Ghetto Life is one of my fave Rick songs, I hate to hear someone fuck w/ it

Horrible..The Groove is weak if non existent

theghostoftonym said:

Correct....don't know how ironic or funny that is...I was a teen in the '80s...Dug Thriller era MJ, Prince and hip-hop...Most folks in their 30s and early 40s came up during hip-hop's '80s commercial heyday...

murph said:

Hip Hop's commercial heyday as you put it was in the 90's, during the 80's hip was still fighting for regular airplay.

I grew up in New York in the 80's where most of the hip hop music being played was comming from. Friday and Saturday nights for three hours a night were the only times hip hop artists got a shot at being heard.

I'm 35 and I loved hip hop until the late 90's when it switched to some bling bling shit with crappy beats and even worse hooks. There are some exceptions, but the majority of hip hop sucks right now.

Busta's album overall is good but he missed with Ghetto Life.

This song samples Rick James vocals (only) from the chorus of "Ghetto Life". The new beat underneath is at half the tempo of the original track. Who has heard it?

dseann said:

With me it's off and on...In the '90s there were some great albums...the past 5 years has been very uneven...But in the early to mid '90s there were some great moments (De La Soul Is Dead; The Chronic; Nas' illmatic; Outkast's Aquemini; Tribe Called Quest albums....ect..And yes, the majority of hip-hop is lackluster right now...
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vainandy said:

Again...you won't get me to start taking up for what passes as hip-hop nowadays...But what you are getting at is very extreme...It's the same thing that jazz lovers said about the funk as not being "real" music....I think it's a generational thing....I would love to see more kids pick up an instrument...But the lack of musicianship and "funk" has more to do with changing technology and music trends...There are some folks that paint hip-hop with one brush and hey, that's just the reality of the situation Vainandy...I can type out a list of hip-hop artist that transcend their genre...But there's no use because you've already made up your mind that folks like Nas, RUN DMC, Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, early Jay-Z, The Roots, Dr. Dre, early Fugees, ect, ect, are crap...I dig that...Just remember what the jazz heads said about the "funk..."
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murph said:

I've never heard about the jazz lovers bitching about funk. However, if they did, jazz is still around, funk isn't.

People love to throw a generational thing around to excuse horrible music these days. From the way I heard it, the older people in the 1950s were bitching about rock and roll, not because it wasn't "real music" but because they considered it the "devil's music". It was fast and made people gyrate their hips. Ain't no damn hip gyrating going on with hip hop because it's too damn slow.

The only thing the older people in those days have in common with the older people these days is they hated it because they consider the music "corrupt". Back then, they had a problem with nasty gyrating. Now people have a problem with profanity in the music. Well, I don't care about the cussing. As a matter of fact, I like cussing. However, if you're going to be "corrupt" by cussing, you still got to have something fast enough to be "currupt" and gyrate those hips. Hell, "corrupt" me all the way. This shit today is slow enough to waltz to.

I've had no problem changing with the times. I changed with disco to funk, then I changed with funk to house music, listening to rock inbetween all the way through. If something had come along after house music that was just as enjoyable and danceable, I wouldn't be bitching now. You can throw that "people also used to complain about music in the old days" line somewhere else because it doesn't apply to me at all. I complain for totally different reasons.
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murph said:

And rockers complained about disco. Some of them hated it for reasons I can totally understand. They hated it because they didn't like the way it sounded, it was outselling everything else, and it was a threat to rock as a whole. Then there were those that hated it for stupid reasons such as racism and homophobia.

My point is, these people weren't a bunch of "parents". Some truly hated disco's sound, the way I hate hip hop, and others hated it for silly reasons. Nevertheless, they put an end to disco (unfortunately) and rock remained. If the rock community can kill a good genre such as disco, then why can't the R&B community kill a shitty genre like hip hop? Something else (even if it isn't funk) needs to take over. A change is long, and I do mean looooong overdue. It's been fifteen years of nothing but midtempo hip hops and ballads. In other words, fifteen years of pure boredom. A new generation who has grown up with it and doesn't realize how boring as hell it is because it's all they have known in their entire lifetime. By the time I was fifteen, I had lived through several changing styles of music.

For the record, I used to like rap myself in the early 1980s when a lot of it was original music made from scratch and the tempo was faster than funk. As a matter of fact, a lot of the early rap was at disco tempo. There's nothing disco-like about rap nowadays, today's rap is at opera tempo. As I said before, we are going backwards, not forwards. So while these thugs are rapping about "bitch ass ho's", they need to realize they are rapping at a "bitch ass opera" tempo.
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TheBoyfromtheBand said:

Bustya rhymes too fast.