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Printablecubic61052 said: What I am noticing about all the various lists: most of the artists mentioned were his peers....their paths possibly crossed on numerous occasions.....and he probably was a fan of several.
Carlos Santana and Bob Marley... Frank Zappa.  Hendrix and Zappa's paths definitely crossed... Chesters was referring to the photo session on the 18th that yielded the inside cover of "We're Only In It For The Money" - the Sergeant Pepper parody. Fortunately, this happening was also captured on 8mm film - a glimpse of Jimi during the photo call by Jerry Schatzberg can be seen in the TV documentary on Frank Zappa, entitled Biography (released in 1994). On February 24 1986, UniVibes interviewed Frank Zappa, and asked if he ever played with Jimi Hendrix. Zappa replied: "I played with Hendrix twice... One night he played in a club right next door called the Cafe Au Go Go and we invited him to come and play with us. So we shared the stage that time... And there was a jam session in Miami." Mitch Mitchell in his book "The Jimi Hendrix Experience" stated: "We did a couple of nights at the Cafe Au Go Go. I remember that because Zappa and The Mothers were in the upstairs bit, the Garrick Theater... I sat in with them once and I think Jimi may well have too..." (Pyramid Books, London, 1990, p. 69). Frank Zappa also attended one of the JHE shows at the Cafe Au Go Go. Zappa told Noë Goldwasser in "Guitar World" (April 1987): "I thought Hendrix was great. But the very first time I saw him [perform], I had the incredible misfortune of sitting close to him at the Au Go Go in New York City and he had a whole stack of Marshalls. I was right in front of it. I was physically ill. I couldn't get out; it was so packed, I couldn't escape. And although it was great, I didn't see how anybody could inflict that kind of volume on himself, let alone other people. That particular show he ended by taking the guitar and impaling it in the low ceiling of the club. Just walked away and left it squealing." http://www.thebignote.com..._pt_iv.php =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Part of the story is confirmed by former Mother, Jimmy Carl Black (...the indian of the group)... Q: Where was the inside cover shot done for the "Money" album. Jimi Hendrix joined you for the album picture. Do you remember how he felt, or what his attitude was toward the Mothers in dresses, and the photo experience? A: Some place on Fifth Ave. in New York City. I think the photographer was Faye Dunaway`s husband at the time. I don`t know how Jimi felt about the whole thing. I think it was good publicity for him. I know I didn`t like that dress 'cause it didn't fit but I thought it was a great picture. We weren`t the first band to do a picture in drag; The Rolling Stones were. If it was good enough for them then it had to be good enough for us. Q: I believe that you have reported that you had a chance to share the bill with Jimi Hendrix. Did you ever actually play with him on stage? A: We played a bunch of times with Jimi in the 60's. He jammed with the Mothers at NYC's Garrick Theater a few times before he made it at Monterey Festival. Hell, nobody knew who he was at that time in the states. He was big in England. We all became good friends and I am still in touch with Noel Redding (original bass player with the Jimi Hendrix http://www.stevemoore.add...appa2.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= tA  Tribal Disorder
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mikek1 said: TommyRoss said: 
And I ain't got nothin' else to say no how! Ignorance! Ever watched penn and teller's bullshit? Mo terressa thought people should suffer to 'learn'; she actually created worse situations for many people! Ghandi beat his wife! you sure are dumb With the lack of spelling and grammar skills in that rant, you're going to call me dumb?  | |
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I remain confused at what Penn & Teller have to do with it all.. 
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mikek1 said: cubic61052 said: I am surprised ...I could imagine them both saying f*ck it and making music anyway.....money or no money.....obviously it wasn't all about the music... Any books you specifically recommend? You mean books about Jimi? 'romm full of mirrors' is the most well reasearched book ever. The author spent four years and over 300 interviews putting it together. People who had never spoke before to anyone discussed the REAL jimi. If you think jimi was a great guy though prepared to be shocked at the real man he was. Miles wrote his autobiography which pretty much explains why alot of people think he's a piece of shit. Electric Gypsy is better ! | |
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theAudience said: cubic61052 said: Any books you specifically recommend?
Regarding Miles, this would be a good place to start... 
...Miles The Autobiography Just read these 2 recently...  
...Miles to Go & Running the Voodoo Down This has always been my favorite Hendrix book... 
...Crosstown Traffic That's if you're interested in their music and not their personal lives of course. 
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prettymansson said: you need to come chill at my house..I have all those books as well..crosstown traffic is great !!!!!
The next time I come home (NYC) to visit i'll look you up.
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cubic61052 said: I remain confused at what Penn & Teller have to do with it all..
Penn & Teller used to have an HBO series called... 
...Bullshit! Hence the reference. Smashing. 
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theAudience said: cubic61052 said: I remain confused at what Penn & Teller have to do with it all..
Penn & Teller used to have an HBO series called...
...Bullshit! Hence the reference. Smashing.
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Sdldawn said: It be on showtime now eh? You are correct sir. Got my premium channels crossed.
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Meloh9 said: Miles said: Sonny Sharrock, especially his 'Guitar' and 'Ask the Ages' albums.
Bob Marley, I suspect, Jimi would have dug also. Lee 'Scratch' Perry Much of what Bill Laswell has released. Mahavishnu Orchestra, especially original line-up. Santana, esp. in the seventies. Frank Zappa in general, as he was another composer/ guitarist/ producer. Early Public Enemy and many more! I can really see jimi getting into Sonny Sharrock. Doesn't he predate Jimi in using "fuzz" Yeah, Sharrock does predate Hendrix in feedback and fuzz...and according to Charles Schaar Murray, in "Crosstown Traffic"...Hendrix got to check Sonny out. He quotes an Hendrix interview with John Burke, and John plays some Sonny Sharrock...Hendrix is interested in who the guitarist is.... ' John Burke: " That's Sharrock. Yeah, he's all over the guitar. Sometimes it sounds like it's not too orderly," and Hendrix (nods , laughs): "Sounds like someone we know, huh?" ' Sharrock himself mentioned in a few interviews that Jimi would duck in from time to time to check him out...Seems Hendrix always knew who were the cats to check out, be it Miles, Sly, Rashaan Roland Kirk, Buddy Guy, or Sharrock.... -- I agree about Mahavishnu In fact, John Mclaughlin did jam with Hendrix on at least one occassion, but John was on acoustic guitar...., I also think Jimi might have recognized a kindred spirit in Eddie Hazel, but that's just my opinion.....I think he would have dug Bernie Worrell, well, like someone else said, Funkadelic in general, and folks like Herbie Hancock, too..... ... [Edited 9/21/06 21:58pm] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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speaking of Sharrock, I came across this piece of an interview that I thought was Too Kool...
'Ben Ratliff: You hold Coltrane in special regard. Sonny Sharrock: I listen to Coltrane continually; I listen to Coltrane every day. I try to listen to some of the masters every day. Ben Ratliff: Who else do you consider to be masters? Sonny Sharrock: Miles, Bird: They're my favorite masters. Louis Armstrong, Duke, Samuel Barber, Ralph Vaughn Williams, Aaron Copland… Copland, man, those fuckin' melodies, Jesus! Ben Ratliff: What about guitarists? Sonny Sharrock: …When I started playing guitar back in '59, there was no way to learn, there was nothing, you just had to woodshed, but nowadays you can get "Guitar Player" [Magazine] and you can become a fucking guitar techno-wizard in about three months if you practice every day. One thing about many guitar players is that they take themselves very seriously. That's another reason why I listen so much to the masters: because it's hard to take yourself so seriously when you have these motherfuckers. I think a cat like Al DiMeola would play even better if he smiled a little bit. The shit ain't that serious."' ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: speaking of Sharrock, I came across this piece of an interview that I thought was Too Kool...
Ben Ratliff: What about guitarists? Sonny Sharrock: …When I started playing guitar back in '59, there was no way to learn, there was nothing, you just had to woodshed, but nowadays you can get "Guitar Player" [Magazine] and you can become a fucking guitar techno-wizard in about three months if you practice every day. One thing about many guitar players is that they take themselves very seriously. That's another reason why I listen so much to the masters: because it's hard to take yourself so seriously when you have these motherfuckers. I think a cat like Al DiMeola would play even better if he smiled a little bit. The shit ain't that serious."'[/i] ...  That's some funny shit.
I always got a kick out of his take on the guitar and chord playing... ." Today, at 47, he still swears that "I don't like guitars; I like drums and I like Coltrane. People used to get mad at me when I'd get hired for gigs rd . d say, 'I ain't gonna play chords. That's guitar. I'm a horn player." At Berklee, Sharrock nailed the essentials of theory and got into a band but briefly. "We worked just one night at a coffeehouse in Cambridge," he says, chuckling over what ensued. "Sam Rivers and Tony Williams were in town and decided to sit in, and they destroyed us. They played 'Milestones' at a tempo I had never realized." http://www.sonnysharrock....arrock.asp More from that Ben Ratliff interview... Ben Ratliff: On this though, there's a lot of multi-tracking, sounds like. Sonny Sharrock: A lot of multi-track, yeah, because I couldn't stand just the sound of the empty guitar. See, I don't play chords, so I had to lay down a lot of lines behind myself instead of playing chords, you know. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Sharrock: That's guitar. I'm a horn player."
Y'know It's funny, I bet Allan Holdsworth would say the same thing, !!!
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Jimi would obviously have dug Parliament/ Funkadelic.
I would add to my list Curtis Mayfield, a fairly well known major influence on Jimi as a guitarist, as heard throughout 'Electric Ladyland' (the song) and elsewhere. Various post-sixties Bob Dylan records. Obviously Pete Cosey from Miles' mid-seventies band. He was/is just maaad! Derek Bailey, arch avant-garde improvising guitarist Also Sun Ra, master of the 'out there' sounds of jazz, as well as being George Clinton's 'image daddy'! As to Sonny Sharrock, PaliGap, I was gonna find that Jimi quote about him, but couldn't remember where it came from. Any luck person who owns Sharrock's 'Guitar' album, listen to tracks like 'Blind Willie' (produced by Bill Laswell, an major Hendrix influencee admittedly) and you can hear Sharrock almost channelling Jimi's 'Star Spangled Banner' (the extraordinary studio version), released on some post-humous '70's Jimi album and out now as part of the 'Jimi hendrix Experience' box set. The nearer we get to the present day, the harder it is to find music we can say he might have dug (tho his tastes would have evolved, as do all of us). Time has moved on from Jimi's day, as it must. That age/ generation is slowly coming to an end, as all good things do ...  | |
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paligap said: theAudience said: Sharrock: That's guitar. I'm a horn player."
Y'know It's funny, I bet Allan Holdsworth would say the same thing, !!!
... Yes, in terms of soloing he's mentioned that. However he's not opposed to playing chords and has an incredible chord concept. That's why i'm glad he's playing with... 
...Alan Pasqua tonight. While Alan is soloing hopefully he'll show off a few of his... 
...8 fret voicings. 
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theAudience said: paligap said: Y'know It's funny, I bet Allan Holdsworth would say the same thing, !!!
... Yes, in terms of soloing he's mentioned that. However he's not opposed to playing chords and has an incredible chord concept. That's why i'm glad he's playing with...
...Alan Pasqua tonight. While Alan is soloing hopefully he'll show off a few of his...
...8 fret voicings.
Oh Yeah, He's got some atonishing chordal ability! and they don't call him the spider for nothing!! ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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while we're in Hendrix mode, there was another interesting quote from guitarist Jean Paul Bourelly, regarding Miles Davis, commerciality, and changing styles: '- Your potential was not used very much on the Miles Davis album 'Amandla' - why? jpb -It was a pleasure to do that record on an emotional level. I listened to Miles as a kid and then I played on his record. That, of course, was a great feeling, but on another level there was a lot of politics around Miles at that time. His operation was more radio-oriented, not like the records that made me get into his music in the first place. Sessions where the cats were just playing mistakes and all. "That session was done under very controlled circumstances; no mistakes saw the light of day. There was a lot of computer automation going on, and I think they (the producers) were trying to highlight Miles's working group and Marcus as a composer, and so they mixed and edited the session that way. " "It turned out to be a nice record, but I could see I wouldn't be highlighted too much, because a few times I really cut loose on some takes, and I saw one of the producers' face kind of look down at the floor, and I knew then my shit was up, Lol!!." "But those cut loose takes are on a master tape somewhere in the Warner Bros. vaults, It's in there SOMEWHERE! Music politics, man. "' Big difference from those John Mclaughlin/Sonny Sharrock Jack Johnson sessions, hunh? ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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The first act that comes to mind is P-Funk. Otherwise, any artist, regarding of musical genre, race or age, if they represented creativity and freedom, I think that it would be likely that Jimi would have dug them. Going back to what Meloh stated in his thread about Prince's cut "Rasberry Beret", from the same album, P ironically knocks Hendrix in his lyrics to "America". Because Jimi didn't want to stand in class during the Pledge of Allegiance and because Jimi didn't finish high school and did drugs, Prince sings
"Jimmy Nothing never went to school They made him pledge allegiance, He said it wasn't cool Nothing made Jimmy proud Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud" I NEVER dug these lyrics. And I always thought it odd that the very cat that P was biting off, making his career off of biting off of Hendrix, for him to all of a sudden, get cute and flip by making these comments directed at Hendrix. My thing was and is; If Jimi wasn't nothing, then why have you been basically imitating him your whole career? Especially up to that point. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: The first act that comes to mind is P-Funk. Otherwise, any artist, regarding of musical genre, race or age, if they represented creativity and freedom, I think that it would be likely that Jimi would have dug them. Going back to what Meloh stated in his thread about Prince's cut "Rasberry Beret", from the same album, P ironically knocks Hendrix in his lyrics to "America". Because Jimi didn't want to stand in class during the Pledge of Allegiance and because Jimi didn't finish high school and did drugs, Prince sings
"Jimmy Nothing never went to school They made him pledge allegiance, He said it wasn't cool Nothing made Jimmy proud Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud" I NEVER dug these lyrics. And I always thought it odd that the very cat that P was biting off, making his career off of biting off of Hendrix, for him to all of a sudden, get cute and flip by making these comments directed at Hendrix. My thing was and is; If Jimi wasn't nothing, then why have you been basically imitating him your whole career? Especially up to that point. that's not about hendrix; the mushroom cloud is from a bomb! | |
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mikek1 said: blackguitaristz said: The first act that comes to mind is P-Funk. Otherwise, any artist, regarding of musical genre, race or age, if they represented creativity and freedom, I think that it would be likely that Jimi would have dug them. Going back to what Meloh stated in his thread about Prince's cut "Rasberry Beret", from the same album, P ironically knocks Hendrix in his lyrics to "America". Because Jimi didn't want to stand in class during the Pledge of Allegiance and because Jimi didn't finish high school and did drugs, Prince sings
"Jimmy Nothing never went to school They made him pledge allegiance, He said it wasn't cool Nothing made Jimmy proud Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud" I NEVER dug these lyrics. And I always thought it odd that the very cat that P was biting off, making his career off of biting off of Hendrix, for him to all of a sudden, get cute and flip by making these comments directed at Hendrix. My thing was and is; If Jimi wasn't nothing, then why have you been basically imitating him your whole career? Especially up to that point. that's not about hendrix; the mushroom cloud is from a bomb! It IS about Hendrix. Out of many books I have about Jimi, one of them has where Jimi is qouted talking about when he was in grade school and how he didn't want to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance and later, he dropped out of high school. Now, if you can't see where the first lines in P's lyrics weren't directed to Jimi, then I don't know what to tell you. And dealing with the mushroom cloud line, I KNOW that's code for a bomb, BUT it's also code for drugs. And P's reference is that since nothing made Jimi proud and that he was a known drug user, look where and how he ended up. Those are clear digs at Hendrix. I'll even go on to say that the picture of the little black boy waving the flag is supposed to represent Hendrix. That also is tied in to those lyrics in the song "America". SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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paligap said: ...
Big difference from those John Mclaughlin/Sonny Sharrock Jack Johnson sessions, hunh? ... Yup. Timing's a bitch! Ton of guitar-pickers credited on that Amandla release. (JPB, Michael Landau, Steve Khan, Marcus, etc) Jack Johnson should've been Jimi's gig.
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theAudience said: paligap said: ...
Big difference from those John Mclaughlin/Sonny Sharrock Jack Johnson sessions, hunh? ... Yup. Timing's a bitch! Jack Johnson should've been Jimi's gig.
 Yeah, No Joke!!!!
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Well we all know (or should know) how much Jimi loved and respected Bob Dylan and I firmly believe he would absolutely love Dylans work from the past 10 years.
I also think Jimi would've liked Living Color and the RHCP. | |
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 Tower Of Power no doubt
he would have dug Roger Troutman and his ZAPP Group Early Kool and the Gang E.W.F. Bernie Worell and so much more!!! | |
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Miles said: Jimi would obviously have dug Parliament/ Funkadelic.
I would add to my list Curtis Mayfield, a fairly well known major influence on Jimi as a guitarist, as heard throughout 'Electric Ladyland' (the song) and elsewhere. Various post-sixties Bob Dylan records. Obviously Pete Cosey from Miles' mid-seventies band. He was/is just maaad! Derek Bailey, arch avant-garde improvising guitarist Also Sun Ra, master of the 'out there' sounds of jazz, as well as being George Clinton's 'image daddy'! As to Sonny Sharrock, PaliGap, I was gonna find that Jimi quote about him, but couldn't remember where it came from. Any luck person who owns Sharrock's 'Guitar' album, listen to tracks like 'Blind Willie' (produced by Bill Laswell, an major Hendrix influencee admittedly) and you can hear Sharrock almost channelling Jimi's 'Star Spangled Banner' (the extraordinary studio version), released on some post-humous '70's Jimi album and out now as part of the 'Jimi hendrix Experience' box set. The nearer we get to the present day, the harder it is to find music we can say he might have dug (tho his tastes would have evolved, as do all of us). Time has moved on from Jimi's day, as it must. That age/ generation is slowly coming to an end, as all good things do ... who knows, he may have liked Radiohead also, or groups like The Cure. Jimi seemed really open minded. Or maybe even some punk or ska. | |
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blackguitaristz said: The first act that comes to mind is P-Funk. Otherwise, any artist, regarding of musical genre, race or age, if they represented creativity and freedom, I think that it would be likely that Jimi would have dug them. Going back to what Meloh stated in his thread about Prince's cut "Rasberry Beret", from the same album, P ironically knocks Hendrix in his lyrics to "America". Because Jimi didn't want to stand in class during the Pledge of Allegiance and because Jimi didn't finish high school and did drugs, Prince sings
"Jimmy Nothing never went to school They made him pledge allegiance, He said it wasn't cool Nothing made Jimmy proud Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud" I NEVER dug these lyrics. And I always thought it odd that the very cat that P was biting off, making his career off of biting off of Hendrix, for him to all of a sudden, get cute and flip by making these comments directed at Hendrix. My thing was and is; If Jimi wasn't nothing, then why have you been basically imitating him your whole career? Especially up to that point. How do you know the lyrics pertain to Jimi Hendrix ?? | |
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He definitely would have been good friends with Carlos Santana,and I'm sure they would have recorded an album together.In fact,Carlos says that he met Jimi at Woodstock and Jimi asked if he could join the Santana Band! | |
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NatePerk said: blackguitaristz said: The first act that comes to mind is P-Funk. Otherwise, any artist, regarding of musical genre, race or age, if they represented creativity and freedom, I think that it would be likely that Jimi would have dug them. Going back to what Meloh stated in his thread about Prince's cut "Rasberry Beret", from the same album, P ironically knocks Hendrix in his lyrics to "America". Because Jimi didn't want to stand in class during the Pledge of Allegiance and because Jimi didn't finish high school and did drugs, Prince sings
"Jimmy Nothing never went to school They made him pledge allegiance, He said it wasn't cool Nothing made Jimmy proud Now Jimmy lives on a mushroom cloud" I NEVER dug these lyrics. And I always thought it odd that the very cat that P was biting off, making his career off of biting off of Hendrix, for him to all of a sudden, get cute and flip by making these comments directed at Hendrix. My thing was and is; If Jimi wasn't nothing, then why have you been basically imitating him your whole career? Especially up to that point. How do you know the lyrics pertain to Jimi Hendrix ?? Wow,I never knew those lyrics were about Jimi! | |
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