Anyone else notice how much this intro to this song sounds like Nasty Girl by vanity 6? Still a great song and brilliant record. For people who aren't hip to Van Hunt, you need to pick up On the Jungle Floor. It's much better than his debut (although Down here in hell is the SHIT!).

Oh and another thing, now that we have found Maxwell- where the fuck is D'angelo??

On the jungle floor is good but i have to say his
debut cd was better. Down here in Hell,dust,Seconds of Pleasure,
Hello Goodbye, Highlights,etc. The whole damn joint was hot.
On the jungle floor just didn't have that one knockout funk cut
that his debut had.

larksanders said:

BlaqueKnight said:

co-

Can't go 2 months without someone saying some new song sounds like "Nasty Girl"



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[Edited 9/21/06 18:36pm]

Never thought of Nasty Girl when I heard it but I can see why you'd say that...

I finally got this album. It's strange because while I totally admire the muscianship in it (and some of the production one-ups what Prince has been doing lately), there's just something missing. I can't quite get into it. Maybe I should check out the first one.

I didn't say the whole song sounds like Nasty Girl. The very begining of the song the same drums sounds are being used- yes it does sound VERY similar. Take another listen- matter fact he has it streaming on his myspace page.

Also his first CD had some good songs, but most were fuckin sappy ass bland R&B. Dust was corny! On the Jungle Floor overall just has better songwriting. It's like he didn't care and wanted to create a record he would like. Whereas his first CD he played it safe. Kinda like what Prince did on his second record.

larksanders said:

chuckaducci said:

LOL Aight then man- to each his own. The second cd is the shitznitz though!

larksanders said:

I noticed that this morning. I don't think he used it as inspiration though. Good catch on your part.

The 1st time I heard it (the opening beat) that's the song that came to mind. Great CD.

larksanders said:

Van Hunt is American Idol crap.

And who CARES where D'Angelo is?! They guy couldn't do anything that JT can't anyway. He was just an imitator, another one from the now-worn-out-look-we-were-copying-past-greats genre that is known as "neo-soul".

And Maxwell... who really listens to this crap? When will you people start listening to REAL talents, not radio-shit new R&B and Idol losers?

pezdispenser said:

Okay, pezhead. Who would you suggest?

BlaqueKnight said:

Perhaps, Beck?

ThreadBare said:

pezdispenser said:

Obviously this guy doesn't know what he's talking about or is just trying to get a rise out of people. Well mission accomplished!

Did you really say Van Hunt was American Idol but yet states that D'Angelo can't do what JT does(I'm assuming Justin Timberlake)? Yeah.....

I feel an intervention is needed, put the pipe down son.

And I listen to Maxwell because he makes good music and can sing. COmpare Maxwells falsetto to JT's- No competition- Maxwell blows him out the water

bye bye bye

pezdispenser said:

Thanks for that laugh. I needed it.

Phuck justin timberlake a wannabe r&b artist. I never liked his
music. Once he pissed on janet, my dislike grew for him even more.
Van Hunt is twice the artist he will ever be. Why don't justin
go back with his Nsync boyfriend lance bass for his nightly
bubble bath. Get the phuck out of here with that justin bullshit.

ThreadBare said:

Yeah, OK. He'll do. He's more original and talented that Van Hunt. I'll take that one, good suggestion.

No, what you need to be taking is a refund for that botched lobotomy you paid for. There's no way that Beck Hansen's more original and/or talented than Van Hunt.

chuckaducci said:

This is quite possibly the dumbest music related statement I have ever read on the Org.

Van Hunt was an American Idol loser, and his whole style is dependant on imitating other artists that came before him. Lyrically he is weak, and musically even more so. Justin Timberlake is doing the exact same thing and you all hate him. JT, Van Hunt and any other "artist" like DAngelo or Maxwell have nothing without copying the greater artists that came before them.

I thought the Beck suggestion previously made was a pretty good one actually.
Beck has created musical sounds that previously didn't exist, is lyrically strong and original, and is influenced by other artists without ever stooping to imitating them.

Think about it: did Prince directly copy another artist when he was hitting it big (a la JT, Maxwell, Van Hunt), or was he simply influenced by them, but still sounded like Prince (a la Beck, MJ, Outkast, Zapp)?

That is the sign of an original and relevant artist. Van Hunt is irrelevant and stale.
[Edited 9/23/06 18:31pm]

pezdispenser said:

Different strokes for different folks. I don't see the point in arguing over different taste.

Bought Van Hunts latest yesterday and I am VERY impressed.

nikkhendrix said:

pezdispenser said:

BWAHAHAHAHAH! You have the nerve to say that, yet you're roaming these boards with a Beck hard on? Misguided youth!







Beck has created musical sounds that didnt previously exist? That statement you just made reminds of a Hypebole: 1001 Uses seminar I took at the community college's English Lit class here in town. Odelay's got samples, cat daddy - how is an album of samples an album with "musical sounds that previously didn't exist"?! The Dust Brothers copped The Beastie Boys on that one (Odelay). Sea Change? Can you say "Histoire de Melody Nelson?" Nigel Godrich and Beck are simply ripping off Serge Gainsbourg and Jean-Claude Vannier, if Daniel Lanois was helming the boards. "Paper Tiger" off of that album is a complete, 100% pure, unadulterated rip off of Serge Gainsbourg!

Midnite Vulture? A 1976 Prince demo before he honed his craft. There's even a word for word lifting from a Kratwerk album on "Get Real Paid." Dont bother to bring up Guero and Beck's sudden and new found penchant for all things Hispanic - how's an album full of Brazilian and Mexican flourishes capable of supporting your ludicrous statement? And Beck's lyrics are perfunctory at best - wow, he's sad (Sea Change) and his white boy faux raps are full of white boy angst (every other album other than Sea Change).

I met you
at JC Penney
I think your nametag
said "Jenny"
I cold step to you
with a fresh pack of gum
Somehow I knew
you were lookin' for some
like a fruit that's ripe for a pickin'
I wanna do you like that Zankou Chicken
'cos only you've got a thing
that I just got to get with
I just got to get with you
and you know what we're gonna do

I wanna get with you
and your sister
I think her name's Debra



.....Stupid.




Time wears away
All the pleasures of the day
All the treasures you could hold
Days turn to sand
Losing strength in every hand
They can't hold you anymore

Already dead to me now
'Coz it feels like I'm watching something die

Love looks away
In the harsh light of the day
On the edge of nothing more
Days fade to black
In the light of what they lack
Nothing's measured by what it needs

Already dead to me now
'Coz it feels like I'm watching something dyin



....Overwrought.


Get off the Beck is a lyrical genius bandwagon - there's no one driving it. Beck's good at one thing - pastiche. He's no Bowie - who could write a song - not amateurishly pepper an album with sonic tomfoolery and pass it off as "good art."




Um, yes? Have you ever heard of Joni Mitchell, James Brown, Sly Stone and Santana? All influences heard on Prince's early records and seen during his live shows. The genius of Prince's talent is that he's able to take those influences and meld them into his own unique style. Beck? - pastiche.



You don't like Van Hunt - who cares? But to slight him in order to lift up Beck? That's putting the "N" in ig'nant.

pezdispenser said:

Are you confusing that with Randy Jackson being his manager?

chuckaducci said:

Yeah, I have the nerve to say that. And I'm not a youth. Nor misguided.





Way to miss a point. I'm saying that Beck has been influenced by other artists/styles, but still sounds like Beck. And don't call me "CatDaddy".





Ok, this time you got the general gist, but you are just wrong. Beck can and has done that. I only used beck cause another user suggested him. I could have used Bowie. If I had said Bowie instead of Beck, you would probably still be bitching about him. And you have missed the main point again: I was comparing Beck to Van Hunt, not to Prince.





You do, obviously.





What does this even mean? And you took an English Lit class to churn out this nonsense and miss the point? Somehow I don't think you needed to do that class.
[Edited 9/24/06 19:52pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

Agreed on all counts.

Pez,


For you to say this:

pezdispenser said:

And this bollocks, where you gush ever so hyperbolic about Beck, who's ripped off his fair share of artists:





And then post this BS:





...and then read my rebuttal and say I missed the point? G T F O! And I learned that little phrase "N" in "ig'nant" from my ghetto ass family.


I agree with BK and AlexdeParis - and I think Hunt can do even better!