vainandy said:

"Love TKO" is hot.

How does Jeffrey Osborne compare with LTD?

That's solo. I like that one too as well as "Don't Let Go" from the same album. Another solo one I like is "Invasion" from his 1983 album, "Woman Out Of Control". Still for me, nothing beats that Raydio stuff though.

I didn't care for much of his solo stuff at all. I like "Baby Stay With Me Tonight" and that's about it. I didn't like it enough to buy it though.

sextonseven said:

I think with LTD, he was great..


Other than his brother, Billy

and some baled-headed brotha' name Onion Miller

who knew the rest of em'??

I agree with this thread to an extent. However; guys like lionel and
babyface were just too talented as songwriters and producers to be
held back. Same goes for jeffery osborne. I think what happened in
the 80's a lot of lead singers left their bands because the music
landscape changed and they saw it as opportunity to make money. It
worked for some lead singers and others like mary davis of the s.o.s band,
skip martin of the dazz band,and tawatha agee of mtume it just did not
work. You had lead singers of pop or rock bands in the 80's like
mick jagger, darryl hall,and phil collins who would do their solo
project on the side but they would always remain loyal to their band.

Bobby Brown (and BBD) was better without New Edition, but that ain't saying much.

funkpill said:

Onion Miller.

I barely remember reading the back of their album
covers and reading his name. Yeah LTD joints were
definitely better than jeffrey's solo stuff.
Favorite LTD jams were love ballad,back in love again,
party hearty, we both deserve each other's love, jam,
and concentrate on you.

when we party we party hearty
when we boogie we boogie boogie

I like Bobby Brown and BBD's work better than New Edition's work once they got with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis as producers. My favorite New Edition is the first album that Maurice Starr produced. The second one with "Cool It Now" was alright but I hated the album that was produced by Jam and Lewis. That was kind of the mellow side of Jam and Lewis (which I didn't like) like a lot of Alexander O'Neil's songs. If Jam and Lewis had given them a hardcore jam like "Innocent", I would have loved it.
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I love a lot of LTD's stuff but actually my favorite jam of their's is after Jeffrey Osborne left the group....."Kickin' Back". That jam is a pure ass shaker!

vainandy said:

Agree, kinda. I think the second album is the best. But you know we're in the minority on this forum, right?

And now, speaking of groups who continue recording after one of the main members leave.....The Commodores' "Night Shift" and "Goin' To The Bank" (or whatever the hell that song is called) is far from the days of jams like "Brick House", "Machine Gun", "Too Hot Ta Trot", or "Slippery When Wet".

I have three 45s from that album....

Cool It Now
Mr. Telephone Man
Lost In Love

I've been looking for the album because it contains a jam I love called "My Secret".
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vainandy said:

I love New Edition's 'Candy Girl' album. Didn't care that much for the next three (Under The Blue Moon ). I started listening to them again when Jam & Lewis took over, but I know what you mean about them not being as funky producing New Edition. They admitted it themselves saying they were purposely going in a more "street" direction with their sound for NE. I still like "If It Isn't Love" and the 12" remix of "Crucial".

Adisa said:

I'll split the middle. The second album and Heart Break are my two favorites. "Cool It Now," "My Secret," "If It Isn't Love," "You're Not My Kind of Girl"...

Oh, I forgot about that one! I HATED it!!!!!

vainandy said:

"My Secret" was the fourth single from that album. I think I remember "Kinda Girls We Like" as being a little funky. The third album had a funky track called "S.C.H.O.O.L.".

AlexdeParis said:

"Kinda Girls We Like", "Mr. Telephone Man" "Hide and Seek" (5 Star's version is better, tho)

The 80's man.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...K_1JD47SZM

vainandy said:

The 1rst Time-album was completely played and recorded by P himself though ... without much assistence of Andre or Dez .
And i recall even P's 1rst 2 albums to be performed all by himself .
So in that perspective , i think he could do well on his own .
I'm also a big fan of that early era , but i can understand P's quest for new work .
The New Power Soul-album seems to be an underrated album among many fans , but imo , it was a cool solid direction in2 funk again .


I don't know x-actly how to observe to solo-joints from George Clinton or Roger Troutman , since a lot of their musical families joined them on those albums .

Steve Arrington did 3 to 4 slamming projects with Slave and stood out right away with dropping 2 years of albums with his Hall Of Fame-band .
His crossover-gospel direction got him exposure in the commercial (Soul) charts , but was not my cup-a-tea .

Jeffrey Osborne did not bad after LTD , but indeed , more in the direction to balladeering ( a few fast jams exepted ) .

George Michael has definitely grown after Wham .

Robbie Williams skyrocketed after Take That .
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Adisa said:

That was better than I remembered. Very electro--almost freestyle-ish.

sextonseven said:

Yep. Cool choreography, too. But something about those outfits. The look like they stink.

vainandy said:

Ghostbusters was bad (The music was stolen from Huey Lewis & The News) But the WORST song Ray ever did was a song called "Girls Are More Fun" Remember that one? I do because of the video. Irene Cara was in it at the beginning. And Ray was dressed up in drag at the end. He needed his @$$ SHOT for both the music and for making the UGLIEST drag queen this side of creation.

vainandy said:

Ghostbusters was bad (The music was stolen from Huey Lewis & The News) But the WORST song Ray ever did was a song called "Girls Are More Fun" Remember that one? I do because of the video. Irene Cara was in it at the beginning. And Ray was dressed up in drag at the end. He needed his @$$ SHOT for both the music and for making the UGLIEST drag queen this side of creation.

How about Curtis Mayfield? Was he better with The Impressions?

How about Curtis Mayfield? Was he better with Impressions?

Krytonite said:

wow...


Good question

The list of great artists who cashed in and sold out in the 80's is long and winding.

I can think of fewer pictures that sum it up like this.

With exceptions like Aurra , The BarKays , Don Blackman , Bootsy , Tyrone Brunson , Brick , Cameo , Ca$hlow , Chocolate Milk , Civil Attack , Collage , Con Funk Shun , Dazz Band , The Deele , Ebonee Webb , Fatback , Freedom , Funkadelic , Gap Band , General Caine , Rick James , Junie , Kleeer , Lakeside , Klymaxx , Magic Lady , Mantra , Midnight Star , Mtume , Bobby Nunn , Ohio Players , One Way , Parliament , Prince , The Reddings , Slave , Stone City Band , Sun , T-Connection , Tease , The Time , Twennynine , Steve " The Fearless Leader " Washington , Wreckin' Crew , Bernard Wright , Wynd Chymes , Zapp , Zoom and some others who kept the funk alive during a few years in the 80's .
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