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Thread started 09/02/06 4:52pm

prettymansson

*ATTENTION Sly Stone & Carlos Santana fans !!!

Hello you guys...and purple ladies... biggrin
I have just finished reading an Incredible book..Its called "Space between the stars"
It was written by Carlos Santana' wife Deborah Santana..Its an amazing look about her life as the daughter of a famous guitarist..and the girlfriend of Sly Stone and the Wife of Carlos Santana..Its filled with juicy stories that Any fan of these two great artist would Love !!! highlights:

SLY (pages 36-112) !!!
: Losing her virginity to Sly..
: Sharing the details behind his crazy drug filled life between 1969-1971
: her discussing how he was a former pimp..& his daily routines/activity's
: Sharing stories about the times he beat her up and called her a Bitch to impress friends
: Sharing the Horrible details of the abortion Sly made her have with a coat hanger...!!!
: How Sly got her hooked on Drugs

Carlos:
:How they met and how they both decided to join a religion together to escape from the world of Drugs and Rock and roll that they both experienced..
: How to they have stayed together and the various ups and downs of balancing spirituality and Rock and Roll...
She is a Very intelligent and classy woman..and I found this book to be honest, & Very REAL !!!
We all know how difficult it is to find good Sly info ..This Book has painted a picture of him that makes it really EZ for me to see why His career Sunk the way it did ...
Get it !!! Its good.


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Reply #1 posted 09/02/06 7:51pm

funkpill

cool

Will do!!! thumbs up!


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Reply #2 posted 09/02/06 11:34pm

FuNkeNsteiN

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prettymansson said:

Sharing the Horrible details of the abortion Sly made her have with a coat hanger...!!!

eek
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Reply #3 posted 09/03/06 3:44am

calldapplwonde
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Shit no, I won't read this. I want my Sly do be a human being.
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Reply #4 posted 09/03/06 4:24am

mikek1

I've read some of it.

Sly was/is a mean motherfucker; alot worse than Prince and other entertainers.
I didn't read the details of the abortion; plz tell.

Maybe that's partialy the reason for Larry Gayham converting to the JW cult; he was doing crazy shit with sly and wanted to make up fro his sins.( i read sly and the family stone did alot of shit on the road; drugs, groupies)

I've been reading alot recently including bios/autobios and i'm shocked and disgusted at the behaviour of many entertainers i respected.

I mean who would of though John lennon was abusive and violent to men and women; allegedly beating a man to near death with a SHOVEL!

Miles davis is another sick bastard, so was Hendrix; both extremely violent to women without provocation.
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Reply #5 posted 09/03/06 4:49am

Mong

Miles had a lot of issues, mainly to do with his bisexuality.
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Reply #6 posted 09/03/06 5:15am

SPYZFAN1

Thanks. I'll definetly check this book out. Sly was bisexual too. I remember reading that in Jet magazine. He admitted it and said it was "personal battle within himself".
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Reply #7 posted 09/03/06 6:37am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Thanks. I'll definetly check this book out. Sly was bisexual too. I remember reading that in Jet magazine. He admitted it and said it was "personal battle within himself".

eek eek eek news to me..
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Reply #8 posted 09/03/06 8:37am

rainman1985

Tell me more about Lennon. I only recently found out he hit women but beating a dude with a shovel?! Didn't know Miles was bisexual. What was Jimi's record with women like?
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Reply #9 posted 09/03/06 8:42am

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mikek1 said:

I've read some of it.

Sly was/is a mean motherfucker; alot worse than Prince and other entertainers.
I didn't read the details of the abortion; plz tell.


please don't. that's the most horrible thing I've heard in a while...
pull your cell phone out and call your next of kin; we're about to get funky
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Reply #10 posted 09/03/06 8:53am

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emmi said:

mikek1 said:

I've read some of it.

Sly was/is a mean motherfucker; alot worse than Prince and other entertainers.
I didn't read the details of the abortion; plz tell.


please don't. that's the most horrible thing I've heard in a while...

Aye
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Reply #11 posted 09/03/06 10:22am

mikek1

rainman1985 said:

Tell me more about Lennon. I only recently found out he hit women but beating a dude with a shovel?! Didn't know Miles was bisexual. What was Jimi's record with women like?


Go to amazon.com, sign up and read parts of The lives of lennon; SHOCKING!

Hendrix was horrificly violent
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jimi beat the mother of his first child with a belt while she was pregnant!

Jimi twice smashed a vodka bottle in his girlfriend carmen's face; she had to go to emergency room on both occasions. The first time the docs thought she was gonna lose her eye!

He beat kathy with a phone becuase he thought she was ringing a guy!

He also kicked kathy in the face; fracturing her nose in three places while she lay on the ground beaten and bruised.
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Reply #12 posted 09/03/06 10:33am

calldapplwonde
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The problem with such stories are always that they may heavily influence your perception of someone, without bein able to KNOW that they are true.
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Reply #13 posted 09/03/06 10:52am

mikek1

calldapplwondery83 said:

The problem with such stories are always that they may heavily influence your perception of someone, without bein able to KNOW that they are true.


I would only post what i know to be true; based on credible eyewtitness accounts from multiple independant sources!
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Reply #14 posted 09/03/06 1:32pm

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mikek1 said:

rainman1985 said:

Tell me more about Lennon. I only recently found out he hit women but beating a dude with a shovel?! Didn't know Miles was bisexual. What was Jimi's record with women like?


Go to amazon.com, sign up and read parts of The lives of lennon; SHOCKING!

Hendrix was horrificly violent
;
jimi beat the mother of his first child with a belt while she was pregnant!

Jimi twice smashed a vodka bottle in his girlfriend carmen's face; she had to go to emergency room on both occasions. The first time the docs thought she was gonna lose her eye!

He beat kathy with a phone becuase he thought she was ringing a guy!

He also kicked kathy in the face; fracturing her nose in three places while she lay on the ground beaten and bruised.


I just finished reading room full of mirrors 2 weeks ago...I already knew the jimi stories...its SAD ...But people were pretty fucked up then on all kinds of crap... neutral
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Reply #15 posted 09/03/06 11:06pm

funkpill

SPYZFAN1 said:

Thanks. I'll definetly check this book out. Sly was bisexual too. I remember reading that in Jet magazine. He admitted it and said it was "personal battle within himself".



GET OUTTA HEAH!!! eek
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Reply #16 posted 09/03/06 11:18pm

SteamForest

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I've read alot of info about Miles and I've never heard he was bisexual....AT ALL.
I will do today what you won't, so tomorrow I can do what you can't.
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Reply #17 posted 09/04/06 4:58am

Miles

Miles Davis being bisexual is rumoured only. Never been confirmed. Though his younger brother was/ is known to be homosexual, according to books I have read.
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Reply #18 posted 09/04/06 5:03am

mikek1

prettymansson said:

mikek1 said:



Go to amazon.com, sign up and read parts of The lives of lennon; SHOCKING!

Hendrix was horrificly violent
;
jimi beat the mother of his first child with a belt while she was pregnant!

Jimi twice smashed a vodka bottle in his girlfriend carmen's face; she had to go to emergency room on both occasions. The first time the docs thought she was gonna lose her eye!

He beat kathy with a phone becuase he thought she was ringing a guy!

He also kicked kathy in the face; fracturing her nose in three places while she lay on the ground beaten and bruised.


I just finished reading room full of mirrors 2 weeks ago...I already knew the jimi stories...its SAD ...But people were pretty fucked up then on all kinds of crap... neutral
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Jimi beat women before he touched drugs! The belt incidenthappened when jimi was sombre. Drugs didn't make him violent; he as most violent when drunk.

Ethanol is more destructive than most drugs; FACT! However there still no excuse for what Hendrix did. I was dissapointed becuase i own dozens of Hendrix cds and thought he was a great guy. I can't help thinking about the violence when i listen to jimi; i wish i could still just appreciate the music sad sad sad
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Reply #19 posted 09/04/06 9:19am

prettymansson

mikek1 said:

prettymansson said:



I just finished reading room full of mirrors 2 weeks ago...I already knew the jimi stories...its SAD ...But people were pretty fucked up then on all kinds of crap... neutral
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Jimi beat women before he touched drugs! The belt incidenthappened when jimi was sombre. Drugs didn't make him violent; he as most violent when drunk.

Ethanol is more destructive than most drugs; FACT! However there still no excuse for what Hendrix did. I was dissapointed becuase i own dozens of Hendrix cds and thought he was a great guy. I can't help thinking about the violence when i listen to jimi; i wish i could still just appreciate the music sad sad sad


I agree and dont agree at the same time...I know what your saying about jimi who is my favorite artist...but i also have to look at the women in question..
a) the girl before jimi was famous...SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE !!!!! Pimps probably were beating the shit out of her weekly..
b) Kathy Etchingham..she freely admits in her book about jimi that she would see other men (including friends of his) when Jimi was away on tour...
3) Carmen barrera ...Who knows what her deal was..but she was cool with being in the "scene"... they shared drugs together..and she knew he would sometimes have up to 5 women at a time in his bed..while living with Devon wilson..sounds a bit unstable to me...?
Theres no forgiving what Jimi did, But I think it would 100% wrong to assume he was a Good guy in all ways... wink
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a) the girl before jimi was famous...SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE !!!!! Pimps probably were beating the shit out of her weekly..

...and that justifies Jimi's actions? Bitch, please...
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Reply #21 posted 09/04/06 9:44am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

prettymansson said:


a) the girl before jimi was famous...SHE WAS A PROSTITUTE !!!!! Pimps probably were beating the shit out of her weekly..

...and that justifies Jimi's actions? Bitch please lol



OKAY!!! all sorta wrong in that post.

disbelief
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Reply #22 posted 09/04/06 9:55am

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sosgemini said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


...and that justifies Jimi's actions? Bitch please lol



OKAY!!! all sorta wrong in that post.

disbelief

Thinking that because someone is a prostitute it's ok to beat them up is seriously fucked up.
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Reply #23 posted 09/04/06 11:01am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

sosgemini said:




OKAY!!! all sorta wrong in that post.

disbelief

Thinking that because someone is a prostitute it's ok to beat them up is seriously fucked up.


Funkenstein; i respect your opnions; i agree; your a cool mofo!
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Reply #24 posted 09/04/06 11:02am

FuNkeNsteiN

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mikek1 said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


Thinking that because someone is a prostitute it's ok to beat them up is seriously fucked up.


Funkenstein; i respect your opnions; i agree; your a cool mofo!

Ok, so I'm not sure if you're being serious or just sarcastic smile
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Reply #25 posted 09/04/06 11:56am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

mikek1 said:



Funkenstein; i respect your opnions; i agree; your a cool mofo!

Ok, so I'm not sure if you're being serious or just sarcastic smile
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Maybe next time you can read a whole post before you comment..I said the whole scene was messed up..the women and Jimi !!!!
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Reply #26 posted 09/04/06 12:22pm

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prettymansson said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


Ok, so I'm not sure if you're being serious or just sarcastic smile
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Maybe next time you can read a whole post before you comment..I said the whole scene was messed up..the women and Jimi !!!!

Yea, I read the lot later on, but didn't bother to edit biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 09/04/06 1:21pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

mikek1 said:



Funkenstein; i respect your opnions; i agree; your a cool mofo!

Ok, so I'm not sure if you're being serious or just sarcastic smile
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seriously cool
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Reply #28 posted 09/04/06 1:22pm

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mikek1 said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


Ok, so I'm not sure if you're being serious or just sarcastic smile
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seriously cool

Well alrighty then, mate Thank you.
... and yes, I'm a cool mofo cool
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Reply #29 posted 09/04/06 1:53pm

Mong

Miles said:

Miles Davis being bisexual is rumoured only. Never been confirmed. Though his younger brother was/ is known to be homosexual, according to books I have read.


You might want to check out Ian Carr's biography of Miles Davis. Ian Carr is a highly respected UK jazz musician whose book was thoroughly researched. He mentions Miles' bisexuality in it. Face it, he liked the dick and the pussy. smile
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