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Reply #90 posted 09/13/06 10:28am

funkpill

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funkpill said:




So instead of him being called The King Of Rock And Roll,


should he be called The King Of Rock And Roll, According To White Folks?? hmmm


Yea.. lol The only people I hear call him the King of Rock and Roll are white folks.




And black folks call him that in a sarcastic manner lol
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Reply #91 posted 09/13/06 1:30pm

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Elvis is one of the greatest telents in popular music. He had an amazing voice and was a billiant live peformer.

Music wise, I think he has a patchy collection of songs. Some of his song are among the greatest of all times, yet most of his songs were eaither dull or tacky.

I feel that a lot of people see Elvis as the greatest because he was the first hughly successful pop star of the new Rock'N'Roll era of the 1950's. There is no deny that Elvis was the most influncial star of artist in the early years of popular music. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan etc where all in some way influnced by Elvis, and I guess because Elvis was the "First" he kind of set a template that's pop stars in the 2000's. But being the first doesn't mean being the greatest or most influencial.

Elvis wasn't a songwriter, many of his most famous songs were cover versions. To me Michael Jackson, David Bowie and Prince are the 3 ultimate talents of all time in music. The have brilliant voices and are amazing live artists, but also write there own songs. Many artists from Elvis to Justin Timberlake (a co-writer) don't have that wide range of talents, so Elvis to me isn't even among my top 10 artist dispite the fact I think he is an Icon and deserves a lot of respect.


Elvis was "the King of Rock 'N Roll' because he was the first true icon of rock. He was a great live performer and great musician. Before you get all pissed at me and say that he stole from black musicians and such, I'm just gonna say that he most certainly wasn't the only person making great rock 'n roll during that time; (besides all the forementioned black artists like Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Bo Diddley, B.B. King, and even Muddy Waters, don't forget his fellow white contemporaries Buddy Holly and Jerry Lee Lewis), but he was the first major rock 'n roll artist to be widely accepted and loved by the masses. Remember that during Elvis' time, most people thought rock 'n roll was devil music, and even among those who liked it, many were more into doo wop artists than the original black artists or ever the white rockabilly artists. In fact, until The Beatles came to America, there weren't any other rock 'n roll artists who would have such a huge following.

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Reply #92 posted 09/13/06 1:34pm

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I simply can't get into his stuff....but I have respect for him
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Reply #93 posted 09/13/06 2:38pm

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The "King" title is annoying, just as it is for Michael. I hate the concept of kings, like they're better than the rest of us.

And I don't expect anyone to love Elvis, or really care if they do or not.

But I don't like blaming someone for loving a particular kind of music and doing it well. It hurts me personally, because I'm a white musician who loves funk & r&b, along with rock & jazz. I've played with rappers, I've played jazz, I've played funk, I've played rock & roll. Should I not do that? Do I have to play country or classical?
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Reply #94 posted 09/13/06 5:25pm

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As a kid I loved Elvis. I can still watch his corny ass movies. That said, the whole King of Rock and Roll thing is an INSULT 2 all the is RIGHT in the music world. It's just a FLAT out fabrication.


A lot of the things Elvis is criticized for were the Colonel's idea's. The King of Rock n Roll title, the awful movies, the "borrowing" of black songs even.

What some people either don't realize or choose to ignore in all this is that Elvis, especially earlier in his career, had little to nothing to do with the decision making process.
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Reply #95 posted 09/13/06 5:31pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

thesexofit said:

He was not a racist and infact, he even said he basically "stole" what people like chuck, ike etc.. were doing. So he did fully acknoledge this. He also never called himself the king of rock n roll. Chuck was wrong calling him a racist. John wayne on the other hand.....



But Elvis grew up in the Jim Crow South, so who knows how he really felt about black folks, deep down?

Didn't he say blacks should buy his records and shine his shoes?


That quote's an urban myth. It's amazing what crap people will believe if it reinforces their viewpoint, especially about race.


As for the infamous catfish comment, he really did say that one. Whether that was meant as racist or not I can't tell you, but what I can is that Elvis shared that dinner of catfish with his backup singers that evening. He would've had nasty catfish breath too. shrug
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Reply #96 posted 09/13/06 5:47pm

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I don't buy that King of Rock n Roll title. Not because others deserved it more than him, but because he never thought of himself as the King. That was all spin courtesy of Col. Parker. Different big names of the time contributed different things to popular music, all coming together to create, for better or worse, what came after. Elvis happened to be the most popular, most succesful of the bunch. Part of this was because he was white. That can't be denied. But it was also because he was good looking, had a great voice, and had a charismatic stage presence. If his race was the sole deciding factor in him being the "King", Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis and other white performers would've shared equal status. But it wasn't that simple.




sidenote: Isn't it interesting how similar Colonel Parker and Lou Pearlman are, when you look into it? From their managerial style and tactics to their physical appearance. It's a little creepy.
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Reply #97 posted 09/13/06 7:06pm

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NDRU said:



It's funny because obviously I know what you're saying, but Elvis doesn't sound a thing like Chuck, Richard, or Jackie Wilson to me.

And (for better or worse) that rock & roll thing was just a small part of Elvis' career. I don't think Little Richard & Chuck Berry influenced "It's Now or Never or "Viva Las Vegas" or "If I Can Dream" or "Suspicious Minds" or the cape & rhinestone karate thing--like I say for better or worse--Elvis had a lot of his own style.


shrug

Yep, he got his own style, alright. His own style of snatching up,,,,and apparently, he was good at it.

Look, more power to whoever digs him(for the SAME reason folks dig Justin Temberfake).

EVERYBODY knows the real deal, some except it and some block it out. All fine by me.


See, some people don't get Elvis (whether you like him or not is not germaine, but I think "getting" him is) because they simply don't understand America. The South has only been segregated in the last 100+ years. When we think of the Civil Rights movement and the different water fountains and all that shit, that only happened post-Reconstruction. Things were extremely fucked up PRIOR to Reconstruction - do NOT misunderstand me - but they were not SEGREGATED to anywhere NEAR the extent that they were say from the 1880s onward. In the Northern United States, however, things were racially segregated just about from DAY ONE. The North was never really NOT segregated. In fact, despite everything you've ever heard about segreation and the South, the real truth is that the North has experienced far more segregation and racial separation historically than has the South. And you must understand this to understand Elvis.

Blacks and whites in the South - far, far more than blacks and whites in the North - have always had what could not unreasonably be called a common southern culture. Elvis was a bonafide true blue part of this culture. As was James Brown. When James Brown called Elvis his brother, he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about, and implying James was a token for embracing Elvis in this familial way is something you might wish to think about before doing again publicly. In Elvis' day you could find lily white churches in the Mississippi Delta as off-the-chain sanctified as any black church because sanctified holy-roller churches are a Southern thing. They are not a black thing. A northerner, such as lifelong New Yorker Chuck D, CANNOT understand such a thing. To him and those who think like him cultural commonalities between black and white Southerners can only = theft. But it is absolutlely not theft. It is a common culture. And Chuck thinks this way not because he lacks intelligence but because he lacks perspective. As a New Yorker, the nuances of Southern life and Southern history are simply outside of his reality. But they are very real. And believe me when I tell you that Southerners like B.B. King and James Brown, they sure as fuck understand the deal and when they praise Elvis to the high heavens they damn sure ain't tommin'. The South might as well be a different country from the North. Despite the slavery and segregation and all that went down in the South, blacks and whites are still more like family in how they commonly relate to the world there than anywhere else in America. That is a cultural fact. Elvis is the proof. Now I realize this fact annoys some people to no end, because some people want life to be simple when like it or not its always complex.
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Reply #98 posted 09/13/06 8:15pm

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He was the most popular, best-selling, which is why I think any artist is called King of anything.
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Reply #99 posted 09/13/06 9:31pm

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Things were extremely fucked up PRIOR to Reconstruction - do NOT misunderstand me - but they were not SEGREGATED to anywhere NEAR the extent that they were say from the 1880s onward. In the Northern United States, however, things were racially segregated just about from DAY ONE. The North was never really NOT segregated. In fact, despite everything you've ever heard about segreation and the South, the real truth is that the North has experienced far more segregation and racial separation historically than has the South. Jim Crow was everywhere.



On this point, you're preaching to the choir. As a lifelong New Yorker(with lots of family down South), I know all about Northern hypocrisy. Sh!t, the worst race riots in American history took place in NYC. According to the census, it's the third highest segregated area(in regards to housing & schools) in the U.S, behind Detroit & Milwaukee. I saw it growing up. Chuck & I saw it when we went to college together in lily-white Garden City, Long Island. I'm not letting the South off the hook, but there's just as much racial hatred here.
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Reply #100 posted 09/13/06 9:33pm

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darkstranger521 said:

Harlepolis said:



shrug

Yep, he got his own style, alright. His own style of snatching up,,,,and apparently, he was good at it.

Look, more power to whoever digs him(for the SAME reason folks dig Justin Temberfake).

EVERYBODY knows the real deal, some except it and some block it out. All fine by me.


See, some people don't get Elvis (whether you like him or not is not germaine, but I think "getting" him is) because they simply don't understand America. The South has only been segregated in the last 100+ years. When we think of the Civil Rights movement and the different water fountains and all that shit, that only happened post-Reconstruction. Things were extremely fucked up PRIOR to Reconstruction - do NOT misunderstand me - but they were not SEGREGATED to anywhere NEAR the extent that they were say from the 1880s onward. In the Northern United States, however, things were racially segregated just about from DAY ONE. The North was never really NOT segregated. In fact, despite everything you've ever heard about segreation and the South, the real truth is that the North has experienced far more segregation and racial separation historically than has the South. And you must understand this to understand Elvis.

Blacks and whites in the South - far, far more than blacks and whites in the North - have always had what could not unreasonably be called a common southern culture. Elvis was a bonafide true blue part of this culture. As was James Brown. When James Brown called Elvis his brother, he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about, and implying James was a token for embracing Elvis in this familial way is something you might wish to think about before doing again publicly. In Elvis' day you could find lily white churches in the Mississippi Delta as off-the-chain sanctified as any black church because sanctified holy-roller churches are a Southern thing. They are not a black thing. A northerner, such as lifelong New Yorker Chuck D, CANNOT understand such a thing. To him and those who think like him cultural commonalities between black and white Southerners can only = theft. But it is absolutlely not theft. It is a common culture. And Chuck thinks this way not because he lacks intelligence but because he lacks perspective. As a New Yorker, the nuances of Southern life and Southern history are simply outside of his reality. But they are very real. And believe me when I tell you that Southerners like B.B. King and James Brown, they sure as fuck understand the deal and when they praise Elvis to the high heavens they damn sure ain't tommin'. The South might as well be a different country from the North. Despite the slavery and segregation and all that went down in the South, blacks and whites are still more like family in how they commonly relate to the world there than anywhere else in America. That is a cultural fact. Elvis is the proof. Now I realize this fact annoys some people to no end, because some people want life to be simple when like it or not its always complex.


Bravo clapping although I would amend what you've said to say that the south experienced the worst and best extremes in race relations. The south hosted the most pronounced inter racial fraternity and friendship, and also the most bitter racism and strife.
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Reply #101 posted 09/13/06 11:56pm

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darkstranger521 said:

Harlepolis said:



shrug

Yep, he got his own style, alright. His own style of snatching up,,,,and apparently, he was good at it.

Look, more power to whoever digs him(for the SAME reason folks dig Justin Temberfake).

EVERYBODY knows the real deal, some except it and some block it out. All fine by me.


See, some people don't get Elvis (whether you like him or not is not germaine, but I think "getting" him is) because they simply don't understand America. The South has only been segregated in the last 100+ years. When we think of the Civil Rights movement and the different water fountains and all that shit, that only happened post-Reconstruction. Things were extremely fucked up PRIOR to Reconstruction - do NOT misunderstand me - but they were not SEGREGATED to anywhere NEAR the extent that they were say from the 1880s onward. In the Northern United States, however, things were racially segregated just about from DAY ONE. The North was never really NOT segregated. In fact, despite everything you've ever heard about segreation and the South, the real truth is that the North has experienced far more segregation and racial separation historically than has the South. And you must understand this to understand Elvis.

Blacks and whites in the South - far, far more than blacks and whites in the North - have always had what could not unreasonably be called a common southern culture. Elvis was a bonafide true blue part of this culture. As was James Brown. When James Brown called Elvis his brother, he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about, and implying James was a token for embracing Elvis in this familial way is something you might wish to think about before doing again publicly. In Elvis' day you could find lily white churches in the Mississippi Delta as off-the-chain sanctified as any black church because sanctified holy-roller churches are a Southern thing. They are not a black thing. A northerner, such as lifelong New Yorker Chuck D, CANNOT understand such a thing. To him and those who think like him cultural commonalities between black and white Southerners can only = theft. But it is absolutlely not theft. It is a common culture. And Chuck thinks this way not because he lacks intelligence but because he lacks perspective. As a New Yorker, the nuances of Southern life and Southern history are simply outside of his reality. But they are very real. And believe me when I tell you that Southerners like B.B. King and James Brown, they sure as fuck understand the deal and when they praise Elvis to the high heavens they damn sure ain't tommin'. The South might as well be a different country from the North. Despite the slavery and segregation and all that went down in the South, blacks and whites are still more like family in how they commonly relate to the world there than anywhere else in America. That is a cultural fact. Elvis is the proof. Now I realize this fact annoys some people to no end, because some people want life to be simple when like it or not its always complex.


All of that is peach on cream. I got stinged by racism in my own home(New York) where Jim Crow is "supposedly" doesn't have a room to show, just like EVERY black woman who lives in the north.

I know better than to ring the "North is better than the south" discussion.

BUT

I also know that I shouldn't swollow what everybody says and write it in my notebook like it may come in handy.

Its not that Chuck(or people like me) lack perspective. We just DON'T relate, thats it. As simple and plain as the bum on the street.

Folks say Benny Goodman is the KING OF SWING(Dismissing The Duke, Fletcher Hendrson, Earl Hines and Louis Armestrong) and Elvis is the KING OF ROCK N' ROLL(Dismissing Chuck, Little Richard, Ike Turner, Louis Jordan, Jackie Wilson,,,and the rest of them).

Now lol who do you think lack perspective? lol
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Reply #102 posted 09/14/06 10:44am

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Harlepolis said:

darkstranger521 said:



See, some people don't get Elvis (whether you like him or not is not germaine, but I think "getting" him is) because they simply don't understand America. The South has only been segregated in the last 100+ years. When we think of the Civil Rights movement and the different water fountains and all that shit, that only happened post-Reconstruction. Things were extremely fucked up PRIOR to Reconstruction - do NOT misunderstand me - but they were not SEGREGATED to anywhere NEAR the extent that they were say from the 1880s onward. In the Northern United States, however, things were racially segregated just about from DAY ONE. The North was never really NOT segregated. In fact, despite everything you've ever heard about segreation and the South, the real truth is that the North has experienced far more segregation and racial separation historically than has the South. And you must understand this to understand Elvis.

Blacks and whites in the South - far, far more than blacks and whites in the North - have always had what could not unreasonably be called a common southern culture. Elvis was a bonafide true blue part of this culture. As was James Brown. When James Brown called Elvis his brother, he knew EXACTLY what he was talking about, and implying James was a token for embracing Elvis in this familial way is something you might wish to think about before doing again publicly. In Elvis' day you could find lily white churches in the Mississippi Delta as off-the-chain sanctified as any black church because sanctified holy-roller churches are a Southern thing. They are not a black thing. A northerner, such as lifelong New Yorker Chuck D, CANNOT understand such a thing. To him and those who think like him cultural commonalities between black and white Southerners can only = theft. But it is absolutlely not theft. It is a common culture. And Chuck thinks this way not because he lacks intelligence but because he lacks perspective. As a New Yorker, the nuances of Southern life and Southern history are simply outside of his reality. But they are very real. And believe me when I tell you that Southerners like B.B. King and James Brown, they sure as fuck understand the deal and when they praise Elvis to the high heavens they damn sure ain't tommin'. The South might as well be a different country from the North. Despite the slavery and segregation and all that went down in the South, blacks and whites are still more like family in how they commonly relate to the world there than anywhere else in America. That is a cultural fact. Elvis is the proof. Now I realize this fact annoys some people to no end, because some people want life to be simple when like it or not its always complex.


All of that is peach on cream. I got stinged by racism in my own home(New York) where Jim Crow is "supposedly" doesn't have a room to show, just like EVERY black woman who lives in the north.

I know better than to ring the "North is better than the south" discussion.

BUT

I also know that I shouldn't swollow what everybody says and write it in my notebook like it may come in handy.

Its not that Chuck(or people like me) lack perspective. We just DON'T relate, thats it. As simple and plain as the bum on the street.

Folks say Benny Goodman is the KING OF SWING(Dismissing The Duke, Fletcher Hendrson, Earl Hines and Louis Armestrong) and Elvis is the KING OF ROCK N' ROLL(Dismissing Chuck, Little Richard, Ike Turner, Louis Jordan, Jackie Wilson,,,and the rest of them).

Now lol who do you think lack perspective? lol


Benny Goodman is analogous to Elvis in that he was the foremost white popularizer of a predominantly black musical form but he was still a great musician and bandleader and a lot of the most innovative musicians of the time got their start with him: Gene Krupa, Teddy Wilson, Lionel Hampton, Charlie Christian specifically.

Incidentally, perhaps you're familiar with the famous friendly cutting contest between Benny Goodman and Chick Webb's bands at The Savoy where Benny's guys roundly admitted to have been shredded to ribbons (nearly Gene Krupas exact words specifically in reference to Chick outdoing him on the skins) by Chick, who many people in Harlem called "the REAL king of swing".
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Reply #103 posted 09/14/06 10:56am

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Folks say Benny Goodman is the KING OF SWING(Dismissing The Duke, Fletcher Hendrson, Earl Hines and Louis Armestrong) and Elvis is the KING OF ROCK N' ROLL(Dismissing Chuck, Little Richard, Ike Turner, Louis Jordan, Jackie Wilson,,,and the rest of them).



if they didn't call them that would you still have a problem with them for playing that kind of music?
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Reply #104 posted 09/14/06 11:36am

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NDRU said:

Harlepolis said:



Folks say Benny Goodman is the KING OF SWING(Dismissing The Duke, Fletcher Hendrson, Earl Hines and Louis Armestrong) and Elvis is the KING OF ROCK N' ROLL(Dismissing Chuck, Little Richard, Ike Turner, Louis Jordan, Jackie Wilson,,,and the rest of them).



if they didn't call them that would you still have a problem with them for playing that kind of music?


LOL I don' have a problem with them, regardless. Why the hell should I bother? Like I said, I already know who came up an gloryfied "that kind of music".

However, I DO have a problem that 'some' people shove their misrepresentations down others throats and demanding them to except these misrepresentations(Or should I say, these interpretations, respectively).
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Reply #105 posted 09/14/06 11:39am

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Incidentally, perhaps you're familiar with the famous friendly cutting contest between Benny Goodman and Chick Webb's bands at The Savoy where Benny's guys roundly admitted to have been shredded to ribbons (nearly Gene Krupas exact words specifically in reference to Chick outdoing him on the skins) by Chick, who many people in Harlem called "the REAL king of swing".


nod

I'm also fimiliar with the NEVER DATED debate about his battle with Count Basie.

Jazz purists to this very day argue about who won that night.
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Reply #106 posted 09/14/06 11:44am

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I don't know that much about Elvis but his song "You ain't nothing but a hounddog" is pretty deep. It makes me want to listen more closely to his songs, because there seems to be a substance as oppose to doing something with a great "popular" beat for the the time.
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Reply #107 posted 09/14/06 11:58am

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I don't know that much about Elvis but his song "You ain't nothing but a hounddog" is pretty deep. It makes me want to listen more closely to his songs, because there seems to be a substance as oppose to doing something with a great "popular" beat for the the time.


Funny you should mention that. I like Elvis just fine, but that's one song I could see people having a problem with. It sounds good, rocks just fine, but the lyrics are mixed up.

It was sung by a woman previously, and her lyrics comparing the man to a dog "sniffin round" make a lot more sense than a man singing it. The way Elvis does it kind of makes no sense.
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Reply #108 posted 09/14/06 1:35pm

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LOL I don' have a problem with them, regardless. Why the hell should I bother? Like I said, I already know who came up an gloryfied "that kind of music".

However, I DO have a problem that 'some' people shove their misrepresentations down others throats and demanding them to except these misrepresentations(Or should I say, these interpretations, respectively).






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Reply #109 posted 09/14/06 2:02pm

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I sense a bit of Elvis envy here.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #110 posted 09/14/06 2:18pm

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Reply #111 posted 09/14/06 2:42pm

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morningsong said:

I don't know that much about Elvis but his song "You ain't nothing but a hounddog" is pretty deep. It makes me want to listen more closely to his songs, because there seems to be a substance as oppose to doing something with a great "popular" beat for the the time.


U do realize that that song is a COVER don't u?
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Reply #112 posted 09/14/06 5:36pm

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Did Elvis really know what he was singing about half the time?

I mean, look at the lyrics of 'Jailhouse Rock'... It appears to be about male prisoners fucking each other.

The warden threw a party in the county jail.
The prison band was there and they began to wail.
The band was jumpin and the joint began to swing.
You shouldve heard those knocked out jailbirds sing.
Lets rock, everybody, lets rock.
Everybody in the whole cell block
Was dancin to the jailhouse rock.

Spider murphy played the tenor saxophone,
Little joe was blowin on the slide trombone.
The drummer boy from illinois went crash, boom, bang,
The whole rhythm section was the purple gang.
Lets rock, everybody, lets rock.
Everybody in the whole cell block
Was dancin to the jailhouse rock.

Number forty-seven said to number three:
Youre the cutest jailbird I ever did see.
I sure would be delighted with your company,
Come on and do the jailhouse rock with me.

Lets rock, everybody, lets rock.
Everybody in the whole cell block
Was dancin to the jailhouse rock.

The sad sack was a sittin on a block of stone
Way over in the corner weepin all alone.
The warden said, hey, buddy, dont you be no square.
If you cant find a partner use a wooden chair.

Lets rock, everybody, lets rock.
Everybody in the whole cell block
Was dancin to the jailhouse rock.

Shifty henry said to bugs, for heavens sake,
No ones lookin, nows our chance to make a break.
Bugsy turned to shifty and he said, nix nix,
I wanna stick around a while and get my kicks.
Lets rock, everybody, lets rock.
Everybody in the whole cell block
Was dancin to the jailhouse rock.
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Reply #113 posted 09/14/06 5:58pm

pezdispenser

Elvis was an imitator, a way of making black music marketable by facing it up through a white guy. Like Eminem.

If you want to listen to Elvis, go listen to Otis Blackwell - he wrote all of his songs, and songs for Little Richard.

The greatest story I've heard, is that Otis Blackwell wrote and recorded these songs, and Elvis pretty much just Karaoke'd over the musicians. Even Otis' vocals inflect Elvis-like. Then when Elvis was huge, Otis put his album out, and got slammed for "sounding too much like Elvis"!!!!

I think he ended up a quadroplegic or something. It's a bit sad. He wrote Fever, Return to Sender, Great Balls Of Fire, etc. You'd know 'em all - and his versions sound MUCH MUCH better than any other artists versions.
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Reply #114 posted 09/14/06 7:29pm

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Nobody should ever be declared king.
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Reply #115 posted 09/14/06 7:42pm

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I never thought he was "all that" as an entertainer but I do like a few of his songs, especially...

I'm just a hunka hunka burnin' love.... lol

He was a good looking motherfucker in his younger years. He should have never wore that damn jumpsuit when he gained weight though. A large person should never wear all white and especially not a jumpsuit to accent that flat ass. lol
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Reply #116 posted 09/14/06 7:48pm

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Elvis was an incredible singer and entertainer. I know there are a lot of people around here with a chip on their shoulders about calling him the "King of Rock & Roll" but if it weren't for Elvis, we wouldn't be sitting on this site talking about Prince. Or 99% of the other acts that are discussed and putting out popular music today. He turned an underground fad for kids to dance to and turned it into a lifestyle and the definitive artistic avenue of the 20th century.
"I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you."
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Reply #117 posted 09/14/06 8:36pm

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NDRU said:

Nobody should ever be declared king.
[Edited 9/14/06 19:31pm]


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Reply #118 posted 09/14/06 8:49pm

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pezdispenser said:

Elvis was an imitator, a way of making black music marketable by facing it up through a white guy. Like Eminem.

If you want to listen to Elvis, go listen to Otis Blackwell - he wrote all of his songs, and songs for Little Richard.

The greatest story I've heard, is that Otis Blackwell wrote and recorded these songs, and Elvis pretty much just Karaoke'd over the musicians. Even Otis' vocals inflect Elvis-like. Then when Elvis was huge, Otis put his album out, and got slammed for "sounding too much like Elvis"!!!!

I think he ended up a quadroplegic or something. It's a bit sad. He wrote Fever, Return to Sender, Great Balls Of Fire, etc. You'd know 'em all - and his versions sound MUCH MUCH better than any other artists versions.


Thanks I NEVER knew that.
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Reply #119 posted 09/14/06 10:06pm

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pezdispenser said:

Elvis was an imitator, a way of making black music marketable by facing it up through a white guy. Like Eminem.

If you want to listen to Elvis, go listen to Otis Blackwell - he wrote all of his songs, and songs for Little Richard.

The greatest story I've heard, is that Otis Blackwell wrote and recorded these songs, and Elvis pretty much just Karaoke'd over the musicians. Even Otis' vocals inflect Elvis-like. Then when Elvis was huge, Otis put his album out, and got slammed for "sounding too much like Elvis"!!!!

I think he ended up a quadroplegic or something. It's a bit sad. He wrote Fever, Return to Sender, Great Balls Of Fire, etc. You'd know 'em all - and his versions sound MUCH MUCH better than any other artists versions.


Otis Blackwell also wrote great balls of fire. Very underappreciated man in rock history.

Problem is I can't find any good compilations, or hell any material of his, I just know his reputation sad
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