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Thread started 09/25/06 6:22pm

carlcranshaw

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Ike and Tina from wayback

‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #1 posted 09/25/06 6:34pm

nurse

Much love for Tina, but Ike is another issue smile .
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Reply #2 posted 09/25/06 6:44pm

Anx

nurse said:

Much love for Tina, but Ike is another issue smile .


as a person, sure he may make pondscum look dignified, but as a musician he was (and still is, from what i saw on the gorillaz live dvd) pretty outstanding.
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Reply #3 posted 09/25/06 6:46pm

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Anx said:

nurse said:

Much love for Tina, but Ike is another issue smile .


as a person, sure he may make pondscum look dignified, but as a musician he was (and still is, from what i saw on the gorillaz live dvd) pretty outstanding.



he is funny as fuck on interviews though. No remorse whatsoever it seems confused lol
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Reply #4 posted 09/26/06 4:08am

Ottensen

OOH! eek !

Now that's "grown folks music" right there...shoot...I damn near blushed towards the end lol...but that was her husband, so whatevah!!! lol
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Reply #5 posted 09/26/06 4:12am

Natisse

Good gawd that woman rocks worship
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Reply #6 posted 09/26/06 4:15am

Natisse

another point in case... NUTBUSH babay!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Z4ZN2dRdH8
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Reply #7 posted 09/26/06 5:22am

Harlepolis

thesexofit said:

Anx said:



as a person, sure he may make pondscum look dignified, but as a musician he was (and still is, from what i saw on the gorillaz live dvd) pretty outstanding.



he is funny as fuck on interviews though. No remorse whatsoever it seems confused lol


His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.
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Reply #8 posted 09/26/06 7:22am

ThreadBare

Harlepolis said:

thesexofit said:




he is funny as fuck on interviews though. No remorse whatsoever it seems confused lol


His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.




WHAT???? omg Hollywood shouldn't be allowed to let distortion go out like that. That was the most gruesome aspect of the film. Wow...
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Reply #9 posted 09/26/06 7:35am

TommyRoss

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Harlepolis said:



His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.




WHAT???? omg Hollywood shouldn't be allowed to let distortion go out like that. That was the most gruesome aspect of the film. Wow...

I have serious problems with that movie. Outside of the performances (which were fierce), I think the movie as a whole was flawed. My biggest issue was that it painted Ike and Tina with such broad strokes of characterization that Ike became nothing more than a controlling asshole and Tina was nothing more than a victim up until the last scene where she suddenly gains control of everything. There was nothing on screen that showed what drew them to one another.
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Reply #10 posted 09/26/06 7:38am

onenitealone

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Natisse said:

Good gawd that woman rocks worship


The woman definitely deserves a lot of respect. worship

You know Mel, my mate? She went to see her live a few years back and said it was *the* best concert she'd ever seen. nod
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Reply #11 posted 09/26/06 7:57am

Natisse

onenitealone said:

Natisse said:

Good gawd that woman rocks worship


The woman definitely deserves a lot of respect. worship

You know Mel, my mate? She went to see her live a few years back and said it was *the* best concert she'd ever seen. nod


omfg I would SO love to see Tina in concert!! aww...
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Reply #12 posted 09/26/06 8:24am

Taurus

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ThreadBare said:

Harlepolis said:



His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.




WHAT???? omg Hollywood shouldn't be allowed to let distortion go out like that. That was the most gruesome aspect of the film. Wow...



VERY TRUE!!!! I saw an interview with Tina, and she stated that the movie was VERY VERY unfair to Ike.
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Reply #13 posted 09/26/06 11:16am

mikek1

Taurus said:

ThreadBare said:





WHAT???? omg Hollywood shouldn't be allowed to let distortion go out like that. That was the most gruesome aspect of the film. Wow...



VERY TRUE!!!! I saw an interview with Tina, and she stated that the movie was VERY VERY unfair to Ike.


it doesn't matter what happened in the film

icke reguraly beat tina senseless and he did rape her.She said he would beat her then have sex with her when she didn't want to! He once broke her jaw before she went on stage! He beat her with phones, pipes, belts and people shouldn't forget that!
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Reply #14 posted 09/26/06 11:18am

mikek1

Taurus said:

ThreadBare said:





WHAT???? omg Hollywood shouldn't be allowed to let distortion go out like that. That was the most gruesome aspect of the film. Wow...



VERY TRUE!!!! I saw an interview with Tina, and she stated that the movie was VERY VERY unfair to Ike.


it doesn't matter what happened in the film

icke reguraly beat tina senseless and he did rape her.She said he would beat her then have sex with her when she didn't want to! He once broke her jaw before she went on stage! He beat her with phones, pipes, belts and people shouldn't forget that!
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Reply #15 posted 09/26/06 11:42am

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Harlepolis said:

thesexofit said:




he is funny as fuck on interviews though. No remorse whatsoever it seems confused lol


His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.

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Well I read "I Tina "back in the day and Tina talked about being beated and forced to have sex after taking a beating. Sounds kind of like rape to me.

The stuff in her book is worst than what was in the movie so don't try to make Ike look like a victim.

If you want to read about Ike getting his ass beaten read Elain Brown's book about her Black Panther days's. Huey Newton whipped Ike's ass.
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Reply #16 posted 09/26/06 12:26pm

Harlepolis

laurarichardson said:

Harlepolis said:



His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.

The stuff in her book is worst than what was in the movie so don't try to make Ike look like a victim.


Cut the dumb bullshit rolleyes wipe the sand man off your eyes and read my post again before you flash these book titles @ my face. I know what I'm talking about word by word, so you might as well back the fuck off. Nobody's trying to make Ike a fuckin' victim. I'm just discussing the whole thing from an objective point of view, I'm not tolerating Ike's attitude but I'm not swollowing the "ideal" picture of Tina that Hollywood painted either(Which Tina HERSELF dismissed).

However, True; there were scenes that were deleted for being to disturbing(burning her with cigar, beating her with shoes and drowning her head into the swimming pool).

But NEVER did I imply a defence for Ike's favor. Don't ever get it twisted again, not with me.
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Reply #17 posted 09/26/06 12:27pm

6sixx6

Ike is a nice guy. He can get pissy when he is mad but so can a lot of people. Don't believe everything you see on TV and movies.
Music.............is the THANG!
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Reply #18 posted 09/26/06 12:27pm

TommyRoss

laurarichardson said:

Harlepolis said:



His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.

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Well I read "I Tina "back in the day and Tina talked about being beated and forced to have sex after taking a beating. Sounds kind of like rape to me.

The stuff in her book is worst than what was in the movie so don't try to make Ike look like a victim.

I don't think anyone's painting him as a victim - simply pointing out the sensationalism of the movie.
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Reply #19 posted 09/26/06 12:51pm

Harlepolis

ThreadBare said:

Harlepolis said:



His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.




WHAT???? omg Hollywood shouldn't be allowed to let distortion go out like that. That was the most gruesome aspect of the film. Wow...


Why not,,,they butchered the living hell out of Billie Holiday story. Why stop now? Everything in Lady Sings The Bluse is bullshit(minus the rape and the drug).

But Louis McKay(Billy Dee's character)

The supposedly white band-leader who introduced her to drugs.

Her supposedly naive mother.

And her COMPLETE ignorance of her music making.

Her image(which people tend to get fooled by, alot sadly)

Alot of baggage stacked with old dry bullshit.

Hollywood has a filled history of throwing cheese, butter and cream into the mix when it comes to bio-pix.
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Reply #20 posted 09/26/06 3:15pm

missfee

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damn ya'll making want to read her book for real....i think my mom has it, let me go search for it....
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #21 posted 09/26/06 5:26pm

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Tina Turner's voice is out of this planet. So much passion, so much expression. She always sings as if it was do or die. Make no mistake - she's the best commerically releasedfemale soul shouter in the world.


music He too, said that I was as sweet as honey, cause I'm 34, 38 and 22 at the tonky. They call me sweet Rhode Island red...

Don't give your love to sexy Ida..tralala...cuz she's a sister of a black widow spidaaaah...headbang

You know you're funkier than than a mosquito's tweeter... whistle
I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt.
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Reply #22 posted 09/30/06 2:01pm

laurarichardso
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Harlepolis said:

laurarichardson said:


The stuff in her book is worst than what was in the movie so don't try to make Ike look like a victim.


Cut the dumb bullshit rolleyes wipe the sand man off your eyes and read my post again before you flash these book titles @ my face. I know what I'm talking about word by word, so you might as well back the fuck off. Nobody's trying to make Ike a fuckin' victim. I'm just discussing the whole thing from an objective point of view, I'm not tolerating Ike's attitude but I'm not swollowing the "ideal" picture of Tina that Hollywood painted either(Which Tina HERSELF dismissed).

However, True; there were scenes that were deleted for being to disturbing(burning her with cigar, beating her with shoes and drowning her head into the swimming pool).

But NEVER did I imply a defence for Ike's favor. Don't ever get it twisted again, not with me.
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Hold off on the your bitch ass attitude. Your acting like Hollywood never does this when they do a bio-pic. The movie can't be 20 hours long so things are going to get changed and left out. Your post comes off as if this is a great horror that Ike was made to look worst than he was in real life. When in fact loads of horrible things he did were left out. It could have been worst and his dumb ass took a small sum of 50,000.00 dollars to allow himself to be protrayed in the movie. He could have stopped the whole project if he had half a brain.
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Reply #23 posted 09/30/06 4:52pm

TonyVanDam

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Harlepolis said:

thesexofit said:




he is funny as fuck on interviews though. No remorse whatsoever it seems confused lol


His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.



What about the fist fight in the limo (my favorite scene from the movie)?
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Reply #24 posted 10/01/06 2:58am

Harlepolis

TonyVanDam said:

Harlepolis said:



His book "Taking My Back Name"(something to that affect) made waves when it was published.

True to his credit, the movie was bullshitting in alot of ways. Both aknowledged that the rape incident neva happend, so was the Ritz gun confrontation(in fact, they neva met after they got the divorce).

Angela sunk her teeth into that role but there was ALOT of bullshit floating around in order to sansualize the story.

I suggest everybody to pick Tina's auotbio for more truthful resource. The movie painted her as this "ideal mother" when all she did was pack her bags and run to Europe and left her kids to her mother, the nanny and Ike(she herself admitted that).

One more thing, there's no JACKIE(The Ikette who introduced Tina to Buddhism). It was a white woman(4got her name) who took Tina in and introduced her to Buddhism. Another form of sansualizing and manipulating the truth.

Once again, go back to the book. Far more intersting than the movie, I might say.



What about the fist fight in the limo (my favorite scene from the movie)?


Yeah, I believe that was true(according to the book).
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Reply #25 posted 10/01/06 3:08am

Harlepolis

laurarichardson said:

Harlepolis said:



Cut the dumb bullshit rolleyes wipe the sand man off your eyes and read my post again before you flash these book titles @ my face. I know what I'm talking about word by word, so you might as well back the fuck off. Nobody's trying to make Ike a fuckin' victim. I'm just discussing the whole thing from an objective point of view, I'm not tolerating Ike's attitude but I'm not swollowing the "ideal" picture of Tina that Hollywood painted either(Which Tina HERSELF dismissed).

However, True; there were scenes that were deleted for being to disturbing(burning her with cigar, beating her with shoes and drowning her head into the swimming pool).

But NEVER did I imply a defence for Ike's favor. Don't ever get it twisted again, not with me.
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Hold off on the your bitch ass attitude. Your acting like Hollywood never does this when they do a bio-pic. The movie can't be 20 hours long so things are going to get changed and left out. Your post comes off as if this is a great horror that Ike was made to look worst than he was in real life. When in fact loads of horrible things he did were left out. It could have been worst and his dumb ass took a small sum of 50,000.00 dollars to allow himself to be protrayed in the movie. He could have stopped the whole project if he had half a brain.


Wrong again!

Things are going to be left out, yes. But shouldn't be manipulated and changed. And if he couldn't stop the stuff from circulating out of the book, how the hell could he stop a movie plan(considering that they bought the rights for the book)?

And like I said(Over and over rolleyes), nobody's debating whether he was a BEAST or a beauty. I'm just taking a shot at Hollywood's hypocrisy.

Can't believe we still stalking about this shit? lol
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Reply #26 posted 10/01/06 1:27pm

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Harlepolis said:

laurarichardson said:


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Hold off on the your bitch ass attitude. Your acting like Hollywood never does this when they do a bio-pic. The movie can't be 20 hours long so things are going to get changed and left out. Your post comes off as if this is a great horror that Ike was made to look worst than he was in real life. When in fact loads of horrible things he did were left out. It could have been worst and his dumb ass took a small sum of 50,000.00 dollars to allow himself to be protrayed in the movie. He could have stopped the whole project if he had half a brain.


Wrong again!

Things are going to be left out, yes. But shouldn't be manipulated and changed. And if he couldn't stop the stuff from circulating out of the book, how the hell could he stop a movie plan(considering that they bought the rights for the book)?

And like I said(Over and over rolleyes), nobody's debating whether he was a BEAST or a beauty. I'm just taking a shot at Hollywood's hypocrisy.

Can't believe we still stalking about this shit? lol

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"But shouldn't be manipulated and changed" But it is because it is Hollywood. They are looking for a why to give the story some pop. It happens all the time and Ike was the one who complained about only getting 50k for giving up his rights. Not sure if you can do anything about a book outside of suing after the book is out.
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Reply #27 posted 10/01/06 6:55pm

KingKrazy

well bobby brown better take notes, because when the Whitney Houston story is published, Bobby is going to be looking just like Ike Turner, the white media is already trying to make the story similar so get ready for Ike and Tina pt2
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