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Thread started 09/14/06 12:16pm

Harlepolis

I NEVER Get Tired Of This Clip!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...WtUzdI5hlE

Its saddens me that young people(esp young black people) are slowly 4getting about her.
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Reply #1 posted 09/14/06 12:30pm

NDRU

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Nice! That look on Armstrong's face in the beginning is great.

I understand how people can't relate to stuff of this generation, what with the tuxedos and huge smiles (something Miles Davis hated) and all, but the beauty of the art is really lacking today.

Not that there's no talent today, but the aesthetic has changed from beauty to cool. The restraints (not being allowed to be completely pornographic on record, for example) on entertainment made people creative.

It's easy to entertain when you can just have half-naked women in your video (or be half naked yourself), but when you had to sing/play it was different.
[Edited 9/14/06 12:31pm]
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Reply #2 posted 09/14/06 12:30pm

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Nice clip of Lady Day and Pops.

What's even sadder is the fact that you'd have to know about them in the first place before you could even forget. confused


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Reply #3 posted 09/14/06 12:44pm

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NDRU said:

It's easy to entertain when you can just have half-naked women in your video (or be half naked yourself), but when you had to sing/play it was different.


No sequencers, drum machines or backing tracks to hide the fact that you had no talent.
And yes you had to be able to play and you had to be able to sing.

confuse WTF happened? (rhetorical of course) cool

Wouldn't it be a hoot if everyone (present day) that considered becoming a musician/singer/songwriter/producer had to be transported back to the '30s first. If they were able to make a living, then they'd be transported back to the present.

hmmm Wonder what the survival percentage would be?


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Reply #4 posted 09/14/06 12:50pm

Harlepolis

NDRU said:

Nice! That look on Armstrong's face in the beginning is great.

I understand how people can't relate to stuff of this generation, what with the tuxedos and huge smiles (something Miles Davis hated)


Ya know,,,it took me a great deal of time to really appreciate Satchmo. Just like the rest of the black youth, all that grinning, sweating and shuffling ought to ring an "ugly image" we're trying to block out and 4get.

But his body of work speak for its self(esp his time with Earl Hines).

Now Lady biggrin that was one TOUGH proud dignified sista, from the jump street. Nobody missed with that woman, black, white or in-between.

I never get sick of hearing her story when she wiped that navy's solider on the street then stepped on him for calling her a 'darkie wench', and by the time the police arrived, she put on her most girly act and said "he hasseld me" lol
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Reply #5 posted 09/14/06 12:56pm

Harlepolis

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What's even sadder is the fact that you'd have to know about them in the first place before you could even forget.


Hell!

I saw this girl singing "God Bless The Child" in Starbucks, I approached her and said "You dig this song, don't you now?", she said "Oh I love it", "Do you know who sang it?", "Oh I don't know, just heard it in American Idol by Katherine(4got her last name)", "Its by Billie Holiday", "Oh you mean, that Diana Ross lady?".

What could I say after that? neutral
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Reply #6 posted 09/14/06 1:15pm

NDRU

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Harlepolis said:

NDRU said:

Nice! That look on Armstrong's face in the beginning is great.

I understand how people can't relate to stuff of this generation, what with the tuxedos and huge smiles (something Miles Davis hated)


Ya know,,,it took me a great deal of time to really appreciate Satchmo. Just like the rest of the black youth, all that grinning, sweating and shuffling ought to ring an "ugly image" we're trying to block out and 4get.

But his body of work speak for its self(esp his time with Earl Hines).

Now Lady biggrin that was one TOUGH proud dignified sista, from the jump street. Nobody missed with that woman, black, white or in-between.

I never get sick of hearing her story when she wiped that navy's solider on the street then stepped on him for calling her a 'darkie wench', and by the time the police arrived, she put on her most girly act and said "he hasseld me" lol
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Billie Holiday could probably be a star today without changing her style at all.

Louis gets underappreciated by some because of that stuff you're talking about. But those folks don't hear how incredible his playing was, I guess they see him as a caricature because of his style of performing.

Maybe, but I think it takes character first in order to become a caricature. There's no denying he had a lot of style.
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Reply #7 posted 09/14/06 1:28pm

100MPH

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Almost never saw her in a color-pic eek


rose rose
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Reply #8 posted 09/14/06 1:36pm

Harlepolis

Actualy, that color pic is a WAXED portrait of her lol you got tricked.

But here's a couple of pix from her(including a colored one for your eyes only cool ):



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And the infamous long Ebony 1949 interivew:
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Reply #9 posted 09/14/06 1:41pm

CinisterCee

theAudience said:


Wouldn't it be a hoot if everyone (present day) that considered becoming a musician/singer/songwriter/producer had to be transported back to the '30s first. If they were able to make a living, then they'd be transported back to the present.

hmmm Wonder what the survival percentage would be?



lol!
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Reply #10 posted 09/14/06 1:45pm

100MPH

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Harlepolis said:

Actualy, that color pic is a WAXED portrait of her lol you got tricked.

But here's a couple of pix from her(including a colored one for your eyes only cool ):



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And the infamous long Ebony 1949 interivew:

GREAT!
What was that interview about ?
I'm not anknowledged with that .
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Reply #11 posted 09/14/06 1:51pm

Harlepolis

That interview was after she got out of jail(for possessing drugs).

They made her out to be a "woman who finally seeked redemption" which isn't true.

She was STILL living the fast life during that interview(and was linked to a gangster who had connections with the mop then, who used her as a punching bag, as if her addiction wasn't enough).

The main DRAG was they focused on her drug use(as opposed to her WHOLE persona and most importantly, her music).

People are still obsessed with her "drug tales".
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Reply #12 posted 09/14/06 1:59pm

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Harlepolis said:

That interview was after she got out of jail(for possessing drugs).

They made her out to be a "woman who finally seeked redemption" which isn't true.

She was STILL living the fast life during that interview(and was linked to a gangster who had connections with the mop then, who used her as a punching bag, as if her addiction wasn't enough).

The main DRAG was they focused on her drug use(as opposed to her WHOLE persona and most importantly, her music).
People are still obsessed with her "drug tales".


That is also something people tend to dwell on here.....the personal lives of the artists instead of their talent.....(to wit, some of the threads on Miles, Sly, James Brown, Whitney Houston, etc.).

Both Satchmo and Billy are two of my all-time favorites...I grew up listening to their music and still do....

Thanks for the clip, Harlepolis...you made my day!

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Reply #13 posted 09/14/06 2:02pm

100MPH

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Harlepolis said:

That interview was after she got out of jail(for possessing drugs).

They made her out to be a "woman who finally seeked redemption" which isn't true.

She was STILL living the fast life during that interview(and was linked to a gangster who had connections with the mop then, who used her as a punching bag, as if her addiction wasn't enough).

The main DRAG was they focused on her drug use(as opposed to her WHOLE persona and most importantly, her music).

People are still obsessed with her "drug tales".

Thanx for that background Harlepolis .
I just googled her for those pics i posted , and saw one there where she walks out a door with her head a little bowed , looking sad .
She has her dog with her ... you know if that was taken on the day she got out of the jail ?
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Reply #14 posted 09/14/06 3:59pm

babynoz

theAudience said:

NDRU said:

It's easy to entertain when you can just have half-naked women in your video (or be half naked yourself), but when you had to sing/play it was different.


No sequencers, drum machines or backing tracks to hide the fact that you had no talent.
And yes you had to be able to play and you had to be able to sing.

confuse WTF happened? (rhetorical of course) cool

Wouldn't it be a hoot if everyone (present day) that considered becoming a musician/singer/songwriter/producer had to be transported back to the '30s first. If they were able to make a living, then they'd be transported back to the present.

hmmm Wonder what the survival percentage would be?


tA

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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431




LOL...I wish we could do it in the present day. Just unplug everything and tell 'em to go for it. If they can't hang, boot 'em out the door!
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 09/15/06 9:26am

Harlepolis

100MPH said:

Harlepolis said:

That interview was after she got out of jail(for possessing drugs).

They made her out to be a "woman who finally seeked redemption" which isn't true.

She was STILL living the fast life during that interview(and was linked to a gangster who had connections with the mop then, who used her as a punching bag, as if her addiction wasn't enough).

The main DRAG was they focused on her drug use(as opposed to her WHOLE persona and most importantly, her music).

People are still obsessed with her "drug tales".

Thanx for that background Harlepolis .
I just googled her for those pics i posted , and saw one there where she walks out a door with her head a little bowed , looking sad .
She has her dog with her ... you know if that was taken on the day she got out of the jail ?


That was during her arrest in 1956 nod(for the same reason).
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