Number23 said:

omg

Number23 said:

You're jumping outta here already

skywalker said:

I second that.....

I have respect for folks like him and also Joni Mitchell and Neil Young. They are at least real musicians and good at doing songwriting and performing. And they put their heart and soul of doing what they love best.

But their music isn't my taste of flavor though.

skywalker said:

Patronizing people don't.

Thats the main problem of this board, some people here seem to have a problem when others support a different view. They take themselves a lil' too seriously.

So much for internet fun

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I think it's like you said earlier, it's the strength of his writing--he made the Pop Song grow up. Actually, the fact that he was a singer/songwriter/musician and poet, at a time when most pop artists didn't even sing or write their own songs, made him stand out. While he managed to be a voice of protest, sounding on politics and making other social commentary, he also incorporated many literary influences in his writing...I think he basically kicked open the gates to broaden what performers could be and do, as well as being the hero of the 60's counter-culture....before him, most pop songs of the time were limited to that "I'm A Fool For Ya, Baby" type of songwriting...and of course, his odd voice kind of broke a barrier in a sense, the idea that only great singers could get up and sing, and tell stories...that, along with his writing, certainly inspired Hendrix in his own writing and singing...Bob even rebelled against his own 'Folk Singer Icon' image when he "went electric", earning him the ire of most of his folk fans....

...that being said, Dylan's definititely not everyone's cup of tea...like you, I respect him more than I actually enjoy him as an artist, though I do love some of his songs (And I agree, I know a lot of people that like other people doing Dylan's stuff more than Dylan himself)...and that voice certainly doesn't work out of context, remember the 'We Are The World' single, When Dylan "sings" that line, "It's true we make a brighter day....", and so many people thought it was Eddie Murphy doing Buckwheat?




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He just writes great songs, great lyrics.

OOPs!
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Number23 said:

i'm going to tattoo this all over my body.

Anx said:

I already got mine done.

minneapolisgenius said:

Pics?

calldapplwondery83 said:

Next week.

I heard Prince isn't much into him either.

2freaky4church1 said:

bowie loves him.

2freaky4church1 said:

Yeah, well I bet we can guess why. Prince doesn't enjoy anyone outdoing him and Bob certainly out does him in the writing department. Besides, they are both from Minn and we all know there can be only one Prince!!

Anx said:

I believe many people in the industry love Bob. One has to remember how long Bob's been around. His body of work is highly respected by many other musicians (so I've read).

http://www.amazon.com/Lov...F8&s=music

Now tell me with a straight face that this isnt great music.

2freaky4church1 said:

That's not great music

kisscamille said:

Bob disrespects my EARS.

Graycap23 said:

Oh well, too bad for you. Bob makes love to my ears

As a songwriter and a poet I completely respect him and I can even tolerate his "James Brown" approach to the English language. To fully appreciate Dylan you have to go back to the beginning and see what he brought to the table, the era and everything. If you studied anything of the Beat Generation and you enjoyed the writings of those guys, then Dylan you can fully appreciate Bob.

Interesting fact: How many of you know that Bob had a relationship with a black woman and they had a son? I was surprised that not many people knew this and I even had a few hardcore Dylan fans who argued me vehemently when I told them this. Of course, I met her and her son and the young man was definitely a spitting image of young Bob when I met him. There were photos around their house of them together and I even found a book about Dylan that had a picture of her when she was younger. The son was even a musician. I lost touch with him so unfortunately, I don't know what he's up to these days.

LQ

You may never get him, no matter what anyone says here, but I think you already do to some extent if you like his songs being sung by other people. Liking his songs is enough for me.

As far as singing, I think he's part of that school that tries to sing the words as much as (if not more than) the melody. Like Frank Sinatra to the N'th degree.

Pat Boone ruined many rock & roll songs, despite having a pretty voice; Dylan is at the other end of the spectrum. His singing has all the emotion & personality, less of the pure musical nature of a Johnny Mathis.

He's a bit like Miles Davis, sometimes not aesthetically pleasing, but stylish and real, and very cool.

And some stuff he sang pretty, like Lay Lady Lay, and the rest of Nashville Skyline.

skywalker said:

I think you've answered your own question.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

A great song writer and a person who makes great music are not always the same right? Again, I just can get into Dylan.

skywalker said:

I think writing a great song is definitely making great music, but you mean you don't get into him as a performer, right?

Why are you trying to get into him if his music doesn't appeal to you? Either you like his music or not. There's nothing wrong with you whether you like it or not, just buy the type of music you like.



Same here. He bores the living hell out of me. He sounds like a dying cow. However, I won't talk about him like a dog because I do respect him since he's an artist that actually sings and plays.....even though it's not the type of stuff I like. Now, shit hop on the other hand is a different story. I have no problem talking about those no talent bastards like a mangy stray dog.
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vainandy said:

Depends on the person. Nothing wrong with not liking it, like you say, but it used to bother me when I didn't understand why certain people were legends. I didn't get Dylan or Miles, but I trusted they were great, and I kept listening to them until I understood.

There's not really anyone like that for me anymore because I forced myself to understand what their appeal was--even stuff I don't care for. That's just my neurosis.

It never bothered me at all. Like Bob Dylan, for instance, he sounds like folk music to me and I don't like folk music period...even when Prince does it. However, I can totally understand someone that loves folk music seeing Bob Dylan as a legend because they like that type of music and he probably does it very well.