SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Tori is kind of a major hero in those circles, as she was one of the first women in popular music to really address the issue in song ("Me & a Gun" is based on a near-rape experience she had). She was also a major force behind RAINN, and has done tons to raise money for that organization.

sallysassalot said:

It took me quite a while to really get into that album, but now I love it. It was definitely a departure for her, but it grows on you with repeated listens.

Gangsta asked me to post these so here is the artwork for the discs I sent to both Supa and heartbeatocean:

Supplementary Notes


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discs

Live Recordings


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discs

sextonseven said:

heartbeatocean said:

I can't believe the both of us are experiencing the same thing!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I know!!! I've only made it through the second disc so far. What are your favorites?

heartbeatocean said:

Well I'm kind of a Tori virgin in training I posted a thread asking for suggestions and gangta suggested choirgirl.

Check my reaction and review here:

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/139226

I've been on the live disc and thought I should start there first before doing the studio stuff. I can't really say what my favorites are right now because I need to digest the lyrics and let it unfold on me. I'll be posting thoughts later tho

And finally, a remix disc I sent Supa:


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discs

Heartbeatocean, if you want this one too, let me know. I just didn't think at the time that you were a remix-type person.

More later...

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Yeah, it takes time for it all to sink in. But certain songs start to hit me one by one. That's how it started with Tori and me. Her songs just began to sink in, and then when they were in, I was like I haven't gotten to the live disc yet.

sextonseven said:

What is a remix-type person? Are they more danceable? It's okay, I have A LOT to chew on right now. But I might hit you up for it later!

heartbeatocean said:

The remixes, especially on the first disc, are VERY danceable--almost house music. I didn't think you were into that being a real musician and all.

sallysassalot said:

I think for many longtime fans, "The Beekeeper" was a major disappointment. This is kinda strange to me considering how much they embraced "Scarlet's Walk". The 2 albums aren't that dissimilar in sound and definitely are part of an era. "Beekeeper" might be a little funkier and all over the place, but the songs also stand out more. I think the major misconception is that it's a mellow, happy record.

sextonseven said:

A man after my own heart!

The artwork is gorgeous. That picture on the front of your b-sides is SO nice.

I like the order of the tracklists and the division of years. I do it the same way.

Did you send them the "Scarlet's Hidden Treasures" stuff too?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I only feel bad that I promised you both sets like these and never sent them out! It takes me so long to perfect and finish stuff like this.

But you're in good hands with Paris. He did a beautiful job on these.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

That was a fantastic thread, and I'm so glad you took my suggestion.

I probably would've started on the studio stuff first, but since you don't have the albums that all this single material comes from, I don't know if that matters. There's no right or wrong way to get into her, I've learned that much for sure.

And I know I've pimped these sites out a million times, but if you want to dig deep with her lyrics, check 'em out...

www.toriphoria.com

If you go to the album page of this one, it breaks it down with song titles and lyrics/quotes to go with each. It's HUGELY helpful even for a million year Tori fan like myself. Her songs are so loaded with metaphors and hidden meanings, that reading what she has be say about the songs is almost as good as listening. Love it.

www.hereinmyhead.com

This site has some similar information, but is also very useful. If you browse the lyrics section, it will give you recording information and quotes about each song.

Happy hunting!

GangstaFam said:

I know you wanted to be the one to do this but you were the one who even made it possible for me to even be open to her in the first place Besides, I'm eternally indebted to you for the PJ stuff

heartbeatocean said:

You must be totally tripping with all this new stuff to digest. It's like a parallel universe!

sextonseven said:

Now those are just fuckin' FLY! Love this. She should put something like this out in stores.

I've been trying to come up with something similar, but haven't been satisfied with my results yet. I'll try to post something soon.

And those pictures!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Aww. Thanks.

And I literally have like 50 CD's I would love to send you. I don't know how I'll ever get them done though!

sextonseven said:

I'm a dancing freak sometimes! Actually, in the mid-90's I was pretty a pretty serious student of hip hop dancing, who woulda thunk? I'm not sure how I'd feel about Tori songs remixed though.

GangstaFam said:

It's okay. Now I can jump into the b-side discussions with all you hardcore fans.

heartbeatocean said:

Me too!!!

GangstaFam said:

GangstaFam said:

I'm glad you like 'em.

I purposely wanted only concert photos for the live discs. And for the remix ones, I looked for pics of Tori NOT playing the piano since her playing was pretty much removed from most if not all the tracks.

In retrospect I probably should have sent 'Scarlet's Hidden Treasures' also, but I see that EP almost as another album instead of more b-sides. I love pretty much every song on that disc (much more that 'Scarlet's Walk' itself) and enjoy listening to it separately. At least this gives Supa and heartbeatocean an incentive to buy the 'Welcome To Sunny Florida' DVD now (which includes the EP).

heartbeatocean said:

Some are very ambient, others sound techno-ish. It's interesting to say the least.

(sigh) I love you guys! Kindred spirits, one and all!

I want in on the Tori love!

I'm too broke to buy the box sadly. I was reading pieces of her book last night...god that woman is a class motherfuckin act.

I also broke out "Choirgirl" for the first time in over a year..."Cruel" "iieee" and "Liquid Diamonds" are the shit.

And for people who didn't love the Beekeeper...what is up with you all? Her best record of the 00s, easily.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

She's one of the only artists I know who has nearly as many b-sides as she does album tracks. Crazy.

sextonseven said:

The DVD is nice. I love all the scenes in between too.

If you take everything from the EP, Scarlet's Web, the new songs from Tales, etc., you have a very nice album indeed.

And from what/when are the photos of your remix set?