed to the top spot.


As far as "loyalty" is concerned, I'm a long-time Janet fan and I debated over whether or not to even spend my $10 on the CD. I caved and bought it, but it had more to do with liking a few cuts from the cd and wanting to complete my collection than from any misguided ideas about loyalty. I almost don't want Janet to hit #1 just so she knows that many members of her fanbase are turned off by her new direction. Hopefully her next album will be more Control - Velvet Rope caliber.


I believe that "janet" might be the first album in Soundscan/album chart history to debut at number one...Might be wrong.
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Reply #28 posted 10/03/06 7:53pm

Isel

I decided not to care about the debut. I would have loved if Janet had reached #1, but it wasn't meant to be.

I just hope she's not discouraged. I hope that she still continues her plans for a tour even IF the cd is not the best-selling of all time.

I really sort of like the direction of her 20 Y.O.--particularly the last half. I really think that this is a transition, and if Janet decides to give it another go, she might surprise a lot of people.
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Reply #29 posted 10/03/06 9:25pm

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VinnyM27 said:
ABeautifulOne said:
So mcuh for Luda's label selling his cd for $5...


Hmm? That sucks, but it shows what happens when MTV kisses your ass and treats you like a king (Luda) and treats ignores you and treats you like trash (Janet)...shockingly, not that much difference, but with at least some MTV support, Janet would've beeen number one! But it's not the end of the world. The album has a lot of potentail, if Virgin keeps it up. Good, the album charts are terrible. Those opening numbers are below DJ.


I wouldn't necessarily blame the lack of support from MTV for Janet's current album sales. MTV may have helped Ludacris, Justin and Christina, but they also kissed Jessica Simpson's ass so much that they got a dirty Sanchez; yet their ass-kissing didn't do anything for her album.

I think you have to remember that these album debuts were very much in line to what was going on 10 to 15 years ago. If a superstar sold 300,000 copies their first week, they had a phenomenally successful album debut. The super-inflated first week album sales of 800,000+ copies didn't begin happening until 1999. and that even ended for the most part by 2002. What should be more disturbing to the record companies and so-called superstars is the precipitous drop in album sales after the first week. Granted, if an album sold 750,000 copies the first week, it wasn't uncommon for the next week's sales to drop off by 40%, but the declines would soon level off into the 5 to 10 percent range in subsequent weeks. These days, however, the sales are dropping 50%, 35%, and 25%, which means that todays albums are being discarded at an alarmingly rapid rate.

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