dammme said:

Well, wouldn't you know how the band's name was spelled if you were a fan, or even just a casual listener? It's like spelling Prince as Pronce or Jimi Hendrix as Jimmy.

minneapolisgenius said:

Because I am not English native speaker I use to spell P R I C E instead of Prince. But I am fan indeed.

dammme said:

Ok, well you're excused then. That's a very good reason.

I think I yelled at you one other time about this very thing a long time ago. My apologies.

The reason I brought it up and that I've found that it's a VERY common mistake (the misspelling Zeppelin thing) among people who don't really know anything about the band except "Stairway to Heaven" or something like that. Then they say how they "suck" and all that, when they really don't have anything to even base it on because they don't know their music anyway.

Because their music is just not as good.

minneapolisgenius said:

Good point. Queen was a great live band and songs like Radio Ga Ga are tolerable. I would say Freddie is a better frontman (vocally, no argument) than Mick or Robert, though there's no one like Mick.

lilgish said:

Which post did you quote me on? It's all blank.

2freaky4church1 said:

So says the music expert...

No, Queen are too overdramatic, too kitshy, they seem like comic book music, not legit rock.

2freaky4church1 said:

BLASPHEMY!!!

Natisse said:

Don't worry Natisse!

Americans don't know nothing about good music...it's like their politics and their president!

From what I recall reading and my brief flirtations with Queen albums , they were very much a singles act , in that I mean their albums were never as good as youd expect them to be judging by the singles they released from them .
Saying that I do think their singles are as well-known in the UK as the likes of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones , and as someone else said to everyones disdain , Led Zeppelin did only make a few songs that mattered hehe , their music really isnt that well-known outside their rabid fanbase , apart from Whole Lotta Love and Stairway To Heaven their back catalogue remains a mystery to most non-fans .

moonshine said:

I used to think the same thing (about them being a singles act), but when you listen to their earlier work(Queen,A Night at The Opera, et al.), they combined elements of glam and heavy metal (and to a lesser extent punk) to create some pretty enjoyable albums. Some of their work did get cheesy, but as one poster pointed out, the 1980's had many musical mishaps.

I will plead ignorance to the Led Zeppelin catalogue. I like some songs, but wouldn't know where to start with albums(help please).

Man, I love me some Queen, I just brought sheer heart attack, and my favorite song on their is Flick of the Wrisk!!! GREAT SONG!!!! I also like Stone cold crazy, and misfire, and bring back that leroy brown!!!






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SoulAlive said:

Ahhhhh man, how did I forget Another one bites the dust!!!! I was playing

their greatest hits when my relatives came over, and they were wondering what

the heck I was listening too, and I was like, Queen, and they were like, oh,

that group that sang Another one bites the dust?? I'm black, and in the black

community, thats pretty much the only song they know them for...lol, well, We

will rock you, also. Their bass player John Deacon wrote AOBTD...the

most 'soulful' member of the group, lol


Crazy little thing called love WAS their biggest US hit, if I'm not mistaken??? I cant believe they only made ONE appearance on American television...on Saturday night live in 1982???? I was like, they were never on American Bandstand, or something like that?? (not counting their recent American Idol appearance)But the song their best know for is Bohemian Rhapsody, surprised that it wasnt a US hit...really deep song!!!



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Another note: To me, their whole hotspace album sounds like a prince album!!!!!Damn, its bright!!!!!



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moonshine said:

Oh please. You could say that about any artist though. Their songs only "matter" to their fans. That's like saying that Prince only made three songs that matter: When Doves Cry, Little Red Corvette, and Purple Rain.

If by using the term "matter" I suppose you mean in terms of the top-40 listening, no music collecting, general public who really don't want to or care to dig deeper. You can't possibly say that their music didn't matter in terms of their place in music history, production, and influence. They're one of the most influential bands of all-time, and that is something that's not even debatable. For you to say otherwise, just shows ignorance to that fact. I think people really DON'T realize their importance and influence and have that same attitude as you because they aren't aware that they in fact did have more than 3 songs. They didn't release singles you know.
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Early Queen were cool, but their albums are very hit and miss.

There's maybe only half a dozen tracks of theirs beyond 1980 that I actually like... but they continued to sell millions.

But then so did Dire Straits and Genesis. Must be a Dad thing.

minneapolisgenius said:

They never released singles? I don't know their catalogue very well. All i know is that Jimmy Page and I share the same birth date (January 9). ANy idea where to start with their music.

COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:

They always refused the idea of releasing singles because they wanted people to hear their albums as a while, rather than just one track off of it. Also, because the radio stations always wanted to edit the songs down to a much shorter version of the original. I think that was their main problem with the whole single format. They had it written into their contract that no singles would be released, but I think eventually Atlantic found a way around.

They were under a lot of pressure from the record label to record single versions of their songs to release so that the radio could play them, but they refused for many of their songs. Radio stations began editing songs themselves (like taking the whole middle out of Whole Lotta Love) which Page hated. It wasn't their doing though and they never intended for them to be played that way.

They never released singles in the U.K. I believe but I think they eventually ended up releasing some singles around Europe and Japan and in the U.S. after a while.

This article talks in length about whole singles thing: (I couldn't be bothered to type it all up in my own words and it's really quite confusing actually )

http://www.billboard.com/...1001958760

If you don't have anything by them yet, I would grab Led Zeppelin II, which is really just an extension of Zeppelin I, but better IMO. Definitely pick up Zeppelin IV, or as it's also called, the 4 symbols album. (there is no offical title for it. The cover is blank)






Cool B-day though.

minneapolisgenius said:

Thanks for the info. I like what they were trying to accomplish by the no singles notion. Allows for the album to grow on you.

When I do here their work on classic rock stations, its usually their standards. I like their sound (it's darker/heavier/more blues than most of the rock around that time), but I was always partial (good/bad) to the glam rock period in rock music (Bowie, TRex, Queen).

I might purchase one of their CD's today as soon as the tropical storm passes through.

COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:

Don't let that tropical storm stop you!

And you're welcome. Funny, I was the other way around: I got into Zeppelin first, and then into Bowie and T.Rex and other glam bands. I do love all of them though and I think I actually listen to Bowie more than Zeppelin, as hard as that may be to believe for most orgers who know me. What's what's cool about Zeppelin though (to me anyway) is that they had a much more melodic, experimental side to them that most people don't really know if they only know the radio hits.

minneapolisgenius said:

Im sure you've got 6 or 7 copies of last months Rolling Stone. I think IV is my next purchase from them. Ive got Houses. It seems to be considered one of their lesser works, but I'm really diggin it.

unkemptpueblo said:

sextonseven sent me his copy of Rolling Stone which was very sweet of him. I hate RS and I would have had to break down and buy it otherwise. They give every single album I've noticed. Doesn't matter who it is, they get three stars. Wow, that's some tough critiquing going on there.

I love Houses too. Not a favorite for most people, but it does have The Rain Song on it which is one of my favorite Zeppelin tunes. Oh, and The Song Remains the Same and No Quarter.

IV is great, but it's actually not my personal favorite. Probably because it has Black Dog, Rock n Roll, and Stairway to Heaven on it which are all way overplayed on the radio, so I'm kind of burnt out on those songs. But it's worth it for all the other songs on it.

Cloudbuster said:

I don't like the 1980s output as much either. But the thing is, many of those songs actually sound good live, while they're crap in the studio.
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I'm not so sure that Queen weren't respected like the other famous bands.

They certainly broke through to the R&B community with Another One Bites The Dust. The bass riff is in the style of Benard Edwards of Chic.

Growing up in the 80's, their songs, "We are the Champions" & "We Will Rock You" were common song anthems for any scholastic or professional sports team. Quite an accomplishment for a band deemed as being "gay."

minneapolisgenius said:

lol, I knoooow led Zeppelin are hugely influential and important , thats why I made light of the comment ( see the hehe at the end ? ) . I've heard 2 of thier albums actually ( the one with STH on and some other one I can't recall ) but the fact that they didnt release singles probably backs up my comments that their music isnt really well-known outside of their fanbase . Relative to other acts like The Beatles and Rolling Stones ( who I dont own any albums of either , though I've heard a few ) their music is practically unknown , whereas I could sing a fair few dozen beatles songs without considering myself a proper "fan" per se .

waw2002 said:

They were fantastic live. No argument there.

moonshine said:

Obviously you don't know the Zeppelin mystique, but that's ok; the two cited usedto be played on Top 40 which the legions of Zep fans have grown to despise They prefer the album cuts like "Black Dog" (with one of the greatest riff intros of all time -- "Hey hey Mama, say the way you move..."), "Communication Break Breakdown" "Dazed & Confused", "What Is and What Should Never Be", "Over the Hills and Far Away", "Custard Pie" "The Crunge" (a salute to James Brown - "ican'tfindthatbridge"), "Dancing Days", "D'Yer Mak'er" (a reggae take pronounced Jamaica), "No Quarter" (a Hobbit/LOTR song like "The Battle of Evermore"), "In My time of Dying", "Kashmir" (sampled by PDiddy, "Trampled Underfoot" (funkiest thang they ever did)

Damn I swear I'm not a diehard Zeppelin fan, but they got shitloads of songs (without even counting blues covers).

Oh yea let's not forget "Rock & Roll" in the Cadillac Escalade commerical ("It's been a long time Since I rock and roll")

Queen is a very well respected band. I find that they do get their props. On of my fvae bands, definately.

moonshine said:

Zeppelin is Album rock, not pop radio singles. They almost single-handedly built the format. Did you know that to announce their first tour it came over FM rock stations? There wasn't much in print ads, but scads of folks were listening to get the announcements. An amazing media blitz from the underground. It's one of those things you had to be there to believe, but in this era of internet fan clubs and ezines it seems even more amazing.