Rhondab said:

Wait a second. I thought LL Cool J help put a stop to that men wearing mascara & pumps after the 1985 release of Rock The Bell!

TonyVanDam said:

I don't know...I just that is the best assessment of the 80's though....

thekidsgirl said:

Well take a look at Justin on the cover of the disc....those shoes are women's shoes!

VinnyM27 said:

Did Lance Bass put Justin up to that?

sallysassalot said:

co sign. except for the hype - i got the hype about black sweat but IMO sexyback is just better

vainandy said:

no man there will ALWAYS be whores

Black Sweat was an ok song but it was nothing earth shattering. I dont think the public will be as interested in what Prince does unless he makes a record that is undeniably earth shattering again. If he keeps making poor or simply "ok" records, they will continue to be disinterested. This really has nothing to do w/ JT. JT can make an "ok" song and sell platinum because kids will buy it.

Ya know this is going to sound very odd, but Prince had his day in the sun--just like Eric Clapton, Sting, Robert Plant, Stevie Wonder... well you know what I mean--lol

I'm not sure if Prince is ever going to sell like he did when he first came on the scene. But ya know what? Prince has respect. From what I've read so many people respect him. Well Justin apparently respects him or he wouldn't be ripping him off. (I digress! )

I don't begrudge young, up-coming artists their day in the sun. I'm not a fan of Justin Timberlake--mainly because I just don't think the guy is creative on his own. Sure, Prince was influenced by other people, but Prince took the best of those artists and created something unique--all by himself. I just don't think that Justin is even on the same level as Prince or Michael Jackson.

Anyway, I've only heard snippets of Justin's Sexyback, but I can tell ya I love "Black Sweat." So I'm going with Prince. I'll always go with Prince because Prince is truly an artist, no matter his age. I wonder if anyone will still be talking about Justin when his 50?

Folks here keep saying things like people aren't interested in what Prince is doing today and his day in the sun has come and gone. My response to these comments are this: How can people be interested in what Prince is doing if they don't even know that he's got something new out there to begin with? Even with MTV and all the other video stations out there, loads of people STILL listen to the radio and airplay is mostly what determines whether a song is a hit and with the airplay, comes the album sales. You don't have airplay, you won't get sales. If Prince was still getting the same kind of airplay he was getting 15 years ago today when Gett Off was the new single for the then upcoming CD Diamonds And Pearls (which became a hit, thanks in part to the radio), he'd still be a smash. If it can happen for Madonna (even with her airplay decreasing) it can happen for Prince too. My thing is, it should be fair but it isn't and it's dead wrong. Justin AND Prince should be able to co-exist on the same radio station. Let the kids get a chance to hear where Justin got his "sexy" from.
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purplecam said:

People know, they're just not interested. People who like old school artists usually look for new releases by them. Black Sweat got heavy rotation on BET and VH-1 Soul. Its not a rock song, so its not gonna get complimentary airplay on rock stations. People knew. Just be honest and call it what it is. Lack of interest. Justin has massive interest but I'm not feeling that soulless crap he's doing. With all of the music that's available, and the internet being an incredible tool, there's no reason not to find music you like other than laziness.

Moonwalkbjrain said:

are you serious?

purplecam said:

I agree. I didn't mean to sound so passive and compliant. I guess what I was trying to say is that Prince just doesn't need to prove anything because the guy is so great. But that doesn't mean radio stations should just disregard his music-- or that he should be taken for granted??

A lot of kids are mesmorized by Prince and artists even from an different era than he. No.. You are absolutely correct. There is no reason why radio stations shouldn't have played "Black Sweat."

We fans might need to requesting Prince a bit more--sort of more assertively getting behind his projects. Maybe we should start requesting his songs more on the radio? I'm real serious.
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BlaqueKnight said:

Who said Prince fans aren't content with what's up? My thing is that Prince or anyone over 40 who's making music for Top 40 radio should be able to still get airplay on the radio, especially if they helped make radio what it is today. When I was a kid 20 years ago, they played anyone who was making hot music and it shouldn't be any different today. The truth is what it is but it shouldn't be this way. I shouldn't have to go to the internet to find new music but now it's almost a requirement to do so now. I personally don't like it but what can I do?

BK you mentioned lack of interest and that is the case for some people but when I have a case where my co-worker asked me the other day if Prince was still alive that proves to me that there are people out there who don't know what Prince is doing now. Sure, Black Sweat got lots of airplay on the video stations and if you were lucky to catch it during the 5 or 6 hours that they play videos, then you definetly saw it but people still listen to the radio getting ready for work, on the way from work/school and coming home from both. While what you said was true, what I said was just as valid.

People also say the song wasn't that good. Well so is 90% of what's on radio today so that doesn't mean shit anymore. That's why I hope he does the Super Bowl this year cause it will force EVERYONE to remember who Prince is but that's for another topic.

TonyVanDam said:



because Justin is a sexy young 20-something working with a very successful, hot producer and is willing to let a record company promote him without throwing fits about it or waging war on them?

purplecam said:

Prince had his day. It's done now. Get over it.

BlaqueKnight said:

But wouldn't it be fun to try?

I've noticed that so many of the younger artists really have this fanbase-getting behind them on the internet. Well not even younger artists: look at Michael Jackson and his fans. Boy they really know how to get behind him in certain situations.

I know where to find Prince's music--frankly I don't care if he has a hit or not. But sometimes I do think we fans sort of take some of these artist for granted because they have been around for a while, and will automatically have a hit just because we think the music is good.

For some reason, this time around Prince didn't seem to be in the mood to promote 3121 like he did Musicology. Maybe the guy is tired of the drugery of promoting? Yeah.. I know about his marital problems, but the guy does deserve the chance to live his life.

I don't think it means a damn thing whether or not the guy has a hit, but I do agree that the kids nowadays might be interested. You'd be surprised. A friend of mine's daughter loves classic rock--she's just starting Middle School and she NEVER listens to artists in the mainstream. (Right now she's into the Doors???) When I was teaching, my husband and I took some of my students on a field trip, and they wanted to listen to the Beatles, Prince along with some other more obsure but popular bands not on Billboards charts. I was shocked.

So yeah, we can find Prince, but it would also be cool to get him out there as well. I know it takes a lot of effort, and we don't have the time to that like when we didn't have as many responsibilities. But it would be fun just to give it shot now and again.

TonyVanDam said:

i dont think its the public but the media that hates any artist over 35 because they just dont get the airplay...but let them keep going with thier bias because record sales are getting worse and worse and the clueless record companies can't figure out why

lastdecember said:

finally somebody who gets it! heh soundscan changed music in a BIG way things havent been the same since 91 when billboard switched

TonyVanDam said:

All SexyBack is, Is some House Music. It'll be forgotten about in a year.

Tessa said:

When was Prince ever throwing fits during his promotion of the album 3121?

BlaqueKnight said:

now this is true

but I don't know if ppl really got to get into Black Sweat as much as you think. When I had it on my myspace, I received a huge response from ppl that didn't know prince had a new song out but they did LOVE it.


Its just interesting that when most of us were teens, Tina Turner came back at 45ish and we loved it. There was no talk of her age etc.

different times for sure.

Rhondab said:

This is VERY true. The youth of today have been conditioned and institutionalized in this way. I've explained it a zillion times before so I'm not going to repeat myself. The "Logan's Run rule" applies now more than ever in the music biz.
Fans that don't understand why a company won't sink money into promoting Prince back into the pop world don't understand the business.

BlaqueKnight said:

I'll admit, I don't understand the business. I understand what you are saying though. I guess I'm just a dreamer.

I felt the same way when Duran Duran released "Astronaut" in 2004.

It got very little radio support, yet all these 80's inspired groups such as The Killers,Franz Ferdinand and Scissor Sisters were getting all the attention.

Bullsh*t!!!!

TonyVanDam said:

Did he put those shoes up Lance Bass...What?

Rhondab said:

And this right here backs up what I said earlier in the thread. More people didn't have a chance to hear BS than did and that's a shame. The system may have it set up for someone over 40 not to be able to have their music played on the radio but does that make it right? I wish there was a way for us to fight this. A man can dream right?

TonyVanDam said:

The fact that he's hardly promoted it at all speaks to that, I'd say.

Damn right! Fuck 'em!

You know it! I just wish I had been a little older and out of the closet at the time so I could have really enjoyed myself.