it looks like Outkast's album Idlewild will be a huge bomb saleswise
after selling a trillion copies of speakerboxx/the love below it looks like Idlewild may not even reach 400.000 copies

whats the reason for the poor outing this time?

probably crap music..


or being a soundtrack

either one, is pretty accurate

i quite liked idlewild (the cd). while its not as pop-catchy as its predecessor, its a hot f'n cd! the difference in sales is just typical of a finicky american audience and the trends the industry encourages.

i think the album wasn't bad, but compared to Speakerboxx/The Love Below, it sounds rushed.

I prefer to listen to Speakerboxx/The Love Below...

It didn't have a pop single like "Hey Ya", and it wasn't a double album.

That should explain the difference in sales figures

Although it was a good album and all, it still wasn't worth the wait because it did sound kinda rushed. I don't really think the album has gotten the proper promotional duties like their last albums had recieved, so that can be one of the major reasons of why this album isn't doing much commercially. Unlike their last couple of albums such as Speakerboxxx/TLB and Stankonia, there is really no mainstream-sounding material on this album, which can have a lot of fans who jumped on the Speakerboxxx/TLB bandwagon plain dumbfounded too.
[Edited 10/4/06 20:28pm]

Sdldawn said:

No. No. No.

It's no Speakerboxx and certainly no Stankonia, but it's nothing like crap music. Blows me away that you can jizz over John Mayer and not at least see the beauty of a track like "Hollywood Divorce"
[Edited 10/4/06 20:48pm]

They didn't put out a big catchy sing-along single

and the 2 singles that came out, got no play on the radio
(atleast compared to Hey Ya, Ms. Jackson, Fresh and Clean, Roses etc.)

MendesCity said:

I dug this when it first leaked.. now the more I hear it.. the more its sounds rushed to me.
[Edited 10/4/06 21:06pm]

oh, and Andre did a great job on vocals with love below.. but this guy CANT sing.. period.


PJ and Rooster was about as much singing as he can do. He needs to stick to his range, or limit. Not hit every note with that untrained voice of his.. geez.

Album has been certified platinum from what i heard; how is that a flop?

mikek1 said:

where did u hear that? the offical number as of yesterday is
57 OUTKAST IDLEWILD 15,604 -21 19,818 389,793 <-----

Sdldawn said:

Eh, I'm with you on all that. He's singing too much, and it does sound rushed, but it's still more interesting music than 99% of what charts these days.

I love the album and the fact that it won't be on the radio makes me even happier.

Mazerati said:

http://www.billboard.com/...0&g=Albums


Yes, According to Billboard its been certified platinum by the RIAA. meaning it has shipped 1 million copies.

Yes, according to Soundscan it has sold about 390,000.

So I guess this means there are tons of copies sittin on record store shelves. This system is screwy.

The album isn't bad at all. It won't make my top ten of the year, but I think it's still worth having. There are some interesting experiments on there.

Could 'Idlewild' be Outkast's 'Around The World In A Day'?

I blame bootleggers.
Err'yone I know had it on their hard-drives a month b4 it was ever on the dusty shelves...

MendesCity said:

well.. yes. That is true

mochalox said:

I disagree...

The album is crap compared to The Love Below/Speakerboxxx

With The Love Below they became mainstream pop...now kids only like emo!
[Edited 10/5/06 9:42am]

CinisterCee said:

PJ & Rooster should have been the single. It's not as pop as Hey Ya but it has the energy and playfulness to match it.

It's not bad but a bit of a thematic terror (cough Christina Agerlia cough). Also, sadly, the movie didn't do well (I think it was only released very limitedly). I'm sure it will be shrugged off because it's a soundtrack.

newpower99 said:

I noticed that they shipped hellvu a lot (and probably honestly expected it to sell).

The fact that I consider myself a big fan and I still haven't purchased this CD is surprising to me.

GangstaFam said:

Have you been purchasing other stuff? You didn't get new Janet either?

CinisterCee said:

Not a lot. Just the Tori box.

But no, I haven't gotten the new Janet either. But it's not cuz I didn't want it. I looked around town and they didn't have the main album cover, just all the fanmade ones. And I hate those. So I'm holding out for the real thing.

sallysassalot said:

I hate when people blame flops on "finicky audiences" or "finicky fans". The O'Jays once said "you gotta give the people what they want". If no one's buying the cd, it's not because of lack of promotion or a fickle audience or label politics- Outkast's album isn't selling because people don't want to pay money for what Outkast is offering. The same can be applied to every other artist (especially Prince) that's past their peak. In Outkast's case, Andre's singing songs are all over the place and extremely experimental. After Speakerboxx, fans would rather buy an album that has both members rapping than a bunch of Big Boi songs. Catchy beats and hooks are popular right now and Outkast stopped doing that after Stankonia.

You can't blame fans for not liking what an artist puts out. Blame the artist for not putting out a product that fans will buy and recommend!

never dug them dudes .....!!! I'll listen to paliament and Prince thank you..

GangstaFam said:

I can understand. Even though I love Janet and all, it's been another uninpiring year in releases in general (and even this 4th quarter doesn't look all that hot!). It's almost nothing even worth going out there and buying new releases anymore...

Sdldawn said:

I've felt that about his singing since "The Whole World." He's way off key in the beginning.

But he's really creative nonetheless.