You have to be kidding, it's so damn contrived.

PunchDrunk said:

I agree. Even if you don't particularly care for something that Prince is doing at a certain time, you cannot deny the artistry of it. Prince has always taken risks - like a true artist. It isn't always about topping the charts or selling albums with him. He is actually an artist who isn't afraid to follow his muse whether folks get it or not. JT is too busy trying to sell records and convince people that he is cool and sexy to take chances artistically. So a result he releases soul-less, nondescript, contrived music that is the byproduct of him seeking the hottest producers to help propel him up the charts.



Yes, some people, especially on the org, are NEVER satisfied.



Thank you. Who is JT as an artist, what is his voice, what is his sound? There is NOTHING unique, remarkable or compelling about him. He's just another lame music industry commodity. He doesn't have a Rainbow Children inside him.

bellanoche said:

Well said.

Rhondab said:

I'm not getting into the "rehashing" argument tonight, and you're right, but again, that's not the point.

We don't necessarily know what the kids are saying. Some of'em think Usher's a genius, if only because the MJ we knew and loved might as well be dead he so unrecognizeable.

Remember, I'm avoiding comparisons. What I'm saying it's unfair to continually compare music of subsequent generations to legendary music of decades past.

My mother brought Thriller and Purple Rain home for me. Mothers across the country are bringing JT's album home for their kids, who may not even bother to listen to a Prince or MJ album for years down the line.

namepeace said:

And some of those mothers actually like the music, as well as all the other pop music of today. I know my Mom dug a lot of the music we listened to growing up...Prince, almost everything New Jack Swing, and a lot of the rap music of the 80's and 90's. I don't know...maybe she just heard it all so much she couldn't help but to like it.

I find it ironic that a person calling themselves "Truefunksoldier" is gaga over Justin Timberlake.

It helps me to understand why I've had to defend Elvis these past 2 days. But Elvis had style at least, I don't think Justin has anything except mediocrity. He's adequate at best.

Sorry, that sounds really mean.

SoulAlive said:

Preach it SoulAlive!

That's what I can't stand about JT. I hear ALL his influences but I never hear Justin on his records. I have enjoyed his music but this is what stops me from being a fan. When Justin shows us who he really is, then I might be able to get with him and might is the key word here.
[Edited 9/14/06 16:22pm]

purplecam said:

That's the problem. I've been defending Elvis because I think he had style, and what he did seemed real natural to him. Justin seems like he's posing. His music persona doesn't seem like the real Justin.

And it's not just about a white guy doing black music, I think Alicia Keyes is fake too.

I should add that if Justin did somehow actually do the greatest soul album ever, I'd buy it and become a fan, I just don't see that happening.
[Edited 9/14/06 16:39pm]

truefunksoldier said:

please upload it or pass me a link so I can hear it for myself, without buying the album. If I like it I will get the album..

maybe

Ok.....I tried 2 re-listen 2 JT's new cd today. I have no idea what u guys r talking about. This cd is WEAK as hell. I don't get it.

Graycap23 said:

You're very giving. It would take a lot more to get me to listen to it voluntarily!

SoulAlive said:

Yeahhhhh!!

PunchDrunk said:

Don't throw in the towel just yet! I hear a few of em saying how ridiculous music is nowadays...so maybe there is still hope!...but than again some did say they were feeling SexyBack!! Go figure!!

I finally heard a snippet of "Damn Girl" on iTunes. Sounds like Prince in the studio with Quincy Jones recording Off The Dirty Mind.

"Black Sweat" to me has a superior hook. But hey, that's only off 30 seconds.
[Edited 9/15/06 12:15pm]

I heard the snippets from allmusic. Until The End Of Time is very prince like, I miss hearing Prince doing his drums like that. Its like you heard the drums and you knew it was Prince.

namepeace said:

tonyat said:

I SO agree with this!

I just heard Damn girl.... that song sucks!!!!

http://www.xsao.net/index...tist=17999

ya'll can check the cd here along with other stuff.

truefunksoldier said:

so you want prince to do prince AGAIN...

Prince no longer has to prove himself. He's established, he's been around 30 years...what else.

Let's talk about Justin in just 10 years if we can even remember his name.

What is Justin without his producers? Justins first cd is the better of the two because he wasn't trying to be someone else...OH wait..yes he was...that was his Michael Jackson cd I guess Madonna is next.
[Edited 9/17/06 6:40am]

NDRU said:

I'm so with you on that.

Rhondab said:

You speakin the truth right there Rhondab!

if JT put out 3121, it would be viewed as "a breakthrough cd--a defining moment in his career"-
if prince put out futuresexy, he'd be viewed as "trying to rehash what he did 20 years with disappointing results"

wasn't he chanelling stevie 2 years ago, and mj 2 years before that? i guess he'll be chanelling ne-yo for his next cd.

Fury said:

All too true

truefunksoldier said:

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It is bad when you can't add your own element to the mix. Which Prince did when he developed the Minn Sound. Justin has not developed anything new by just copying what P has been doing over the last 25 years.

Using P's band members.

Doing small club shows.

Come on

laurarichardson said:

Exactly.

I asked one of the JT defenders to explain to me who JT is as an individual artist. I never got answer, just a picture of JT throwing up the middle finger to the paparazzi.