That was the question i posed myself today at a starbucks , while sexyback By JT was in the background. It seemed like everyone felt that song but me. And in thoe times you have to ask yourself, If music is really about musicality, Or is it about dancing ditty numbers.
I use to criticize people we categorize as Teenyboppers as for cowtowing to the musical microchip being implanted into their heads by mainstream america. Only Just recently i realized that perhaps in their eyes that was good music. With that kinda notion you have ask yourself "Who am i to criticize anybody's music or preference in music". Music is universal, and maybe their is no "Good or Bad Music"

But then their's the other part of my consciousness just seeping away into the catacombs of my fragile sanity. the part that remembers that Jimi Hendrix was booed off the stage after being introduced by The Monkees. That Day the teenyboppers got a glimpse into the future of music in the form of psychedelic guitar rock and they spat in the face of it. And you gotta wonder as prince Claims, Does the Jukebox have a heartbeat? Maybe some people are so lost into the system of one form of music they can't appreciate the new and innovational

But the new awareness points out maybe im no different and i can't see the true Innovation in Sexyback or any other song Because im so blind because of the false image i've created for music. Maybe im no different from the teenyboppers, What makes the music i Like so special, more special than anyone elses?

Sitting in a starbucks with a moment of clarity...
Who's right?
is there a right or wrong?

Musical Philosophy 101
[Edited 9/15/06 13:06pm]

There is a thing called asthetic criteria.

Sometimes I use the term "bad music" but truthfully I guess everything has its place. What I consider "bad music" or even just music that I dont like or wouldnt buy is not the same for someone else who really appreciates that kind of music. The problem in my opinion is that there is no balance. Everything you see and hear on radio and T.V. is basically the same with no room for new artists with different types of styles.

Ask Simon Cowell. He thinks he know good music better than we do.











As if?

2freaky4church1 said:

u think that applies here though?
when it comes to perception
ones own view point is aesthetic to then

which is the main premise of this idea...

I think what one calls "good" or "bad" music is down to personal taste, age and experience. That's why I found lists of the "Best Album ever" in Q magazine or some other self-righteous magazine subjective.They rarely mean anything. The only thing that all these polls will show is that the Beatles somehow or another always have up to 3 albums in the top ten, everything else varies from one poll to another.

I do however think you could see the artists that are going to make an impact on the music industry with their originality and indiviualism and the one-hit wonders or wannabees who will disappear after a few years.

Bad = Disco Duck

whatsgoingon said:

I use to think that too...
but when britney spears became a multimillion dollar franchise, it kinda blew that theory out of the water...
[Edited 9/15/06 14:04pm]

EmbattledWarrior said:

No one ...

EmbattledWarrior said:

No ... only subjectiveness .

"bad" music is poorly executed or lacks definitive creativity

No right or wrong. It gets hairy when preachiness about so-called "real music" and whatnot comes into play.

origmnd said:

but if somebody likes it, is it really bad?

EmbattledWarrior said:

But nowadays Brittney is in the news mainly for her 24 hr marriage, her marriage with her present husband and her mothering skills(forever dropping her baby and driving with him on her lap). I doubt she would be remembered has a musical heavy weight. Having said that I don't mind some of her songs.
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EmbattledWarrior said:

Yes. It's still bad even if someone likes it. And then I would say that person has bad taste in music.

EmbattledWarrior said:

Put it this way. If I've only seen a few crap paintings in my life and you show me a painting your brother's done, I might think it's fantastic and tell everyone how great it is. But if I've never seen Van Gogh, Picasso, Rembrandt, or any other genius painters, my opinion will be more a reflection of my ignorance than how good your brother's painting is. It's called not knowing your shit.
If someone says Dustbin Timberfake is great, the first thing I'd ask them would be who else they think is great. Unless I can see they've got some knowledge of the subject then I'd take their opinion for what it's worth. Zilch. Also, remember a lot of people like what they're told to like. They don't really even know their own minds. Back in the day I knew people who thought Bobby Brown was much better than Prince. Now those same people are embarassed to be reminded of that. In other words they grow up later and realise how silly they've been. It's a process some Janet Jackson fans are going through right now.

whoknows said:

whoknows said:

I'm a witness to this.

No good or bad music. It's just personal preference.

Nothing has intrinsic value... its value comes from how it makes people feel... if someone enjoys a piece of music, then it's 'good' for them...

any other meaning for 'good' is utterly unimportant.

coolcat said:

i dig that dean... dig it

Good music is definately a matter of taste and preference. If someone has bad enough taste to like what's all over the radio today, then yeah, there's plenty of good new music out there for them. If someone has good enough taste to dislike it, then no, there's nothing new that's good.