I was just thinking back to when I was a kid how we had so much good music that even when you hear it today it still moves you and brings back memories. All we knew back then was Luther Vandross, Anita Baker, Stephanie Mills, Stevie Wonder,etc and rap music was SO much different back then than it is today. I wonder if the music we hear today will be remembered years later or is it here today, gone tomorrow so-to-speak! What do you guys think?

Heavensgirl said:

I don't believe so. It has been on a steady decline 4 years now. Of course u have legit artist still around but the Billboard 200 is littered with NON-musicians and talent LITE artist.

Through internet and mainly this digital era , music communication has drastically changed . Info is much more widely expanded over the web , and not anymore exclusively available on specific channels like MTV or at local musicshops , which was the main source in the 80's .
An iconic-era like in the 21rst century is not the concept that lives today so much anymore ( imo ) , apart from places like here , where those times are reminisced .


I feel we live now in the era where the new generation creates other heroes or subjects to focus on .
4 example , worldwide-spinning Dj's like Frankie Knuckles , Roger Sanchez , etc have become a new breed of idols .
From this era , i guess that Beyonce , JT and some others from the latest generations and who are quite some time in the industry now , supposely will be remembered mostly by the current generation .
And iconic-artists which have been releasing work through a few decades will be remembered no matter what .
Look at concerts from the Stones ( who started around the time of The Beatles ! ) and which still is visited by upcoming generations .


So my conclusion is that depending on artists' longevity in the industry , will probably result in how much they are remembered .
If MySpace and YouTube hopefully will win the lame acquisations ( sorry 4 the grammar ) , from You-no-versal , then there lies a new future for music .
.
.
.
[Edited 9/15/06 14:55pm]

It's too early to tell.

But I think the question will (largely) be answered by today's kids, who will become the arbiters of taste, and what qualifies as a "classic," years from now.

If "today" means this decade, I think there's enough good music released over the last several years that will not "grow old" and will connect with audiences years from now.

No.

Uh...in a word,NO

Today's pop music is like fast food....completely disposable and forgettable.People are still listening to Motown and the Beatles,but it's hard to imagine a song like "My Humps" having that same longterm impact

SoulAlive said:

if a song like "supersonic" by jjfad lasted then my humps will.

well that is a silly question really....i mean music means as much to kids today as it did to us...or still does to us....there is tons more ways for it to be heard so that is a good thing.....but try getting kids to read and write when all they really want to do is play video games, text message each other and surf the web.....handwriting is a lost art....times are changing but music will still be around....and there will always be great stuff out there....but as you get older, it seems like things are getting worse but that is just because you are getting older and have less energy, time or money to spend searching for the music that is out there....

pkidwell said:

It's not really a good example maybe , but i know some radiostations with a group of dj's , aged from their 20's till 50's , who are eagerly busy to explore what's out there

SoulAlive said:

You got that right SoulAlive.

Since styles haven't changed in 15 years and people have lowered their standards to accept it, I would say it has already left it's legacy.

kisscamille said:

Not 2 mention the high percentage of downloads. Media like hard drives are contantly deleting, updating, and being replaced. A lot of this stuff won't LAST simple because it's now really "owned" in a traditional sense. Ipods and the like seem 2 play right into the disposable FACTOR.

As far as most of it goes, God I hope not!

I hope that 20 years from now I don't hear Fergie's "London Bridge" and get all misty-eyed.






edit to say that soulalive beat me to it
[Edited 9/18/06 12:33pm]

Shit doesn't stink for very long, so no...its legacy won't last.

Well the easiest way to dispute this thread will be people saying oh youre getting old and just hatin on youth. Not true, the music i listen to is just as widespread as anyone, younger artists, older, different genres. But at the end of the day, you look at it all and say some things are just better and thats it. Alot of the music today is geared to a public that does not want things different, manily because labels want $$ they dont want artists. Not to say that didnt go on in other era's but i say it again "the drastic change took shape when soundscan became the way to judge music". Sure there have been charts forever, but now its all about what can u bring in week one, and how can i hype you up. I did music retail for a long time so i saw all these changes close up, towards the end of my time with music, i had people come in and look at new releases and then ask me "what are people buying" and then "buying it" because everyone else did, no offense but are you just "sheep", then of course there would be the judging by people "did it go platnum", then its not good. This is mainly why i got out of the music, because i found myself hating people so much, mainly because they were just buying music because they want what their friends have got, and that is how EVERY label thinks when its promoting an artist towards the public. Labels dont want you to think about anything, they are gonna feed you what they think you want. For an era that prides itself on being "rebelious" its nothing near that, so looking back on these times, you will have to wait at least 20 years to be fair, but looking at it now, its not a very diverse musical time, though there are more ways to obtain it.

Hard to say. Not much has made a real impact on society.

Eminem has caused a stir I guess. Tupac has already lasted 10 years. Radiohead, the White Stripes are good.

But I think the late 1990's and early 2000's will be remembered as one of the most superficial times in recent history.

NDRU said:

Yeah, I can think of loads of great music from about 7-10 years ago, but anymore recent than that?

no

minneapolisgenius said:

I love the White Stripes and Badly Drawn Boy, but their music could have been done 30 years ago. I can't think of stuff that really represents the times that is good. Maybe Eminem, but he's more style over substance.
[Edited 9/18/06 12:53pm]

minneapolisgenius said:

IMO - it's not so much the recent music that sucks, but the newer artists that suck. I love the new Dylan, recent music from U2, the Stones, RHCP, Outkast etc, etc. For me, it's shit like BEP, Britney, Danity Kane (wtf) and many other newer artists that just plain suck big time. Most true/real musicians still put out decent music.

NDRU said:

Eminem sounds like Big Bird gone into a PCP rage though.

minneapolisgenius said:

but he's pretty good at what he does.

He needs some subject matter beyond "I'm so crazy," or "I love my daughter," or "My mom's a bitch," though.

NDRU said:

He just grates on my last nerve.

minneapolisgenius said:

yeah, I'm not really a fan either.

I guess I've listened enough to know he has talent though. His rhymes are very well crafted. And it's music of the times, at least.

nope

I have 45s that would run circles around Clear Channel's playlists.

Yes, it will have a lasting legacy.

As being complete utter shit.

minneapolisgenius said:

I understand, MinnieG, I do.

But Em is already being considered among great artists of all time (albeit by dubious listings by dubious music publications). I think he and others will be revered as the years go on.

Since when was this an Eminem thread? Meshelle Ndegeocello, Mars Volta, Raconteurs, Queens of the Stone Age, Kings of Leon, Outkast, Ween, TV on the Radio, Beck, Sufjan Stevens, Common, The Roots, etc. I know I'm missing a lot but these are just a few of the acts making great music these days. Will they leave a lasting legacy? Some already have.

pkidwell said:

Yes, Outkast & Beck (the lasting legacy part, I'm not saying the others are bad)