It's just so amusing to see how she's totally dropped off the radar here. It's not like she's never been successful here so it's fun to think up reasons

[see http://www.prince.org/msg/8/203703 -sos]

Now now Ellie, are you trying to stir things up

That being said, this is shocking. Janet's comeback charted worse than Damita Jo.

janet is hated in the UK for some reason. she always gets bad press there. tellingly they still refer to her in the press as the "that's the way love goes" singer.

I think Together Again was pretty big for Janet in the UK if i'm not mistaken.

Does she even have much of a fanbase in the UK. I really can't see any of Janet's new music appealing to the European market.

The gays in the UK love another Jackson:

LA TOYA

Shit, that's bad.

And let me guess, her "finished" brother's next album will debut at #1.

Cloudbuster said:

yep...straight people in the UK love MJ!

Janet needs to tend to her gay fanbase more,Latoya seems to be hogging the gays lately
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jayaredee said:

Toy just wanna's dance!

*still waits for my startin' over! *

MikeMatronik said:

I'm getting to it right now. I promise this time

FYI i accidentally uploaded 20 Y.O before.
[Edited 10/1/06 14:14pm]

jayaredee said:

S H O ME!

Ummm, Mike I'm sorry but it seems I only have 4 of the original songs from Starting Over for some reason. I must have deleted the rest, i don't remember when.

Oh i'm a failure toy toy fan. I have to find another link. I won't give up.

jayaredee said:

It's sabotage from Toy Toy late husband/manager/pimp jack gordon!

I kept the most worthless songs too.... Anger Management, Mafia Style and Free the World (remix)

jayaredee said:

The remix for Free the world is so cheesy1

Well I've seen an existing UK group of Janet fans when a friend invited me to one of their London get togethers, and only a couple of them overlapped as Michael fans too. Granted, it was in a gay bar!

It's just that with the Janet album it was like she finally broke through, and The Velvet Rope singles did really well - although Janet fans do like to talk-up the success of Together Again as some sort of triumph for a large selling non-#1 despite the fact that there were 2 other solo female non-#1 singles in the Top 10 at the exact same time to sell more. Twas just a high selling year in general

jayaredee said:

MikeMatronik said:

The original song is cheesy enough.

badujunkie said:

That's pretty much totally wrong. She doesn't get much press at all and when she does it's rarely negative, just mentions for what she's doing if she's in town.

badujunkie said:

well that is her biggest hit.....

what is this crap about? Janet is not hated in the UK. Or WAS not hated in the UK

Before SB she was successful and the AFY ablum peaked at #2 with DRM at #5, AFY #3, STCML #11 and SOAG #13. Not great, but certainly not a failure.

But it seems that the SB backlash has been felt across Europe with radio station ignoring her singles. You can say COM is not good but "all nite" deserved to be a success. However since SB ALL THE SINGLES RELEASED HAVE BEEN TOP 20 HITS. I'm afraid to say thats a hell alot better than Prince's singles lately yes even with the BRIT performance.

And there is no point comparing Janet to Madonna in Europe. She can release a piece of turd and it would get to #1 ahem "american pie", "american life"....

So you know some people like to make Janet's UK stats look worse then they really are. I'd like to add that she is in the list of 100 most sucessful artists in the UK just a few spots behind legends such as Geroge Michael and Mariah Carey.

I'm in the UK and i know there are plenty of Janet fans who do not overlap as Michael fans either. In fact Janet is hated amongst Michael's UK fans.

Can I just say that in Europe there is NO Superbowl backlash. The whole thing here lasted perhaps 2 days with us all laughing hysterically at the over-reaction in the US media. It had sod all to do with Janet herself.
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mancabdriver said:

Ellie, ahem.....

mancabdriver said:

Meh, not really true. I've been to loads of MJ fan gatherings, and although most of the time I sit in the corner with my friends laughing at the freaks, we do talk to a lot of them. Most of them either like Janet or if not, just don't have an opinion. Lots of them are still hating on LaToya for some reason.

Oh, and the George Michael/Mariah Carey comparison - George Michael just isn't prolific so can't clock up chart stats too often. Mariah Carey is on the same level as Janet, i.e. huge in the US, just semi-successful here.
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mancabdriver said:

Most likely over the face she's been ratting out her family, especially Michael for years making it her career pracitcally

Ellie said:

I don't believe it. Janet had major airplay in the UK with AFY, more than Mariah and Michael. But all of a sudden it stopped after SB. I remember hearing "Just a little while" on the radio frequently before and just after SB then all of a sudden it was gone at the same time as it was slipping from the billboard charts. I don't know if it was a conscious decsion to stop playing Janet but SB did have some sort of effect on janet's success across the world. You being British should know how much of the rest of the world are like sheep following American music trends.

mancabdriver said:

What trends? America doesn't play any variety on their radio stations like the UK does, which is why Madonna was able to do well in the UK and meh in the US.
America isn't starting any trends at the moment, they're stuck at a dead end repeating the same shit they've been doing since the new millenium.

Janet's new album is following the American trends, which the UK hasn't been picking up on.
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I seriously think the airplay think has to do with the shit records she's releasing and not the SB. Or maybe the oft talked about cancelled European tour after 9/11 due to the cited reason of air-security issues but STILL playing Hawaii and Japan. Tonnes of people were well annoyed with her after that.

jayaredee said:

Oh shes a Michael fan? OK that explains alot.